I understand your point, but I think you're wrong.
If I am, it wouldn't be the first time;-)
The charade of the voting system can't be maintained without your help. It is not a charade worth continuing.
I think it would be far less of a charade with a voting system which had a possibility of not being a charade (IRV, Condorcet, etc) . Viable minor parties are the only way I see a possibility of that happening.
I respect your right to do so, but you will not convince me, under current conditions, to do so.
Do you have a suggestion as to what could actually change the current conditions enough to make you amenable to persuasion on this?
I haven't voted for evil since I became aware of the problem. My integrity is fine.
I didn't intend to imply otherwise. I have never voted for evil to the best of my knowledge.
secondly we dont rate the value of a human life by the ability or desire of another human to support that life.
Until it's actually a human life which can exist independently of it's host body it's a parasite. Your irrational belief that the rights of a nonentity trump the rights of a human beingdemonstrates you lack of even the maost basic common human decency.
Thirdly giving birth odes not mean raising a kid, there is this thing called adoption.
Great, hold a gun to a poor woman's head and demand that she go through massive trauma to satisfy your desire for revenge. Just wonderful.
Lastly I would tel you that I am all for programs like welfare, food stamps, section 8, money for day care and others to help women in this position.
Here's an idea. Pay for it yourself you fucking thief. I do not support your demand that I cough up to pay for more welfare leeches.
Refusing to hear my argument does not mean it does not exist.
I've heard your tired old nonsense arguments so many times I'm sick to death of them. Just becasue you have faith in some idiotic bullshit does not lend your argument any credence. I just have to look at the results of your sicko immoral beliefs.
What you call my nanny state tenancies is really the want to provide protection for human life and apply equal rights.
Children do not even have equal rights, let alone a bit of unwanted gook.
You may disagree with it being life or not and *that* is where our discussion should be it would prevent insults and vitriol.
No need. First, it ain't. Sorry if reality conflicts with your delusions. Secondly it's irrelevant anyhow. You are in no position to judge whether or not somebody you don't even know should be forced to go through so much trauma and end up in a situation where both the mother and the child who *you* forced into existence yet expect *me* to pay for are worse off. It's sickeningly immoral and downright evil.
Funny I did not think laws against manslaughter required a *huge* federal government.
Funny how you change the subject to something completely irrelevant. You want the government inside every woman's vagina. That demands a huge oppressive government your delusional faith notwithstanding.
You're an arrogant ass if you believe an unwanted kid is worth less than a wanted kid its freaking Nazi like.
Wow. I don't "beleive" anything. I know for a fact that neither I nor you are in any position to make decisions for people who we don't even know with no consideration at all of the reality. Sorry bud, I believe in personal liberty. You're the only one proposing totalitarian laws, so you're far farther along that dark road than I am. In fact the Nazis were avid supporters of the same policy that you are, so you are the only one with whom that comparison has any merit.
Who the hell are you to judge the worth of a kid based on the means of the parents the idea is despicable!
That you'd spout such a blatant lie is what's despicable. If you have to lie to back up your position, then it's not a good position. I am not in a position to make any such judgement. The only problem is that you are not either, yet you're demanding that that decision be taken away from the only person who is in that position and be given to you. That is the fundamental nature of your belief.
I feel awful for the woman and I think society should be there in every way to help her but murdering an unborn kid is not the answer.
Oh your position would be laughable if it wasn't so deeply sickening.
You believe that a woman is a murderer if she has an abortion. Therefore a woman who is prepared to do that wants to murder her own child. Your "solution" to this is to force her at gunpoint to raise a child who according to your own nonsensical belief she wants to murder. Wow, I love the total lack of anything approaching a moral coming out of you whack jobs. Force immoral m
I can put up a banner on one of my apartment buildings that says, "Not faggots allowed!" and while it would probably violate about a half dozen sign ordinances,
Most of the federal housing laws and such have been decided at a time when the court was run by the previous. It brought us separation of church and state, the right to kill unborn babies and all.
The Separation of Church and state is the single most radical defining concept of this nation. It is the rock upon which the entire ideal rests. Contrary to your extremist religious delusions that was not added later by "evul Liburalz" or any such thing. So, seriously if you have nothing but contempt for the fundamental basis of this nation, why don't you move to Saudi Arabia where they already live under your ideal system instead of trying to fuck up this one?
In the US, we've got the Second Amendment helping with that.
The fact that George W Bush and his entire administration don't have a pack of bullet holes where their faces used to be demonstrates the idiocy of that statement.
The vast majority (OK -- ALL) legendary voter fraud comes down to people registering in one place, and failing to un-register when they move elsewhere. Innocent, and normal stuff.
Wait, What?!? Wow, check out the Nixon/Kennedy election with special emphasis on Chicago "where even the dead vote early and often". I'm not dead, so I only vote here once. Who knows what crazy shit I'll vote for once I'm gone.
There's no denying that the current crop of Republicans are the worst group of corrupt, cowardly, treasonous, murderous thugs and liars in the history of our nation but when you delude yourself into believing that the Democrats haven't done their best at it and just not been good enough at being evil you make yourself look really fucking stupid.
Meanwhile DN viewers knew the administrations claims where highly dubious, years before the MSM woke up and realized they had been acting as loudspeaker for government propaganda.
You need to wake up if you think the MSM didn't know exactly what they were doing. It is, after all, exactly *what they do*.
This isn't in the American news because only the elite of the Bush-haters actually care about the story, and it's something to put on TV on slow news days. I can't wait until the day that this political charade comes back to bite a Democratic president in the ass. This partisan bullshit is exhausting.
Nobody is making you do it. You could stop at any time.
Yes, the firings were for political reasons, and you should be OK with that.
Thank you oh partisan hack douchebag. No, I should not under any circumstances be ok with the president deciding on how justice will be applied based on the criminal's political party.
That is the one of the most cowardly idiotic lines of bullshit I've ever heard.
That proviso was supposed to be used as a means to ensure that attorneys get appointed in a timely manner in the event of a disaster, but now it conveniently gets used to simply bypass the legislative branch at all times. That is an abuse of the intent of the law
Seriously, Dude, wake up. That was the intent of the law.
They sure tried. Just because they weren't as successful doesn't mean that they are blameless and perfect.
They failed for the simple reason that they are nowhere near as good as the Republicans at corruption. Absolutely not blameless or perfect.
Clinton, in particular, just didn't think big enough. The largest tax and government spending increases in U.S. history were his attempts at "greatness". Just because those records didn't last through Bush's first term doesn't mean they weren't records at the time.
Wrong!
Clinton didn't even come close to Reagan who was the worst since FDR. Damn, Dude, just Damn.
I'm also somewhat of a fan of McCain, one of the few to stand up to Bush regularly.
Whoa whoa whoa.
McCain stepped up on the torture issue and then caved. Other than that he's been pretty much Bush's lapdog after Bush beat him in the primaries in large part due to spreading lies about McCain's "black baby". We're talking about an ex POW being portrayed as a coward by a deserter and then kissing his ass.
And just look at his flip flop on that hate mongering douchebag Falwell. He has no integrity whatsoever.
Seriously, like him if you want to, but standing up to Bush?!? Twaddle.
I personally think we should not allow family members of prior presidents to run for president, which is how we got into the current mess in the first place.
Personally, I blame Ford's Folly.
By pardoning Nixon, he set the stage for some of the worst Presidents we've ever had. Had he had the integrity to do the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient thing then that would have sent the message that even the President is accountable. Instead, he sent the exact opposite message. Do you think for one second that Reagan and his pack of ghouls would have thought they could get away with setting up death squad training camps, training and funding terrorists (in particular the 9/11 terrorists. That atrocity is owned by Reagan), dealing drugs to buy weapons to give to terrorists? Had Nixon been made to pay for his crimes against this nation, then that pack of jackals would have known that they could very well get executed for those various treasonous acts, but instead they *knew* they were above the law. It's only gotten worse from there as each time the same shitbags Rummy, Cheney and on and on worked to outdo their previous crimes knowing for certain they were completely untouchable. It's because of the complete lack of any sort of responsibility, and while the Democrats are no prize the Republicans, ever since they completely rejected their stated platform by rejecting the last real Republican Barry Goldwater, in favor of the big government police state shithead Ronald Reagan have taken corruption and treason to unprecedented levels.
Well, doesn't that kind of show the 'importance' of your vote? Pick one of two horrible options, or one of the two will be forced upon you. I decline to participate in such a cheap charade. So should everyone else.
I'd encourage you to find a minor party candidate who you don't feel is evil and vote for them. I've voted in every election that I've been eligible for and I have never voted a major party candidate for president and almost never for Congress (Obama was a rare exception).
Now, I've never had a prayer of voting for the winner in a presidential race, but I still have my integrity and it doesn't require victory for me to win. 5% of the vote this time could make a huge difference the next time.
This would be where I part ways its all well and good to say "if you don't want one don't have one" but that is the same half @55 logic used by slave owners. Abortion is about human life and when it comes to protecting that is an absolute.
All you're doing is demonstrating your far less than half ass logical abilities.
So, rather than scaping a bit of gook out and then being able to make something out of herself and then in the future being able to properly raise a kid you in your great "morality" think that the proper course of action is to hold a gun to a woman's head and force her to have a kid that she can not afford who will then be raised in squalor and have almost no chance of ever having a decent life.
I'm just so glad that there are "reasonable" people like you who understand that there is no part of another person's life that you shouldn't stick nanny state government into. It's awesome how you know so much better than people who you don't even know what's best for them. It's great that you love big government so much that you support policies that can not exist without a huge and oppressive federal power.
Congratulations to you for doing what you can to make sure all of our problems get worse because you can't keep your nose out of utereses across the country.
The simple fact is that you can't have anti-abortion laws without a huge government. Your complete lack of any logical ability has you whining about nannny state government when your ilk are the largest proponents of it bar none. What you want can't happen any other way.
How about you grow up, pull your head out of your immoral ass and realise that your position can only make things worse and has no possibility of leading to any positive results. Oh yeah, an unwanted child will be born into poverty and preventing the mother from crawling out of it. Hurrah for you "moral" scum. She was a fucking whore and deserved that life sentence because she did a stupid thing. How very forgiving of you. That's the problem with "absolute" morals. They don't work and they fuck lives up badly. Hell, we can just throw the little scamp in prison for life when he comes to rob you right? We sure as shit can't let the only people in a position to know anything about the situation make a decision. Lets have politicians make all of our decisions for us. If you've determined they must decide what happens inside another person's body, then anything you whine about the government is utter bullshit. You demand a bigger government that anybody with that immoral asshattery.
Being a critical thinker means approaching what others say with a skeptical eye, even if what they're saying aligns with your political beliefs.
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but there is a huge difference between the two.
Microsoft is known to lie constantly and violate laws with impunity.
Greg Palast has earned an amazing reputation by consistently digging up the truth and reporting it. His record is pretty incredible. He's such a good investigative reporter that he's completely unemployable in the US where real journalism is dead.
Could he be bullshitting? Sure. Is he known for doing that? No. Quite the opposite. So while it is good to be skeptical, there is almost nothing in common between your examples.
I didn't think you were, at least not intentionally.
I like separation of church and state.
As do I. It was the primary thing that set us apart from the rest of the world when our country was founded.
I am calling for a way to prosecute con men for fraud and cults for the criminal acts they commit without them being able to call it religion and get off scot free. I don't pretend that this would be easy, but it is high time something was done.
It's not just a question of it not being easy. It's a certainty that if there were any move toward any amendment that even mentioned religion it would not do what you want it to. The fundies would take it and run and we would have a fascist theocracy. Given the nation's demographics, that's unavoidable with any mucking about with the first amendment. There is nothing those people want more.
I don't disagree that there is a problem in need of a solution, but at this point in time there is no way to get a "solution" that isn't far worse then the current problems. The religious extremists wouldn't let that happen.
P.S. I'm thinking of forming a new core of uptight jerks here at Slashdot. Grammar Nazis should be the only ones. The time of the Logic Fascists is at hand!
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I understand your point, but I think you're wrong.
;-)
If I am, it wouldn't be the first time
The charade of the voting system can't be maintained without your help. It is not a charade worth continuing.
I think it would be far less of a charade with a voting system which had a possibility of not being a charade (IRV, Condorcet, etc) . Viable minor parties are the only way I see a possibility of that happening.
I respect your right to do so, but you will not convince me, under current conditions, to do so.
Do you have a suggestion as to what could actually change the current conditions enough to make you amenable to persuasion on this?
I haven't voted for evil since I became aware of the problem. My integrity is fine.
I didn't intend to imply otherwise. I have never voted for evil to the best of my knowledge.
secondly we dont rate the value of a human life by the ability or desire of another human to support that life.
Until it's actually a human life which can exist independently of it's host body it's a parasite. Your irrational belief that the rights of a nonentity trump the rights of a human beingdemonstrates you lack of even the maost basic common human decency.
Thirdly giving birth odes not mean raising a kid, there is this thing called adoption.
Great, hold a gun to a poor woman's head and demand that she go through massive trauma to satisfy your desire for revenge. Just wonderful.
Lastly I would tel you that I am all for programs like welfare, food stamps, section 8, money for day care and others to help women in this position.
Here's an idea. Pay for it yourself you fucking thief. I do not support your demand that I cough up to pay for more welfare leeches.
Refusing to hear my argument does not mean it does not exist.
I've heard your tired old nonsense arguments so many times I'm sick to death of them.
Just becasue you have faith in some idiotic bullshit does not lend your argument any credence. I just have to look at the results of your sicko immoral beliefs.
What you call my nanny state tenancies is really the want to provide protection for human life and apply equal rights.
Children do not even have equal rights, let alone a bit of unwanted gook.
You may disagree with it being life or not and *that* is where our discussion should be it would prevent insults and vitriol.
No need. First, it ain't. Sorry if reality conflicts with your delusions. Secondly it's irrelevant anyhow. You are in no position to judge whether or not somebody you don't even know should be forced to go through so much trauma and end up in a situation where both the mother and the child who *you* forced into existence yet expect *me* to pay for are worse off. It's sickeningly immoral and downright evil.
Funny I did not think laws against manslaughter required a *huge* federal government.
Funny how you change the subject to something completely irrelevant. You want the government inside every woman's vagina. That demands a huge oppressive government your delusional faith notwithstanding.
You're an arrogant ass if you believe an unwanted kid is worth less than a wanted kid its freaking Nazi like.
Wow. I don't "beleive" anything. I know for a fact that neither I nor you are in any position to make decisions for people who we don't even know with no consideration at all of the reality. Sorry bud, I believe in personal liberty. You're the only one proposing totalitarian laws, so you're far farther along that dark road than I am. In fact the Nazis were avid supporters of the same policy that you are, so you are the only one with whom that comparison has any merit.
Who the hell are you to judge the worth of a kid based on the means of the parents the idea is despicable!
That you'd spout such a blatant lie is what's despicable. If you have to lie to back up your position, then it's not a good position.
I am not in a position to make any such judgement. The only problem is that you are not either, yet you're demanding that that decision be taken away from the only person who is in that position and be given to you. That is the fundamental nature of your belief.
I feel awful for the woman and I think society should be there in every way to help her but murdering an unborn kid is not the answer.
Oh your position would be laughable if it wasn't so deeply sickening.
You believe that a woman is a murderer if she has an abortion. Therefore a woman who is prepared to do that wants to murder her own child. Your "solution" to this is to force her at gunpoint to raise a child who according to your own nonsensical belief she wants to murder.
Wow, I love the total lack of anything approaching a moral coming out of you whack jobs.
Force immoral m
as far as I'm concerned the court system that said Roommates.com couldn't ask that info should be responsible.
Damn right! Fuck those whiny bitches who think anyone should ever take responsibility for their own actions.
Since when is it your right to be my roommate or even enter my home?
;-)
Since this ruling, Sucker. Now slide on over on the couch snd pass that popcorn
I can put up a banner on one of my apartment buildings that says, "Not faggots allowed!" and while it would probably violate about a half dozen sign ordinances,
;-)
and at least one rule of grammar
Prospective employers are legally prohibited from asking for photographs from job applicants, presumably to avoid problems discrimination.
Not the same thing, but curiously of the Universities I applied to CalTech was the only one to require a picture with the application.
I'd say people can do what I disapprove of as long as it doesn't AFFECT others.
Damn near anything anyone does affects other people. The key isn't to whine about it it's to grow a thicker skin.
Most of the federal housing laws and such have been decided at a time when the court was run by the previous. It brought us separation of church and state, the right to kill unborn babies and all.
The Separation of Church and state is the single most radical defining concept of this nation. It is the rock upon which the entire ideal rests. Contrary to your extremist religious delusions that was not added later by "evul Liburalz" or any such thing.
So, seriously if you have nothing but contempt for the fundamental basis of this nation, why don't you move to Saudi Arabia where they already live under your ideal system instead of trying to fuck up this one?
In the US, we've got the Second Amendment helping with that.
The fact that George W Bush and his entire administration don't have a pack of bullet holes where their faces used to be demonstrates the idiocy of that statement.
I'm flabbergasted, positively flabbergasted. Would that be the first and only time this ever happened on
Nope, but the rarity of it is evidenced by the fact that I can remember reading at least a dozen statements similar to that over the years
the Dems are smart not to impeach, even though that's what the country (and world) really needs..
Then they're not "smart", they're political hacks who are accessories after the fact to the massive crimes of this administration.
The vast majority (OK -- ALL) legendary voter fraud comes down to people registering in one place, and failing to un-register when they move elsewhere. Innocent, and normal stuff.
Wait, What?!?
Wow, check out the Nixon/Kennedy election with special emphasis on Chicago "where even the dead vote early and often". I'm not dead, so I only vote here once. Who knows what crazy shit I'll vote for once I'm gone.
There's no denying that the current crop of Republicans are the worst group of corrupt, cowardly, treasonous, murderous thugs and liars in the history of our nation but when you delude yourself into believing that the Democrats haven't done their best at it and just not been good enough at being evil you make yourself look really fucking stupid.
Meanwhile DN viewers knew the administrations claims where highly dubious, years before the MSM woke up and realized they had been acting as loudspeaker for government propaganda.
You need to wake up if you think the MSM didn't know exactly what they were doing. It is, after all, exactly *what they do*.
If the president can't fire them because they're not doing what he thinks they should be doing, why bother having them be presidential appointees.
Because when what he thinks they should be doing is going after "the other party" it makes a pathetic joke out of our entire system of justice.
Do you have any questions that a bright 5 year old couldn't answer?
This isn't in the American news because only the elite of the Bush-haters actually care about the story, and it's something to put on TV on slow news days. I can't wait until the day that this political charade comes back to bite a Democratic president in the ass. This partisan bullshit is exhausting.
Nobody is making you do it. You could stop at any time.
Yes, the firings were for political reasons, and you should be OK with that.
Thank you oh partisan hack douchebag.
No, I should not under any circumstances be ok with the president deciding on how justice will be applied based on the criminal's political party.
That is the one of the most cowardly idiotic lines of bullshit I've ever heard.
That proviso was supposed to be used as a means to ensure that attorneys get appointed in a timely manner in the event of a disaster, but now it conveniently gets used to simply bypass the legislative branch at all times. That is an abuse of the intent of the law
Seriously, Dude, wake up.
That was the intent of the law.
They sure tried. Just because they weren't as successful doesn't mean that they are blameless and perfect.
They failed for the simple reason that they are nowhere near as good as the Republicans at corruption. Absolutely not blameless or perfect.
Clinton, in particular, just didn't think big enough. The largest tax and government spending increases in U.S. history were his attempts at "greatness". Just because those records didn't last through Bush's first term doesn't mean they weren't records at the time.
Wrong!
Clinton didn't even come close to Reagan who was the worst since FDR. Damn, Dude, just Damn.
I'm also somewhat of a fan of McCain, one of the few to stand up to Bush regularly.
Whoa whoa whoa.
McCain stepped up on the torture issue and then caved. Other than that he's been pretty much Bush's lapdog after Bush beat him in the primaries in large part due to spreading lies about McCain's "black baby".
We're talking about an ex POW being portrayed as a coward by a deserter and then kissing his ass.
And just look at his flip flop on that hate mongering douchebag Falwell.
He has no integrity whatsoever.
Seriously, like him if you want to, but standing up to Bush?!? Twaddle.
I personally think we should not allow family members of prior presidents to run for president, which is how we got into the current mess in the first place.
Personally, I blame Ford's Folly.
By pardoning Nixon, he set the stage for some of the worst Presidents we've ever had. Had he had the integrity to do the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient thing then that would have sent the message that even the President is accountable. Instead, he sent the exact opposite message. Do you think for one second that Reagan and his pack of ghouls would have thought they could get away with setting up death squad training camps, training and funding terrorists (in particular the 9/11 terrorists. That atrocity is owned by Reagan), dealing drugs to buy weapons to give to terrorists? Had Nixon been made to pay for his crimes against this nation, then that pack of jackals would have known that they could very well get executed for those various treasonous acts, but instead they *knew* they were above the law. It's only gotten worse from there as each time the same shitbags Rummy, Cheney and on and on worked to outdo their previous crimes knowing for certain they were completely untouchable. It's because of the complete lack of any sort of responsibility, and while the Democrats are no prize the Republicans, ever since they completely rejected their stated platform by rejecting the last real Republican Barry Goldwater, in favor of the big government police state shithead Ronald Reagan have taken corruption and treason to unprecedented levels.
Well, doesn't that kind of show the 'importance' of your vote? Pick one of two horrible options, or one of the two will be forced upon you. I decline to participate in such a cheap charade. So should everyone else.
I'd encourage you to find a minor party candidate who you don't feel is evil and vote for them.
I've voted in every election that I've been eligible for and I have never voted a major party candidate for president and almost never for Congress (Obama was a rare exception).
Now, I've never had a prayer of voting for the winner in a presidential race, but I still have my integrity and it doesn't require victory for me to win. 5% of the vote this time could make a huge difference the next time.
This would be where I part ways its all well and good to say "if you don't want one don't have one" but that is the same half @55 logic used by slave owners. Abortion is about human life and when it comes to protecting that is an absolute.
All you're doing is demonstrating your far less than half ass logical abilities.
So, rather than scaping a bit of gook out and then being able to make something out of herself and then in the future being able to properly raise a kid you in your great "morality" think that the proper course of action is to hold a gun to a woman's head and force her to have a kid that she can not afford who will then be raised in squalor and have almost no chance of ever having a decent life.
I'm just so glad that there are "reasonable" people like you who understand that there is no part of another person's life that you shouldn't stick nanny state government into. It's awesome how you know so much better than people who you don't even know what's best for them. It's great that you love big government so much that you support policies that can not exist without a huge and oppressive federal power.
Congratulations to you for doing what you can to make sure all of our problems get worse because you can't keep your nose out of utereses across the country.
The simple fact is that you can't have anti-abortion laws without a huge government. Your complete lack of any logical ability has you whining about nannny state government when your ilk are the largest proponents of it bar none. What you want can't happen any other way.
How about you grow up, pull your head out of your immoral ass and realise that your position can only make things worse and has no possibility of leading to any positive results. Oh yeah, an unwanted child will be born into poverty and preventing the mother from crawling out of it. Hurrah for you "moral" scum. She was a fucking whore and deserved that life sentence because she did a stupid thing. How very forgiving of you. That's the problem with "absolute" morals. They don't work and they fuck lives up badly.
Hell, we can just throw the little scamp in prison for life when he comes to rob you right?
We sure as shit can't let the only people in a position to know anything about the situation make a decision. Lets have politicians make all of our decisions for us. If you've determined they must decide what happens inside another person's body, then anything you whine about the government is utter bullshit. You demand a bigger government that anybody with that immoral asshattery.
Being a critical thinker means approaching what others say with a skeptical eye, even if what they're saying aligns with your political beliefs.
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but there is a huge difference between the two.
Microsoft is known to lie constantly and violate laws with impunity.
Greg Palast has earned an amazing reputation by consistently digging up the truth and reporting it. His record is pretty incredible.
He's such a good investigative reporter that he's completely unemployable in the US where real journalism is dead.
Could he be bullshitting? Sure. Is he known for doing that? No. Quite the opposite. So while it is good to be skeptical, there is almost nothing in common between your examples.
Rush Limbaugh (a pill-popping patron of underaged prostitutes)
Hate mongering drug addict who pushed others to commit crimes to get him his dope, sure. When was he caught with an underage hooker?
I am not calling for an official state church.
I didn't think you were, at least not intentionally.
I like separation of church and state.
As do I. It was the primary thing that set us apart from the rest of the world when our country was founded.
I am calling for a way to prosecute con men for fraud and cults for the criminal acts they commit without them being able to call it religion and get off scot free. I don't pretend that this would be easy, but it is high time something was done.
It's not just a question of it not being easy. It's a certainty that if there were any move toward any amendment that even mentioned religion it would not do what you want it to. The fundies would take it and run and we would have a fascist theocracy.
Given the nation's demographics, that's unavoidable with any mucking about with the first amendment.
There is nothing those people want more.
I don't disagree that there is a problem in need of a solution, but at this point in time there is no way to get a "solution" that isn't far worse then the current problems. The religious extremists wouldn't let that happen.
P.S. I'm thinking of forming a new core of uptight jerks here at Slashdot. Grammar Nazis should be the only ones. The time of the Logic Fascists is at hand!
What, is this sentence the recruitment test?
Hey, in a good discussion one is allowed some freedom to maneuver, right?
Indeed, your statement was 100% factually accurate