1) new planets ARE new resources. Resouces would be more limited if we *don't* travel.
2) Expensive... so? We're not putting the money onto the rocket and blasting it into space. All the money spent on a project getting people to another planet actually stays on this planet, ready to be spent again on the next thing.
Pay per purchase won't happen. For a start it means it's up to the advertising business to say "hey this person bought something cuz of the ad, here's your money", AND be honest about it. Google can hardly rely on the seller to do this, unless google start providing the shopping cart/payment processing etc. This also means that businesses are going to be releasing to google their sales records, which many (most?) just won't want to do.
Also, if your prices are too outragous, or your website looks dodgy, people aren't going to buy for that reason. This means that google would be sending people to your website for nothing. There's no reason why they'd do that.
My post was pretty damn relevant! There is evidance showing a large sum of money going from PETA to a convicted arsonist, who Ingrid Newkirk (president of PETA) has publically complimented (I forget her exact words, something like "a fine upstanding man"). They refuse to condemn tactics such as firebombing research labs performed by people like ALF (Animal Liberation Front - ie, people fighting for freedom of animals), stating they "understand" it.
They finance people directly involved with applying terrorist tactics against people who don't agree with them.
No wonder it's difficult to track terrorist funding, idiots mark posts like this as "troll". Just because they're fighting for animals, doesn't make them any less dangerous.
...are animal freedom fighters! (ALF, supporters including PETA, USE TERROR TACTICS to fight for their cause... they're not labeled 'terrorists' because they're domestic not foreign?)
"smart people are very good at rationalising the thing they came to believe for none-smart reasons"
The religious will often seek out evidence to support their already-decided beliefs, and so will be blind (even if only subconsciously) to anything that shows otherwise. These aren't the kinds of people who can be trusted with data gathering. I'm not saying that only the religious do this, but anyone who includes FAITH as a major part of their person, is going to have a brain more structured that way.
From memory, cell membrane's are made of liquid crystal molecules. Memory's hazy, but it goes something like this:
( o = water molecule, => carbon liquid crystal molecule )
o => <= o o o o=> <= o
o => <= o o (inside of cell) o o=> <= o
o => <= o o o o=> <= o
\ \ \____ inner layer
\ \_________ charged void
\______ outer layer
The chain of carbon molecules forms the skin of the cell, as the charge at one end means that water molecules move to that side. I seem to recall carrots playing a role in it's discovery. You'll have to google for more info, but basically, liquid crystal is "borrowed" bio-tech:-)
Clicking with the only intention being costing the advertiser money is what you'd call illegal clicks. For example:
"I get paid x per click of this ad, so I'm going to click it lots to get money from the advertiser"
or
"My competitor pays x per click of this ad, so I'm gonna click it lots to eat away at their marketting budget"
or even
"I'm going to cost [google] this customer, by clicking on this advert lots, but never buying anything. The advertising company will see their [google] clicks aren't translating to sales, and will stop advertising there".
Google isn't the one being accused of performing the click fraud, just being told they have to refund where it occured. Just like if someone uses your credit card, you can perform a chargeback on the company who ended up with your money. That's not to say it was them who performed the fraud, it was just them who ended up with the money from it.
"people will notice their clickthrough rates decreasing and a few of them will stop advertising with Google?"
No, you pay per-click, if your clicks go down, then the amount that you will have spent with google will by extension go down. You'd only want to stop advertising with google if your clicks weren't translating to enough sales.
...the advertisers have decided to put the whole $90M into a single shot ABSOLUTELY HUGE advert... it's pot luck who will get to see it, but let's hope they were intending to make a purchase!
ugh, it's not google that will be giving the offer any more than it would be the radio station! It's up to the company buying advertising space/time to work out how affective it is - *they* include the message "mention this ad for discount". If everybody mentions it, they know to keep advertising there, otherwise, they'd look at discontinuing advertising there.
Popups etc, I agree, but I've used google adwords from both sides - when looking for cheap secure certificates, for various sites I've worked on, I've followed google ad's AND made the purchase. Also, one of my clients registers adwords, I was actually surprised at how many direct sales it brings in (not counting people who come to the site, then come back later to make the purchase - can't track those so easily).
Google ads work because they're shown to you while you're actually looking for them.
Okay that's RUBBISH. The strength of the economy is nothing to do with how much money is out there, but how much it's moving around.
Cash is an abstraction of value. It's value comes from the fact that it's mutually recognised as having a value. That's where it's value comes from, a common-agreement. You find *anything* that people are just as willing to exchange for services/resources as money. Gold's "worthless" unless you can find someone who's willing to exchange it for something you want (eg, sex). A pig's useless if you're living with vegie hippies (not that they have money anyway).
Money means not having to look long and hard for someone who's willing to trade with you. This means you have time for other things. Money is an abstract representation of time ("time is money" is true). There is no way, by the furthest stretch of imagination, that you can say time is worthless. It's the most valuable thing you've got.
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1) new planets ARE new resources. Resouces would be more limited if we *don't* travel.
2) Expensive... so? We're not putting the money onto the rocket and blasting it into space. All the money spent on a project getting people to another planet actually stays on this planet, ready to be spent again on the next thing.
if we're not meant to eat them, why are they made out of meat?
Pay per purchase won't happen. For a start it means it's up to the advertising business to say "hey this person bought something cuz of the ad, here's your money", AND be honest about it. Google can hardly rely on the seller to do this, unless google start providing the shopping cart/payment processing etc. This also means that businesses are going to be releasing to google their sales records, which many (most?) just won't want to do.
Also, if your prices are too outragous, or your website looks dodgy, people aren't going to buy for that reason. This means that google would be sending people to your website for nothing. There's no reason why they'd do that.
The one's with the economy class tickets???
"What these dumb fucks don't realize is that you don't have to DO anything. You just have to talk a good game."
The government realise that, they talk a good enough game for the terrorists to not have to say anything themselves!
Except they call it "a video telephony USB camera"... but yeah, a webcam... damn, can't even make a joke! :-p
My post was pretty damn relevant! There is evidance showing a large sum of money going from PETA to a convicted arsonist, who Ingrid Newkirk (president of PETA) has publically complimented (I forget her exact words, something like "a fine upstanding man"). They refuse to condemn tactics such as firebombing research labs performed by people like ALF (Animal Liberation Front - ie, people fighting for freedom of animals), stating they "understand" it.
They finance people directly involved with applying terrorist tactics against people who don't agree with them.
No wonder it's difficult to track terrorist funding, idiots mark posts like this as "troll". Just because they're fighting for animals, doesn't make them any less dangerous.
...are animal freedom fighters! (ALF, supporters including PETA, USE TERROR TACTICS to fight for their cause... they're not labeled 'terrorists' because they're domestic not foreign?)
no no no, they just don't have a sense of humour!
Terrorist says what...
"smart people are very good at rationalising the thing they came to believe for none-smart reasons"
The religious will often seek out evidence to support their already-decided beliefs, and so will be blind (even if only subconsciously) to anything that shows otherwise. These aren't the kinds of people who can be trusted with data gathering. I'm not saying that only the religious do this, but anyone who includes FAITH as a major part of their person, is going to have a brain more structured that way.
You are free, to do as we tell you!
-- hicks (and probably others)
Not necessarily, there's something to be said for getting your name out there as much and as everywhere as possible.
Cisco's gonna be selling webcams now? :-p
if you DID cure all disease and disability, there'd be none of them left!!!
From memory, cell membrane's are made of liquid crystal molecules. Memory's hazy, but it goes something like this:
:-)
( o = water molecule, => carbon liquid crystal molecule )
o => <= o o
o o=> <= o
o => <= o o (inside of cell)
o o=> <= o
o => <= o o
o o=> <= o
\ \ \____ inner layer
\ \_________ charged void
\______ outer layer
The chain of carbon molecules forms the skin of the cell, as the charge at one end means that water molecules move to that side. I seem to recall carrots playing a role in it's discovery. You'll have to google for more info, but basically, liquid crystal is "borrowed" bio-tech
Clicking with the only intention being costing the advertiser money is what you'd call illegal clicks. For example:
"I get paid x per click of this ad, so I'm going to click it lots to get money from the advertiser"
or
"My competitor pays x per click of this ad, so I'm gonna click it lots to eat away at their marketting budget"
or even
"I'm going to cost [google] this customer, by clicking on this advert lots, but never buying anything. The advertising company will see their [google] clicks aren't translating to sales, and will stop advertising there".
Google isn't the one being accused of performing the click fraud, just being told they have to refund where it occured. Just like if someone uses your credit card, you can perform a chargeback on the company who ended up with your money. That's not to say it was them who performed the fraud, it was just them who ended up with the money from it.
"people will notice their clickthrough rates decreasing and a few of them will stop advertising with Google?"
No, you pay per-click, if your clicks go down, then the amount that you will have spent with google will by extension go down. You'd only want to stop advertising with google if your clicks weren't translating to enough sales.
One 100%-for-certain technique I employ is by being the fraudulent clicker myself, then it's just a case of 'fessing up to it.
You answer's in your question!
:)"
:-p
"So "click fraud" is running a script that will work fine with no mouse attached to the system, and without ever _clicking_ on anything?
If it's pay-per-click, you shouldn't be paying if no clicking is taking place!
...the advertisers have decided to put the whole $90M into a single shot ABSOLUTELY HUGE advert... it's pot luck who will get to see it, but let's hope they were intending to make a purchase!
ugh, it's not google that will be giving the offer any more than it would be the radio station! It's up to the company buying advertising space/time to work out how affective it is - *they* include the message "mention this ad for discount". If everybody mentions it, they know to keep advertising there, otherwise, they'd look at discontinuing advertising there.
Come on, think!
Popups etc, I agree, but I've used google adwords from both sides - when looking for cheap secure certificates, for various sites I've worked on, I've followed google ad's AND made the purchase. Also, one of my clients registers adwords, I was actually surprised at how many direct sales it brings in (not counting people who come to the site, then come back later to make the purchase - can't track those so easily).
Google ads work because they're shown to you while you're actually looking for them.
Okay that's RUBBISH. The strength of the economy is nothing to do with how much money is out there, but how much it's moving around.
Cash is an abstraction of value. It's value comes from the fact that it's mutually recognised as having a value. That's where it's value comes from, a common-agreement. You find *anything* that people are just as willing to exchange for services/resources as money. Gold's "worthless" unless you can find someone who's willing to exchange it for something you want (eg, sex). A pig's useless if you're living with vegie hippies (not that they have money anyway).
Money means not having to look long and hard for someone who's willing to trade with you. This means you have time for other things. Money is an abstract representation of time ("time is money" is true). There is no way, by the furthest stretch of imagination, that you can say time is worthless. It's the most valuable thing you've got.