Oh okay sorry *lol* yeah is kinda what i mean. Yeah it will find cropped images, but an image split into a 10x10 grid (or somethin, depending on the original image size) should remove enough detail from each cell to ensure that that just can't happen. It might find it if you search for a red square with a blue line running through it for example, but not what the actual thing is.
No! There's a million arguments that completely miss the point that prove otherwise! Doesn't matter if you're "depriving on a permanent bases" the creators rights to control copy/distribution of the creation, as long as they get to keep the original copy of the creation, nothing is removed... *cough*
Anyway, what have the slashdot masses got to do with the actual article?
meh, depends how you work. I run stuff that's out of tree. Changing a few settings and recompiling takes no time at all, cuz I have source code for everything in place. With a binary distro installed (as in, without all the dev packages / srpms) yeah, recompiling stuff is a PITA, which is why I avoid them like the plague. Whether it's getting vmware-any-any to work, using clustered block devices, out of tree graphics drivers, or changing configuration to stop some random locking problem from cropping up and grinding all the cpu's to a halt during ext3 writes, it's -real- easy, because everything's in place to do it.
If you run a system with seperated dev packages that may or may not all be installed then naturally things like that are gonna be complicated.
Who said anything about scrabling it??? Have you never built a jigsaw? Never seen how you can put pieces of an image next to each other so you can see the whole thing???
Yeah I hadn't thought of it that way before, but you're right, f**k it, lets shut the internet down and stop developing any technologies that can't be used to stop people ripping your pics from flickr. You're so right that there's no one else in the world who's interested in developing image recognition algorithms for anything other than protecting their snaps on flickr.
The linked page doesn't say anything about 'steal/stolen'... neither does the lil intro video clip on the linked page. Looks like slashdot headline that talks about that. Equivalent would be to describe the Google search engine as a tool for tracking people who have stolen text from your website... it's hardly an all round view of what the thing does, is meant for, or is mostly used for (which is obviously porn).
They're blatently not pixel by pixel comparisons... look at the tech, don't listen to the woman! If it was pixel based then an image saved using two different implementations of jpeg wouldn't match up. It's probably more likely that a map of lines, shapes, patterns etc in the image is built up, and then they are what's compared. This means images that are different sizes, have different light/colouring (such as a high quality scan vs poor quality) and colour depths, but are of the same thing, can still yield results.
Err... or is that not what you meant by pixel by pixel search?
better off if trying to escape it slicing images up into tiny squares and rearranging them in a table grid or something... it seems to be able to recognise slight differences in the image well enough.
I find a bit of simple javascript works well, and is out of sight of genuine users. If you wanna account for people who block javascript (rather than a note saying "please turn on javascript for a sec, think of the children") you can have a captcha in a span or div etc, then use javascript to remove it and replace it with a hidden field with a name<-->value pair that can be compared server side when they post the form and have the values checked. Yes, someone could look at the page source and see what's going on and write a script that gets round it, but (unless you're really big like google) most of what tries to hit you will just be automated scripts that don't have javascript interpreters and so aren't going to post the completed form.
Wow people are really goin to town with the offtopic mods *sigh* conversation nazis "you will follow STRICTLY the rules of conversation or your karma will be no more!!!". Such a waste, there are posts out there that need modding up than these slightly-offtopic posts need modding down!
And yes I have started coming across more captchas that do seem just impossible to read, they certainly know how to make you feel stupid 'n illiterate. Apparently it's a new system in place, like the one in the article, but for prescription notes from doctors... "if anyone can find someone who can read this, google can".
Wonder what else is difficult to read we could use this for... which way my gf's moodswings are gonna go? (haha guess which way it is at the moment... I'm here on slashdot, that should be a big clue:-p)
If it was like a metaphor, does that make it a simile? No wait, this means you're using using metaphors as a simile? Hmm this could get confusing... perhaps we could make a reCAPTCHA like technology but with old metaphors instead of letters and create a big database of abstraction...
(ps: I am my own brother who wrote that above, so I am definitely confused, can someone help please?)
Could be DEVISTATING to the poor fool who blindly follows details from a patent that describes a machine built with a random penis stuck in... that's a machine I don't even wanna think about *shudder*
I've long since learnt that communicating with people on internet forums has nothing on socialising with a bunch of people in person... yet here we find ourselves.
There's a lot of life in the grey areas dude, in my experience it's those who go with "gotta be all or nothing" attitudes that miss out more. Something about "is what happens between plans"?
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Oh okay sorry *lol* yeah is kinda what i mean. Yeah it will find cropped images, but an image split into a 10x10 grid (or somethin, depending on the original image size) should remove enough detail from each cell to ensure that that just can't happen. It might find it if you search for a red square with a blue line running through it for example, but not what the actual thing is.
okay now you're just trying to wind me up! *lol* oi! I've got girls in my life for that! (and my god they're doing it)
Haha, no buffer space, just mean splitting into different files so search engine's not gonna pick 'em up as a single image :-)
You forgot the hooker, duh, you're never gonna get anywhere if you forget the hooker.
And perhaps blackjack.
But that's only if you can't be arsed to write your own kernel.
unlike the rest of the post which was totally accurate and dead serious?
No! There's a million arguments that completely miss the point that prove otherwise! Doesn't matter if you're "depriving on a permanent bases" the creators rights to control copy/distribution of the creation, as long as they get to keep the original copy of the creation, nothing is removed... *cough*
Anyway, what have the slashdot masses got to do with the actual article?
Is that really true though? Or just what you're guessing?
I'm gonna ask him to make sure
Worse? ... or... better? :-D
I dunno, all I've tried in the past is an SQL injection.
meh, depends how you work. I run stuff that's out of tree. Changing a few settings and recompiling takes no time at all, cuz I have source code for everything in place. With a binary distro installed (as in, without all the dev packages / srpms) yeah, recompiling stuff is a PITA, which is why I avoid them like the plague. Whether it's getting vmware-any-any to work, using clustered block devices, out of tree graphics drivers, or changing configuration to stop some random locking problem from cropping up and grinding all the cpu's to a halt during ext3 writes, it's -real- easy, because everything's in place to do it.
If you run a system with seperated dev packages that may or may not all be installed then naturally things like that are gonna be complicated.
only named monkeys, not AC's unfortunately for ya :-(
"I've fixed my scheduler so it does blah-blah... include it?"
*tap* *tap* *tap*
"ah it's okay, I see your improvement ideas, and I've added it to my schedular instead..."
I do have to say I agree - sometimes that does appear to be the case.
Who said anything about scrabling it??? Have you never built a jigsaw? Never seen how you can put pieces of an image next to each other so you can see the whole thing???
Yeah I hadn't thought of it that way before, but you're right, f**k it, lets shut the internet down and stop developing any technologies that can't be used to stop people ripping your pics from flickr. You're so right that there's no one else in the world who's interested in developing image recognition algorithms for anything other than protecting their snaps on flickr.
gugh
The linked page doesn't say anything about 'steal/stolen'... neither does the lil intro video clip on the linked page. Looks like slashdot headline that talks about that. Equivalent would be to describe the Google search engine as a tool for tracking people who have stolen text from your website... it's hardly an all round view of what the thing does, is meant for, or is mostly used for (which is obviously porn).
"rather than a brute force pixel by pixel search"
They're blatently not pixel by pixel comparisons... look at the tech, don't listen to the woman! If it was pixel based then an image saved using two different implementations of jpeg wouldn't match up. It's probably more likely that a map of lines, shapes, patterns etc in the image is built up, and then they are what's compared. This means images that are different sizes, have different light/colouring (such as a high quality scan vs poor quality) and colour depths, but are of the same thing, can still yield results.
Err... or is that not what you meant by pixel by pixel search?
better off if trying to escape it slicing images up into tiny squares and rearranging them in a table grid or something... it seems to be able to recognise slight differences in the image well enough.
I find a bit of simple javascript works well, and is out of sight of genuine users. If you wanna account for people who block javascript (rather than a note saying "please turn on javascript for a sec, think of the children") you can have a captcha in a span or div etc, then use javascript to remove it and replace it with a hidden field with a name<-->value pair that can be compared server side when they post the form and have the values checked. Yes, someone could look at the page source and see what's going on and write a script that gets round it, but (unless you're really big like google) most of what tries to hit you will just be automated scripts that don't have javascript interpreters and so aren't going to post the completed form.
Wow people are really goin to town with the offtopic mods *sigh* conversation nazis "you will follow STRICTLY the rules of conversation or your karma will be no more!!!". Such a waste, there are posts out there that need modding up than these slightly-offtopic posts need modding down!
And yes I have started coming across more captchas that do seem just impossible to read, they certainly know how to make you feel stupid 'n illiterate. Apparently it's a new system in place, like the one in the article, but for prescription notes from doctors... "if anyone can find someone who can read this, google can".
Wonder what else is difficult to read we could use this for... which way my gf's moodswings are gonna go? (haha guess which way it is at the moment... I'm here on slashdot, that should be a big clue :-p)
"Oh, I know. That was, like, a metaphor, right?"
If it was like a metaphor, does that make it a simile? No wait, this means you're using using metaphors as a simile? Hmm this could get confusing... perhaps we could make a reCAPTCHA like technology but with old metaphors instead of letters and create a big database of abstraction...
(ps: I am my own brother who wrote that above, so I am definitely confused, can someone help please?)
I bet it's not far from the truth! What's google but the indexing of the [online] expressions of the populace of which you speak?
...and this morning my spelling happens to also be devastating... grr
Could be DEVISTATING to the poor fool who blindly follows details from a patent that describes a machine built with a random penis stuck in... that's a machine I don't even wanna think about *shudder*
Oh come on, troll?! Made me chuckle... anyone with sense of humour got mod points to fix that one?
"Companies will not be able to use it due to the vast majority of the material being copyrighted"
Oh no! Companies will have to learn how to take photos like people can!
"So who exactly are they doing this for?"
It's a research project. As many cools techs out of MS-research projects seem to just disapear, I'd maybe go with... themselves?
I've long since learnt that communicating with people on internet forums has nothing on socialising with a bunch of people in person... yet here we find ourselves.
There's a lot of life in the grey areas dude, in my experience it's those who go with "gotta be all or nothing" attitudes that miss out more. Something about "is what happens between plans"?
Now now, there's no such things as idiotic questions, only idiotic people.