How do these compare to the Cray Supercomputers? Last I checked, Cray was top-dog and everyone else was fighting for second place. I mean, it's cool that you can get 135.3 Teraflops out of the BlueGene, but the Cray X1E delievers up to 147 TFLOPS in a single system. Am I just confused and lost?
So the Flu is going to suddenly evolve into a bird?? o.O O.o You seem confused my friend, with adaptation for survival, even if it's fast adaptation, and spontaneous evolution (I know there is a proper term for it, but I can't find it). Even humans can radically adapt to harsh environments given a certain amount of time. Our body adapts, the temperatures don't seem as cold/hot, and we start to notice the blistering wind less. We even become~gasp~immune to certain viruses.
The Evidence of Creation is right infront of YOUR face. You just don't want to see it.
Christianity is a belief system. Plain and simple. Like was said elsewhere in this discussion, you can adopt it as a lifestyle, but it's not necessary. You are expected to, but if you're saved, you're saved. Think of the theif on the cross, all he had was belief in God, and he was told he would be in heaven that day. He had no lifestyle that would be considered Christian.
placing weight on the OT is bad? o.O Christ also said he wasn't here to destroy the old laws, but rather to amend them. And yes, he was the New Covenant. (let me briefly explain)Before Christ, in order to be forgiven for sins a sacrifice was needed. When Christ died on the cross, he became an eternal sacrifice for all man-kind. Thus the Old Covenant of Animal Sacrifice was done away with, while Christ took his place as the lamb of God.
And he did preach against the hypocrites who wore massive robes, struted down the street, had fan-fair blown in public places to announce they were praying. Against those who took the bible and twisted it for their own profit, and used the bible to oppress the common folk. Christ was a carpenter. He was a common man, a sacrifice for the every day person. He did not make his appearance as a Glorious King leading his Army (though He could have, and Will)
And you are right on the fact the Devil can quote Scripture. But so can believers.
Alrightly, I'll bite. Evolution, in certain reguards, is fact. But it does not accurately prove how many started. No "missing" link has been found, no concrete evidence. True? Seems that even several scientists have made up the "missing" link to make themselves famous..only to be found out as a hoax. True? The Strong eat the weak, and a species does adapt and evolve to it's environment. But my family cannot simply make up our minds and go..."I want to be a bird!" and over the course of several generations become birds. It doesn't work to that level. Now, about spontainious evoultion, or whatever the proper term for it is. If that were the case, why have we not seen it happen yet? You are right. Evoultion is a Fact. It is also very, very much a theory.
Not really. I'm not a Holy roller or nothing..just like any other christian. And your right. 99% of the time, no one bothers me. It does strike me that on/. people seem to take snippets of a general statement and tear them apart. Hrrm...good lesson I guess.
You fail to understand. It's not that their forcing their religion on me. It's that, in the example, it's satanic relgion..the exact opposite of what I believe. Our two religions are in war...I guess that would be the word I would choose..So yes I would move away. So sorry. I am not perfect, nor do I profess to be..
No, we are not silly enough to gather in a large circle inside of starbucks..we go outside where there is room, and most certainly not in the doorway. We try and be considerate. But your point is valid. if we all held hands and sung songs inside starbucks, lining the inside, then yes..I would be shoving my religion down your throat. But we don't, so it's a moot point.
Homosexual or not..those are two choices...you either are, or aren't (unless your bi..but thats another issue. For the sake of argument..) Anywho, the primary difference between Atheism, and say..Liberalism..is that one is on beliefs or lack there of..and one is on political/social/personal reform. Apples and Oranges.
And Christianity is not a lifestyle. It is a belief system. here
Actually it's not. Believe it or not, I care little. I'm just speaking from my own experiances. And it doesn't happen every day. But it has happened multiple times in my realitivly short life.
First, a quick google pointed to an interesting figure on the total number of atheists (I hadn't had a reason ever to google it before) 12% of adults nationwide. Just a little more than sixteen total?:-)
Interesting that you expect me to have read a random webpage about atheism. I am no doctorate, just a layman. But, for kicks and giggles, I'm going to read your webpage. Okay? Now, will you do me the favor of reading mine?
And just for the record..Evolution is a theory. Not fact. Least, last I checked...anyone got any links that prove evolution as a FACT? I know, I know..stirred the hornet's nest again...Troll probably..but I am curious..
Wow...I live in Central Cal, and we've got some interesting people around here. At least, in my opionion. We've got the guy that sues every walmart..I heard the guy trying to get the pledge of Alliegence lives near here. There are other things that I can look up, but my mind is fried. Email me if you want more info, I'll look it up for you an everything..lol.
Sure. I'm game. I don't know everything, and don't profess to. But I'm more than willing to sit and listen and chat and talk and swap ideas. Is that so hard to believe?
I love a good coversation. To answer your questions in kind, the first one is easy. No motion is required. None, at least in Christianity. Now, not being a Catholic(and they are christian), I can't answer why they, or any other fairly conservative denomination kneel. I would suspect it is a symbol of humbling yourself before God, though, as I said, I am not a Catholic, so I am merely guessing.
The second question, why do most Christian's pray out loud. This is an interesting one, and also fairly easy to explain. You don't have to. Sometimes it's considered good manners, such as when in a group so that everyone's not standing there in silence (though, if the group was praying silently..another ball-park). I do not have my Doctorate, so I can't tell you the exact reason. It just sometimes seems appropriate to speak aloud, rather than silently. Again, speaking from my own life, most of my prayers when I'm alone are silent, in my head, without any sign that I'm even praying. And they aren't big things either. Some of the most powerful prayer's in the Bible were short, quick, and to the point.
And I suppose there is a little difference between praying aloud in a group, and everyone getting out a prayer rug and becoming an obstruction to traffic (people, cars, customers, what have you)
And just taking a shot at an answer...the definiton of religion has many points to it according to a quick google look up (because I seem to have misplaced my copy of websters..).."Loosely, any specific system of code of ethics, values, and belief." and "A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." (google Definitions of religion on the Web)
And Homosexuality, if I remember correctly, is a value system and life style choice...so why would you have to believe in it? And I didn't mention that the isms are automatically Religions. Though, one could make it his/her/it's religion.
It all depends on who your with. Perhaps I was a little vehemet(sp) in my reply, but it was a knee-jerk reaction. My main point that I was trying to make, and forgive my ineptitude at spelling and clear speach, was that while he may be treated like that where he is, the exact opposite happens where I live, unless we huddle in dark corners and whisper softly.
As to the praying in public, it all depends on who you're with and what's going on. A big group of us right before we take a trip might circle up and the leader pray for the blessing of God on our trip so that no one gets hurt, or if it's just me an my friends, we might just stand casually and one of us (or all of us taking turns) pray for eachother. Never is it louder than what it needs to be for everyone to hear (though that might be a little loud if it's a big group, so everyone can hear). And not usually is it longer than a couple minutes. But like clockwork, if me and a buddy are praying in starbucks or whereever, for whatever reason, for any length of time, we have people come over and tell us to stop or leave. That we're "forcing" our religion on them. Thats all. If I was too trollish on my first post, or offended the original poster, I am sorry, it was not my intention.
I would pose your question the other way around. Living in California, if I so much as breathe a single word about God, I am immeadiately told to cease and desist. I am not talking about getting up on a soap box and preaching (not my style), but rather about praying in public. By myself or with a few friends. Not loudly either. Let the Troll begin, but I am going to stand firm. You may be treated like that in the south, but we're treated like that everywhere else! And as a matter of fact, I am open minded. Not every Christian is a bible thumping zealot..just like every atheist isn't going to shove their moral's down your throat through legislation.
I have no issue watching documentaries about other religions, or lack thereof (though, of course, it raises an interesting view..if you lack a religion..doesn't that become your religion? If you refuse to believe or acknowledge God, aren't you following a belief system?) But I do have a problem with generalization. Judge us on who we are. Listen to what we have to say, and we will listen to what you have to say. In General. Of course, on both sides you have the loud mouths, which do nothing for either side, just cause more misunderstanding and anger.
I'm sure the Anti-christian/.er's are going to take this as a troll, but frankly, I'm sick of being slammed for this. You complain about people acting that way, while you yourself seem to feel free to bash the other side in the manner you just mentioned offended you!
To quote someone I heard once: "If I cant tell you my truth, and have you at least LISTEN, your not open minded. your a closed minded fool that doesnt deserve to breathe air. its that simple."
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How do these compare to the Cray Supercomputers? Last I checked, Cray was top-dog and everyone else was fighting for second place. I mean, it's cool that you can get 135.3 Teraflops out of the BlueGene, but the Cray X1E delievers up to 147 TFLOPS in a single system. Am I just confused and lost?
So the Flu is going to suddenly evolve into a bird?? o.O O.o You seem confused my friend, with adaptation for survival, even if it's fast adaptation, and spontaneous evolution (I know there is a proper term for it, but I can't find it). Even humans can radically adapt to harsh environments given a certain amount of time. Our body adapts, the temperatures don't seem as cold/hot, and we start to notice the blistering wind less. We even become~gasp~immune to certain viruses.
The Evidence of Creation is right infront of YOUR face. You just don't want to see it.
Nono...they just try and destroy the standing military and kill millions of tissue samples each year..But hey! At least they didn't fly those planes!
Christianity is a belief system. Plain and simple. Like was said elsewhere in this discussion, you can adopt it as a lifestyle, but it's not necessary. You are expected to, but if you're saved, you're saved. Think of the theif on the cross, all he had was belief in God, and he was told he would be in heaven that day. He had no lifestyle that would be considered Christian.
placing weight on the OT is bad? o.O Christ also said he wasn't here to destroy the old laws, but rather to amend them. And yes, he was the New Covenant. (let me briefly explain)Before Christ, in order to be forgiven for sins a sacrifice was needed. When Christ died on the cross, he became an eternal sacrifice for all man-kind. Thus the Old Covenant of Animal Sacrifice was done away with, while Christ took his place as the lamb of God.
And he did preach against the hypocrites who wore massive robes, struted down the street, had fan-fair blown in public places to announce they were praying. Against those who took the bible and twisted it for their own profit, and used the bible to oppress the common folk. Christ was a carpenter. He was a common man, a sacrifice for the every day person. He did not make his appearance as a Glorious King leading his Army (though He could have, and Will) And you are right on the fact the Devil can quote Scripture. But so can believers.
Alrightly, I'll bite. Evolution, in certain reguards, is fact. But it does not accurately prove how many started. No "missing" link has been found, no concrete evidence. True? Seems that even several scientists have made up the "missing" link to make themselves famous..only to be found out as a hoax. True? The Strong eat the weak, and a species does adapt and evolve to it's environment. But my family cannot simply make up our minds and go..."I want to be a bird!" and over the course of several generations become birds. It doesn't work to that level. Now, about spontainious evoultion, or whatever the proper term for it is. If that were the case, why have we not seen it happen yet? You are right. Evoultion is a Fact. It is also very, very much a theory.
Not really. I'm not a Holy roller or nothing..just like any other christian. And your right. 99% of the time, no one bothers me. It does strike me that on /. people seem to take snippets of a general statement and tear them apart. Hrrm...good lesson I guess.
You fail to understand. It's not that their forcing their religion on me. It's that, in the example, it's satanic relgion..the exact opposite of what I believe. Our two religions are in war...I guess that would be the word I would choose..So yes I would move away. So sorry. I am not perfect, nor do I profess to be..
And by showing such knowledge about such a minor (at least in followers) religion, so would you. :-) So I guess we're both in the minority, eh?
Twist my words once..
No, we are not silly enough to gather in a large circle inside of starbucks..we go outside where there is room, and most certainly not in the doorway. We try and be considerate. But your point is valid. if we all held hands and sung songs inside starbucks, lining the inside, then yes..I would be shoving my religion down your throat. But we don't, so it's a moot point.
Homosexual or not..those are two choices...you either are, or aren't (unless your bi..but thats another issue. For the sake of argument..) Anywho, the primary difference between Atheism, and say..Liberalism..is that one is on beliefs or lack there of..and one is on political/social/personal reform. Apples and Oranges.
And Christianity is not a lifestyle. It is a belief system. here
Actually it's not. Believe it or not, I care little. I'm just speaking from my own experiances. And it doesn't happen every day. But it has happened multiple times in my realitivly short life.
First, a quick google pointed to an interesting figure on the total number of atheists (I hadn't had a reason ever to google it before) 12% of adults nationwide. Just a little more than sixteen total? :-)
Interesting that you expect me to have read a random webpage about atheism. I am no doctorate, just a layman. But, for kicks and giggles, I'm going to read your webpage. Okay? Now, will you do me the favor of reading mine?
And just for the record..Evolution is a theory. Not fact. Least, last I checked...anyone got any links that prove evolution as a FACT? I know, I know..stirred the hornet's nest again...Troll probably..but I am curious..
Wow...I live in Central Cal, and we've got some interesting people around here. At least, in my opionion. We've got the guy that sues every walmart..I heard the guy trying to get the pledge of Alliegence lives near here. There are other things that I can look up, but my mind is fried. Email me if you want more info, I'll look it up for you an everything..lol.
I'd probably move out of earshot and give a quick prayer for your soul. Just, a personal thing..
Sure. I'm game. I don't know everything, and don't profess to. But I'm more than willing to sit and listen and chat and talk and swap ideas. Is that so hard to believe?
I love a good coversation. To answer your questions in kind, the first one is easy. No motion is required. None, at least in Christianity. Now, not being a Catholic(and they are christian), I can't answer why they, or any other fairly conservative denomination kneel. I would suspect it is a symbol of humbling yourself before God, though, as I said, I am not a Catholic, so I am merely guessing.
The second question, why do most Christian's pray out loud. This is an interesting one, and also fairly easy to explain. You don't have to. Sometimes it's considered good manners, such as when in a group so that everyone's not standing there in silence (though, if the group was praying silently..another ball-park). I do not have my Doctorate, so I can't tell you the exact reason. It just sometimes seems appropriate to speak aloud, rather than silently. Again, speaking from my own life, most of my prayers when I'm alone are silent, in my head, without any sign that I'm even praying. And they aren't big things either. Some of the most powerful prayer's in the Bible were short, quick, and to the point.
And I suppose there is a little difference between praying aloud in a group, and everyone getting out a prayer rug and becoming an obstruction to traffic (people, cars, customers, what have you)
And just taking a shot at an answer...the definiton of religion has many points to it according to a quick google look up (because I seem to have misplaced my copy of websters..).."Loosely, any specific system of code of ethics, values, and belief." and "A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." (google Definitions of religion on the Web)
And Homosexuality, if I remember correctly, is a value system and life style choice...so why would you have to believe in it? And I didn't mention that the isms are automatically Religions. Though, one could make it his/her/it's religion.
It all depends on who your with. Perhaps I was a little vehemet(sp) in my reply, but it was a knee-jerk reaction. My main point that I was trying to make, and forgive my ineptitude at spelling and clear speach, was that while he may be treated like that where he is, the exact opposite happens where I live, unless we huddle in dark corners and whisper softly.
As to the praying in public, it all depends on who you're with and what's going on. A big group of us right before we take a trip might circle up and the leader pray for the blessing of God on our trip so that no one gets hurt, or if it's just me an my friends, we might just stand casually and one of us (or all of us taking turns) pray for eachother. Never is it louder than what it needs to be for everyone to hear (though that might be a little loud if it's a big group, so everyone can hear). And not usually is it longer than a couple minutes. But like clockwork, if me and a buddy are praying in starbucks or whereever, for whatever reason, for any length of time, we have people come over and tell us to stop or leave. That we're "forcing" our religion on them.
Thats all. If I was too trollish on my first post, or offended the original poster, I am sorry, it was not my intention.
I would pose your question the other way around. Living in California, if I so much as breathe a single word about God, I am immeadiately told to cease and desist. I am not talking about getting up on a soap box and preaching (not my style), but rather about praying in public. By myself or with a few friends. Not loudly either. Let the Troll begin, but I am going to stand firm. You may be treated like that in the south, but we're treated like that everywhere else! And as a matter of fact, I am open minded. Not every Christian is a bible thumping zealot..just like every atheist isn't going to shove their moral's down your throat through legislation. I have no issue watching documentaries about other religions, or lack thereof (though, of course, it raises an interesting view..if you lack a religion..doesn't that become your religion? If you refuse to believe or acknowledge God, aren't you following a belief system?) But I do have a problem with generalization. Judge us on who we are. Listen to what we have to say, and we will listen to what you have to say. In General. Of course, on both sides you have the loud mouths, which do nothing for either side, just cause more misunderstanding and anger. I'm sure the Anti-christian /.er's are going to take this as a troll, but frankly, I'm sick of being slammed for this. You complain about people acting that way, while you yourself seem to feel free to bash the other side in the manner you just mentioned offended you!
To quote someone I heard once: "If I cant tell you my truth, and have you at least LISTEN, your not open minded. your a closed minded fool that doesnt deserve to breathe air. its that simple."