Yes, but the GP (GGP now) was still cheating. The IE icon only appears in the address bar when the page does not have a favicon (which virtually all sites do nowadays). Admittedly, Firefox goes one better and just uses a picture of a blank page. Also, IE does not have an IE icon in the status bar. I just opened IE and got exactly ONE IE icon, in the title bar.
Not instead of, but you could install Firefox and set it as the default browser using Set Program Access and Defaults, and apart from applications which explicitly request IE using DDE, Firefox would appear to be the only browser installed.
This is the most retarded thing that always comes up in IE discussions.
Noone - NOONE - is going to go to all that trouble with a crappy command line tool just to download Firefox - they aren't psychic, so how would they even know that URL. Also, not everyone WANTS to use Firefox. Sometimes I don't (though I am typing this message in Firefox now).
Uh, go to a typical machine with Firefox and count the number of Firefox logos. There's three (title bar, desktop, quicklaunch) plus two Google (address bar, search box). Small wonder people associate the weird fox eating the planet being chased by a bunch of "G"s with The Internet.
What? It says that in the first fucking paragraph!
"With the cooperation of Sony, a collaborative group of academic researchers at a number of institutions have obtained the complete server logs from the company's Everquest 2 MMORPG."
And how about quotes like the below, which make it crystal clear that they were able to actually read the chat interaction
Buried among those happy, average players was a small subset of the populationâ"about five percentâ"who used the game for serious role playing and, according to Williams, "They are psychologically much worse off than the regular players." They belong to marginalized groups, like ethnic and religious minorities and non-heterosexuals, and tended to use the game as a coping mechanism.
The only way they'd know they were role playing is to see the chat.
I don't know in what world you live in where "complete" means "just anonymous usage statistics", but this is Earth.
You have to subscribe to MSDN - the CDs aren't allowed to be given away (which makes sense, since you pay a vastly reduced amount for them in exchange for that tradeoff). No other legal way.
Evolution tried, and failed. I don't really blame them though- Microsoft will probably NEVER release their internals for the Outlook/Exchange marriage, and will continually change the way they communicate just to throw off any competition that tries.
Actually, they've publically released (without any fanfare whatsoever) the entire Exchange server protocol. And there's always Exchange ActiveSync (though that'd have to be a paid addon, since they don't license that for free).
Impressive, but it sounds like you picked the hard way to do it. Did you try the ERP app under WINE for example (or is it not possible for some reason)?
The EULA attempts to form a contract with the user, so the actual legal question (IANAL but come on, we've been discussing this with the assistance of the occasional lawyer for many years now) is whether a EULA is binding. My understanding is that this is still very much up in the air.
Blizzard Entertainment vs MDY Industries. It's not up in the air, and yes it's binding.
Blizzard argued, and Judge Campbell agreed, that when users violated the World of Warcraft EULA, they no longer had a license to play the game and were therefore guilty of copyright infringement. As Siy noted in a blog post last year, Blizzard's theory, if taken literally, would mean that violating any of the rules in the EULA and Terms of Service, such as choosing a screen name that didn't meet Blizzard's guidelines, would be an act of copyright infringement
He's wrong. Trident is integrated (and not all that tightly at all - it's only used for rendering Explorer views, HTML help, things like that), Internet Explorer (which is just chrome around Trident) is not at all.
No, because noone in Zimbabwe or Nambia cares about anti-trust. And noone in a country that cares about antitrust laws is allowed to use Windows 7 Starter (Basic doesn't have this limitation)
Well, making IE uninstallable would be a start. It may also help if they changed their activex object to just use the default browser in browser embedded applications (mmo launchers & such).
That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard - there are technologies that are simply not available in non-IE browsers, and Software Developers should not have to write their embedded HTML for the lowest common denominator (though we all agree that web developers should have a consistent set of abilities across the board - the web is not an embedded application).
With this in mind though, you don't need IE for the control to work - just Trident. Making it possible to remove IE but leave Trident behind for apps that use it wouldn't kill them.
IE 1 (did it even exist?) IE 2 (not bundled, noone used, crappier than Netscape) IE 3 (not bundled, noone used, crappier than Netscape) IE 4 (bundled, better than Netscape)
This is the exact opposite of what you just said.
Oh, and by the way, ActiveX itself is not a "bargehole" - or rather it's as much of one as Mozilla/Netscape plugins are. The problem is poorly written ActiveX (or NS Plugins), and network administrators who do not limit what controls can be loaded in environments where it's warranted.
(Contrary to what it may seem like, I actually hate ActiveX - that crap brought us shit like Flash, which brought us shit like DoubleClick. Up yours Macromedia. However, I am not of the incorrect belief that it's the source of evil).
Non-profit my arse. Mozilla CORPORATION rakes in dollars hand over fist from Google, and passes down lord only knows what tiny portion to Mozilla Foundation.
Firefox' benefactors are just as commercial as Microsoft and Opera.
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Dear god, mod this down as unfiltered bullshit (like the summary).
There's no such thing as this service this guy is talking about (and I actually HAVE Vista machines).
It's like saying that if you stop xinetd in Ubuntu, then you're only allowed to run xemacs.
Yes, but the GP (GGP now) was still cheating. The IE icon only appears in the address bar when the page does not have a favicon (which virtually all sites do nowadays). Admittedly, Firefox goes one better and just uses a picture of a blank page. Also, IE does not have an IE icon in the status bar. I just opened IE and got exactly ONE IE icon, in the title bar.
Not instead of, but you could install Firefox and set it as the default browser using Set Program Access and Defaults, and apart from applications which explicitly request IE using DDE, Firefox would appear to be the only browser installed.
This is the most retarded thing that always comes up in IE discussions.
Noone - NOONE - is going to go to all that trouble with a crappy command line tool just to download Firefox - they aren't psychic, so how would they even know that URL. Also, not everyone WANTS to use Firefox. Sometimes I don't (though I am typing this message in Firefox now).
How about getting your systems to render properly on somewhat more standards compliant browsers - Firefox, Safari, Opera, Chrome
... IE8.
Uh, go to a typical machine with Firefox and count the number of Firefox logos. There's three (title bar, desktop, quicklaunch) plus two Google (address bar, search box). Small wonder people associate the weird fox eating the planet being chased by a bunch of "G"s with The Internet.
(See what I did there?)
It's not even a flaw - you gave Photoshop's installer permission to act administratively on your behalf, so it's exactly what it did!
What? It says that in the first fucking paragraph!
"With the cooperation of Sony, a collaborative group of academic researchers at a number of institutions have obtained the complete server logs from the company's Everquest 2 MMORPG."
And how about quotes like the below, which make it crystal clear that they were able to actually read the chat interaction
Buried among those happy, average players was a small subset of the populationâ"about five percentâ"who used the game for serious role playing and, according to Williams, "They are psychologically much worse off than the regular players." They belong to marginalized groups, like ethnic and religious minorities and non-heterosexuals, and tended to use the game as a coping mechanism.
The only way they'd know they were role playing is to see the chat.
I don't know in what world you live in where "complete" means "just anonymous usage statistics", but this is Earth.
You have to subscribe to MSDN - the CDs aren't allowed to be given away (which makes sense, since you pay a vastly reduced amount for them in exchange for that tradeoff). No other legal way.
Evolution tried, and failed. I don't really blame them though- Microsoft will probably NEVER release their internals for the Outlook/Exchange marriage, and will continually change the way they communicate just to throw off any competition that tries.
Actually, they've publically released (without any fanfare whatsoever) the entire Exchange server protocol. And there's always Exchange ActiveSync (though that'd have to be a paid addon, since they don't license that for free).
Impressive, but it sounds like you picked the hard way to do it. Did you try the ERP app under WINE for example (or is it not possible for some reason)?
Oh, and what is a "boxen"?
You just linked to an article complaining about Exchange 1.0. Seriously, what the fuck? They've release AT LEAST 7 versions since then!
The EULA attempts to form a contract with the user, so the actual legal question (IANAL but come on, we've been discussing this with the assistance of the occasional lawyer for many years now) is whether a EULA is binding. My understanding is that this is still very much up in the air.
Blizzard Entertainment vs MDY Industries. It's not up in the air, and yes it's binding.
You are absolutely, unequivocably, incorrect.
Courts have recently held EULAs to be perfectly valid contracts (see Blizzard Entertainment Inc vs MDY Industries, LLC).
The specific quote that applies is:
Blizzard argued, and Judge Campbell agreed, that when users violated the World of Warcraft EULA, they no longer had a license to play the game and were therefore guilty of copyright infringement. As Siy noted in a blog post last year, Blizzard's theory, if taken literally, would mean that violating any of the rules in the EULA and Terms of Service, such as choosing a screen name that didn't meet Blizzard's guidelines, would be an act of copyright infringement
Oh yes, especially since the bastards finally validated EULAs in court.
Shut up twitter, you aren't insightful in the slightest, and your delusion doesn't represent reality.
(I especially like how you refer to yourself in the third person).
Too soon. Too soon.
You should know that Twitter doesn't cite. Apparently you can't cite hallucinations. Who would have thought?
He's wrong. Trident is integrated (and not all that tightly at all - it's only used for rendering Explorer views, HTML help, things like that), Internet Explorer (which is just chrome around Trident) is not at all.
No, because noone in Zimbabwe or Nambia cares about anti-trust. And noone in a country that cares about antitrust laws is allowed to use Windows 7 Starter (Basic doesn't have this limitation)
Package Management sounds like a lawsuit from Macrovision/Acresso/InstallShield/Whatever-they're-called-today just waiting to happen.
Well, making IE uninstallable would be a start. It may also help if they changed their activex object to just use the default browser in browser embedded applications (mmo launchers & such).
That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard - there are technologies that are simply not available in non-IE browsers, and Software Developers should not have to write their embedded HTML for the lowest common denominator (though we all agree that web developers should have a consistent set of abilities across the board - the web is not an embedded application).
With this in mind though, you don't need IE for the control to work - just Trident. Making it possible to remove IE but leave Trident behind for apps that use it wouldn't kill them.
What the hell are you talking about?
IE 1 (did it even exist?)
IE 2 (not bundled, noone used, crappier than Netscape)
IE 3 (not bundled, noone used, crappier than Netscape)
IE 4 (bundled, better than Netscape)
This is the exact opposite of what you just said.
Oh, and by the way, ActiveX itself is not a "bargehole" - or rather it's as much of one as Mozilla/Netscape plugins are. The problem is poorly written ActiveX (or NS Plugins), and network administrators who do not limit what controls can be loaded in environments where it's warranted.
(Contrary to what it may seem like, I actually hate ActiveX - that crap brought us shit like Flash, which brought us shit like DoubleClick. Up yours Macromedia. However, I am not of the incorrect belief that it's the source of evil).
Non-profit my arse. Mozilla CORPORATION rakes in dollars hand over fist from Google, and passes down lord only knows what tiny portion to Mozilla Foundation.
Firefox' benefactors are just as commercial as Microsoft and Opera.
Word. To say IE gained market share through its own "excellence" is laughable.
Initially it did, because Netscape sucked. Now? Not so much.