Maybe I'm ignorant, but I'm not getting how DST translates to saving barrels of oil. I guess we get our hydro from water up here, although ther eare people heating with oil products, etc... but regardless of DST, when its cold, you heat.
Making a change to DST will in no way be anywhere near a y2k type experience. Maybe the US thinks it can kick start their economy by making such a change. If Microsoft can do it, why not USA.GOV?
Simply put, this change is USA only. Y2K was worldwide. DST won't stop programs from working, Y2K crashed and burned. variance in who is on DST or not is something that already exists (inside the US and outside) so this is an implementation thing. Y2K involved re-engineering. DST moved time by 100 years, DST 1 hour.
I think a simple solution would be to adjust everyones who is on a DST program to fall back only 30 minutes the next time and not change ever again. I doubt that the reasons that we have DST are anywhere near as valid as they were when it was created. Society has grown/changed and we need to keep up with the times.
Yah.. but if all the American's came up to Canada, wouldn't we inherit some of the idiocracy from them? God knows we are a very accomodating society. Pretty soon people will be wining court cases over the hardship they were caused when they robbed someones house and got locked in the garage with only dog food to eat for 5 days...
Spend your money here, we'll gladly take it. To stay on topic... doesn't common sense dictate most of the laws that are out there. I think the problem with society is that common sense is being lost. Like my shot at the US above with regards to the suing. Doesn't common sense say that the idiot is breaking the law, so it is HIS fault he was there... the owners have no responsability. No wonder insurance is going through the roof... stupidity... lack of common sense. Same applies to this thread... I post my email to contact me with regards to getting information on my products I sell, or services I provide... Penis enlargment is not something I need, nor advertised that I want... Common sense. The electronic age can only build in so much protection to things. i.e., if you don't want to wear your seatbelt, then don't. it's your loss when you die in that accident. You should not be covered under insurance if you are not wearing a seatbelt. common sense. it's your fault, not the fault of society for not making it illegal for you to do it.
there should be a universal law called Common Sense. What ever happened to that?
You may want to check your cost $0 estimates. Anything that requires enforcement can turn into a huge cash cow. Look at gun registry and GST. Gun registry costs a billion dollars and has done very little. GST is a revenue generation means, but costs tons of money to administer, and arguably, nets a negative amount.
To add my 2 cents with regards to Kyoto, I think the world needs to start doing what is right, not what they can get away with, or dictate. Nothing comes without a cost of some sort. With this thought in mind, a major source of our polution is from petro. Now answer me this... If Bush will go to war and accumulate 2 Trillion dollars worth of debt over oil (yes there is more to it, but don't be nieve and think oil has nothing to do with it), do you think any measure that reduces the amount of oil used will fly in the US?
I dream of a Star Trek reality where things are done for the good of mankind. Right now, the world is run on cash. There is a shift required for any of these things to happen. I don't think its enough that global warming is threatening mankind. Look at the amount of damage from natural disasters in the last year. If that's not enough of a sign that we are doing things wrong, I don't know what is. Still, we fight over the "details" of making the world a place where our kids can live. Countries say no, instead of working to something realistic. I use the saying, shoot for the stars and you may hit the moon. The moon is still way better than what we have now...
Time will tell I guess
BTW... license plates are purchased once and used as long as you want to. Validation stickers are what we purchase every year or two. If we make cheap, wasteful appliances illegal, who governs it? What do we do with all the "waste" appliances that people are getting fined for? What if you aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford higher end appliances and products that aren't so polluting. Nice thoughts, but a few holes.
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Maybe I'm ignorant, but I'm not getting how DST translates to saving barrels of oil. I guess we get our hydro from water up here, although ther eare people heating with oil products, etc... but regardless of DST, when its cold, you heat. Making a change to DST will in no way be anywhere near a y2k type experience. Maybe the US thinks it can kick start their economy by making such a change. If Microsoft can do it, why not USA.GOV? Simply put, this change is USA only. Y2K was worldwide. DST won't stop programs from working, Y2K crashed and burned. variance in who is on DST or not is something that already exists (inside the US and outside) so this is an implementation thing. Y2K involved re-engineering. DST moved time by 100 years, DST 1 hour. I think a simple solution would be to adjust everyones who is on a DST program to fall back only 30 minutes the next time and not change ever again. I doubt that the reasons that we have DST are anywhere near as valid as they were when it was created. Society has grown/changed and we need to keep up with the times.
Yah.. but if all the American's came up to Canada, wouldn't we inherit some of the idiocracy from them? God knows we are a very accomodating society. Pretty soon people will be wining court cases over the hardship they were caused when they robbed someones house and got locked in the garage with only dog food to eat for 5 days... Spend your money here, we'll gladly take it. To stay on topic... doesn't common sense dictate most of the laws that are out there. I think the problem with society is that common sense is being lost. Like my shot at the US above with regards to the suing. Doesn't common sense say that the idiot is breaking the law, so it is HIS fault he was there... the owners have no responsability. No wonder insurance is going through the roof... stupidity... lack of common sense. Same applies to this thread... I post my email to contact me with regards to getting information on my products I sell, or services I provide... Penis enlargment is not something I need, nor advertised that I want... Common sense. The electronic age can only build in so much protection to things. i.e., if you don't want to wear your seatbelt, then don't. it's your loss when you die in that accident. You should not be covered under insurance if you are not wearing a seatbelt. common sense. it's your fault, not the fault of society for not making it illegal for you to do it. there should be a universal law called Common Sense. What ever happened to that?
You may want to check your cost $0 estimates. Anything that requires enforcement can turn into a huge cash cow. Look at gun registry and GST. Gun registry costs a billion dollars and has done very little. GST is a revenue generation means, but costs tons of money to administer, and arguably, nets a negative amount. To add my 2 cents with regards to Kyoto, I think the world needs to start doing what is right, not what they can get away with, or dictate. Nothing comes without a cost of some sort. With this thought in mind, a major source of our polution is from petro. Now answer me this... If Bush will go to war and accumulate 2 Trillion dollars worth of debt over oil (yes there is more to it, but don't be nieve and think oil has nothing to do with it), do you think any measure that reduces the amount of oil used will fly in the US? I dream of a Star Trek reality where things are done for the good of mankind. Right now, the world is run on cash. There is a shift required for any of these things to happen. I don't think its enough that global warming is threatening mankind. Look at the amount of damage from natural disasters in the last year. If that's not enough of a sign that we are doing things wrong, I don't know what is. Still, we fight over the "details" of making the world a place where our kids can live. Countries say no, instead of working to something realistic. I use the saying, shoot for the stars and you may hit the moon. The moon is still way better than what we have now... Time will tell I guess BTW... license plates are purchased once and used as long as you want to. Validation stickers are what we purchase every year or two. If we make cheap, wasteful appliances illegal, who governs it? What do we do with all the "waste" appliances that people are getting fined for? What if you aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford higher end appliances and products that aren't so polluting. Nice thoughts, but a few holes.