Yes the Antarctic is setting records for sea ice.http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
This is proof that it's not external/ambient temperature. You can't build sea ice further from the poles and melt polar glaciers without some other influence.
The Antarctic is setting records for sea ice. See here: http://www.nasa.gov/content/go...
Yes west Antarctic glaciers are melting. Now how can this be happening? IF it were global warming as you all want to shout from the rooftops then sea ice would also be in decline. Instead of spewing the alarmist line why don't you do a little research for yourselves.
http://www.livescience.com/461...
Being skeptical is not required here, simply applying logic to the situation tells you that this is not global warming in action.
The link references a peer reviewed study. Here is the direct link since you are apparently click impaired as well as an idiot. http://journals.ametsoc.org/do...
This will be my last post since you guys are so horrible at debating real science you had to rate me down so I can't post.
All I can say to you is this: Stop being a sheeple. Research for yourself and you will realize that the science really is on the skeptical side of this debate. Start with my essay, REALLY READ IT, and then do your own research. http://www.tccdebate.com/
First you obviously did not actually look at the chart I posted. They start Dec 1996 and Jan 1997 well before the ENSO event you are speaking about.
This will be my last post since you guys are so horrible at debating real science you had to rate me down so I can't post.
All I can say to you is this: Stop being a sheeple. Research for yourself and you will realize that the science really is on the skeptical side of this debate. Start with my essay, REALLY READ IT, and then do your own research. http://www.tccdebate.com/
Yes you are quoting the instrumental record which is adjusted, and even so 2014 was only.03 degrees warming, THEY THINK. Here are the satellite records. https://bobtisdale.files.wordp... just because you start your record as a cherry picked low temperature to include the positive PDO phase warming from 79-98 does not mean that there has been warming since 1998, there HAS NOT been. Even by your instrumental record NASA admits the warming since 1998 is NOT statically significant. To put it another way, the "warming" is well within the margin of error of the data set.
Once again you've provided no scientific proof or observational data. What we have here is an appeal to authority. Next you will tell me about the consensus. SCIENCE is NOT consensus. Here is my scientific data for you. Two data sets no warming. https://bobtisdale.files.wordp...
Sorry to rain on your alarmists site but quoting but all they are doing is making one of many excuses for the pause which is the heat is hiding in the oceans. Where were the oceans before? Did they suddenly appear in 1998 when the warming stopped? Nope this is just an excuse and it's wrong as you can see here:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/14/bad-news-for-trenberths-missing-heat-new-study-finds-the-deep-oceans-cooled-from-1992-to-2011-and/ the oceans actually cooled. Keep blindly believing the lies you are told though. I'm still waiting for actual science.
Yes those ACTUAL SCIENTISTS state that the record is.03 degrees. This is ONLY in the instrumental data set which as I stated has been adjusted to hell and back. Satellites do not show that, and they are more accurate SCIENTIFICALLY..03 degrees is NOT statistically significant to the point that NASA had to back track and say they are only 38% sure that 2014 was the hottest year. You need to read my essayy because you are talking out of your ass. This explains your hottest ever lies. http://www.tccdebate.com/
You cannot know that we will fuck anyone in a generation or two. Even with increased CO2 emissions both sat. datasets show no warming now for over 18 years. True believers like you can only point to the sparse and many times adjusted instrument records. The climate models are obviously wrong. the science is NOT on your side and yet you blindly plow ahead. How about you try an argument with ACTUAL SCIENCE rather than attacking funding so i can thoroughly destroy you. PLEASE prove to be with science that dangerous man-made global warming is real.
It's not about denial it's about scientific facts. The science is on the side of the skeptics. Even with increased CO2 emissions both sat. datasets show no warming now for over 18 years. True believers like you can only point to the sparse and may times adjusted instrument records. The climate models are obviously wrong. the science is NOT on your side and yet you blindly plow ahead.
The point the Skeptics are making is that it is morally wrong to implement our current plan. We are turning food into fuel while people starve in the name of fighting climate change. There are 1.5 BILLION people living with no power, burning wood and dung for cooking and warmth. We could help them develop with fossil fuels but we don't. Meanwhile the entire plan if successful in cutting 80% emissions would only save ONE TENTH of a degree of warming.
We also don't really know how much warming there will be, nor if that is actually dangerous. See Judith Curry's recent testimony before congress.
Most people, politicians and I'm sure the Pope don't understand what the real debate on climate change is.
If you would like to know what the real debate is about read this: http://www.tccdebate.com/
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Yes the Antarctic is setting records for sea ice.http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
This is proof that it's not external/ambient temperature. You can't build sea ice further from the poles and melt polar glaciers without some other influence.
The Antarctic is setting records for sea ice. See here: http://www.nasa.gov/content/go...
Yes west Antarctic glaciers are melting. Now how can this be happening? IF it were global warming as you all want to shout from the rooftops then sea ice would also be in decline. Instead of spewing the alarmist line why don't you do a little research for yourselves.
http://www.livescience.com/461...
Being skeptical is not required here, simply applying logic to the situation tells you that this is not global warming in action.
The link references a peer reviewed study. Here is the direct link since you are apparently click impaired as well as an idiot. http://journals.ametsoc.org/do...
This will be my last post since you guys are so horrible at debating real science you had to rate me down so I can't post.
All I can say to you is this: Stop being a sheeple. Research for yourself and you will realize that the science really is on the skeptical side of this debate. Start with my essay, REALLY READ IT, and then do your own research. http://www.tccdebate.com/
First you obviously did not actually look at the chart I posted. They start Dec 1996 and Jan 1997 well before the ENSO event you are speaking about.
This will be my last post since you guys are so horrible at debating real science you had to rate me down so I can't post.
All I can say to you is this: Stop being a sheeple. Research for yourself and you will realize that the science really is on the skeptical side of this debate. Start with my essay, REALLY READ IT, and then do your own research. http://www.tccdebate.com/
Yes you are quoting the instrumental record which is adjusted, and even so 2014 was only .03 degrees warming, THEY THINK. Here are the satellite records. https://bobtisdale.files.wordp... just because you start your record as a cherry picked low temperature to include the positive PDO phase warming from 79-98 does not mean that there has been warming since 1998, there HAS NOT been. Even by your instrumental record NASA admits the warming since 1998 is NOT statically significant. To put it another way, the "warming" is well within the margin of error of the data set.
Once again you've provided no scientific proof or observational data. What we have here is an appeal to authority. Next you will tell me about the consensus. SCIENCE is NOT consensus. Here is my scientific data for you. Two data sets no warming. https://bobtisdale.files.wordp...
Sorry to rain on your alarmists site but quoting but all they are doing is making one of many excuses for the pause which is the heat is hiding in the oceans. Where were the oceans before? Did they suddenly appear in 1998 when the warming stopped? Nope this is just an excuse and it's wrong as you can see here:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/14/bad-news-for-trenberths-missing-heat-new-study-finds-the-deep-oceans-cooled-from-1992-to-2011-and/ the oceans actually cooled. Keep blindly believing the lies you are told though. I'm still waiting for actual science.
Yes those ACTUAL SCIENTISTS state that the record is .03 degrees. This is ONLY in the instrumental data set which as I stated has been adjusted to hell and back. Satellites do not show that, and they are more accurate SCIENTIFICALLY. .03 degrees is NOT statistically significant to the point that NASA had to back track and say they are only 38% sure that 2014 was the hottest year. You need to read my essayy because you are talking out of your ass. This explains your hottest ever lies. http://www.tccdebate.com/
You cannot know that we will fuck anyone in a generation or two. Even with increased CO2 emissions both sat. datasets show no warming now for over 18 years. True believers like you can only point to the sparse and many times adjusted instrument records. The climate models are obviously wrong. the science is NOT on your side and yet you blindly plow ahead. How about you try an argument with ACTUAL SCIENCE rather than attacking funding so i can thoroughly destroy you. PLEASE prove to be with science that dangerous man-made global warming is real.
It's not about denial it's about scientific facts. The science is on the side of the skeptics. Even with increased CO2 emissions both sat. datasets show no warming now for over 18 years. True believers like you can only point to the sparse and may times adjusted instrument records. The climate models are obviously wrong. the science is NOT on your side and yet you blindly plow ahead.
The point the Skeptics are making is that it is morally wrong to implement our current plan. We are turning food into fuel while people starve in the name of fighting climate change. There are 1.5 BILLION people living with no power, burning wood and dung for cooking and warmth. We could help them develop with fossil fuels but we don't. Meanwhile the entire plan if successful in cutting 80% emissions would only save ONE TENTH of a degree of warming. We also don't really know how much warming there will be, nor if that is actually dangerous. See Judith Curry's recent testimony before congress.
Most people, politicians and I'm sure the Pope don't understand what the real debate on climate change is.
If you would like to know what the real debate is about read this: http://www.tccdebate.com/
Wikipedia is garbage, this is why college professors don't allow it as a reference. Why don't you quote some actual science.