I just wonder if the rock would effectively transfer and distribute the heat, or if the ambient temperature would eventually rise to meet the average output of the data center.
That's interesting. I suppose that you could make it a lot cheaper if you used the right kind of cooling...I just wonder what the local effects would be if you pumped the entire datacenter's heat output into the surrounding rocks. I wonder if they'd be able to keep up, or if their ambient temperature would end up being much higher.
Interesting idea, I just wouldn't want to experiment with a datacenter. I do dig the idea of housing computers in a missile silo, though. You've just got to watch out for Deep Crows
Ironically, I just got done doing that, and it's cheaper for me to outsource hosted Exchange with BBES than it is to host it, especially when you consider that I have no idea how to admin it and would have to hire a contractor to do the initial setup and I would have to get trained.
A town with only one house probably doesn't need a fire department. I imagine fire departments measure effectiveness in how many fires they fight, and their success in doing so.
Which is not all-together different from how I measure my effectiveness.
You're assuming that the submitter works for a well functioning company. He and his boss are the only IT workers. I have a very similar vantage point.
I'm fairly sure that without someone in my position, things would grind to a half here in a matter of weeks. Aside from the loss of braintrust, the stuff that would fall through the cracks would pile up and clog the gears the keep our business working.
It's not a good situation (and it certainly limits the amount of time off I get), but it's what we've got at the moment. The board of directors is going to be examining whether to hire another admin soon, and it can't happen fast enough for me.
I'm not attacking what you say or what you do at all, so don't take this that way, but your comment really makes me think about why there are unions in other industries.
If there were an IT workers union, you wouldn't have been allowed to fix minor issues, as I understand it. I've got to wonder why IT has never unionized.
I agree that a full-on financial assessment isn't the IT workers' responsibility, but a rough estimate isn't out of the question. I do agree that it is probably wasted time if the person is spending any considerable time on it.
It would be useful to learn how companies like that determine what to bill for services. Knowing something like that would help the submitter make the decisions, I imagine.
Do you happen to know what metrics they use, like supported nodes, or something of that nature?
I think the problem with moving from bash to zsh for me would be the lack of universal application.
I used to use dvorak, until it drove me insane that no one else anywhere used it. I just accepted the fact that I work in a world that isn't dvorak friendly and now I type qwerty. I'm certain the same thing would happen if I switched to zsh.
Hell, I get pissy because MacOS doesn't have gnu date on it
try using -- msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ touch test msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ mv test "-" msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ ls - msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ rm -- - msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ ls msimmons@newcastle:~/test$
It probably won't help much, since you're used to your syntax (aren't we all?) but if I really really need to cut with a space delimiter, I use \ (that's a \ then two spaces)
Of course, for normal run-of-the-mill things, awk can't be beat for column selection
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I just wonder if the rock would effectively transfer and distribute the heat, or if the ambient temperature would eventually rise to meet the average output of the data center.
For google, we might be talking about magma ;-)
That's interesting. I suppose that you could make it a lot cheaper if you used the right kind of cooling...I just wonder what the local effects would be if you pumped the entire datacenter's heat output into the surrounding rocks. I wonder if they'd be able to keep up, or if their ambient temperature would end up being much higher.
Interesting idea, I just wouldn't want to experiment with a datacenter. I do dig the idea of housing computers in a missile silo, though. You've just got to watch out for Deep Crows
Ironically, I just got done doing that, and it's cheaper for me to outsource hosted Exchange with BBES than it is to host it, especially when you consider that I have no idea how to admin it and would have to hire a contractor to do the initial setup and I would have to get trained.
That's a great analysis of the problem.
I like your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsle..err blog. Thanks.
A town with only one house probably doesn't need a fire department. I imagine fire departments measure effectiveness in how many fires they fight, and their success in doing so.
Which is not all-together different from how I measure my effectiveness.
You work every day to prevent a maniac from coming in and unplugging your equipment? Are you an armed guard?
You're assuming that the submitter works for a well functioning company. He and his boss are the only IT workers. I have a very similar vantage point.
I'm fairly sure that without someone in my position, things would grind to a half here in a matter of weeks. Aside from the loss of braintrust, the stuff that would fall through the cracks would pile up and clog the gears the keep our business working.
It's not a good situation (and it certainly limits the amount of time off I get), but it's what we've got at the moment. The board of directors is going to be examining whether to hire another admin soon, and it can't happen fast enough for me.
It's amazing how many companies take the exact opposite view. It's discouraging.
I wish I could take two weeks off.
I'm building an entire new infrastructure while fighting fires on the existing one. And doing user support, and all sort of other fun things.
Out of (professional) curiosity, how did that wind up? Did it change their perception of your value?
I'm not sure I understand your comment. What do you mean that nothing could be done? About what, specifically?
I'm not attacking what you say or what you do at all, so don't take this that way, but your comment really makes me think about why there are unions in other industries.
If there were an IT workers union, you wouldn't have been allowed to fix minor issues, as I understand it. I've got to wonder why IT has never unionized.
I agree that a full-on financial assessment isn't the IT workers' responsibility, but a rough estimate isn't out of the question. I do agree that it is probably wasted time if the person is spending any considerable time on it.
It would be useful to learn how companies like that determine what to bill for services. Knowing something like that would help the submitter make the decisions, I imagine.
Do you happen to know what metrics they use, like supported nodes, or something of that nature?
pshaw, how can they call the IT guy without phones ;-)
Amen. Know vi, and know the bourne shell, and you're good on close to 100% of the unix machines you'll ever touch.
I think the problem with moving from bash to zsh for me would be the lack of universal application.
I used to use dvorak, until it drove me insane that no one else anywhere used it. I just accepted the fact that I work in a world that isn't dvorak friendly and now I type qwerty. I'm certain the same thing would happen if I switched to zsh.
Hell, I get pissy because MacOS doesn't have gnu date on it
Nice. I'm not sure I'd trust it in production, but cool nonetheless
I knew about sudo, and I knew about !!, but for some reason, I didn't think about putting the two together. nice!
try using --
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ touch test
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ mv test "-"
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ ls
-
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ rm -- -
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$ ls
msimmons@newcastle:~/test$
It probably won't help much, since you're used to your syntax (aren't we all?) but if I really really need to cut with a space delimiter, I use \ (that's a \ then two spaces)
Of course, for normal run-of-the-mill things, awk can't be beat for column selection
ls -al | awk '{print $3}'
to print usernames
I've used "strace" more and more frequently since I found out about it.
ls -alSrh
lists All, Long listing, sort by Size, reverse, with Human filesize listings
du -sh *
is what I use most often. If I need to sort, I do change the -h to -m or -G and pipe it to sort -g
That sounds very cool.
I use synergy to do that across platforms, but if I'm ever using two X terminals, I'll have to try that. Thanks a lot!
Sometimes I need a stopwatch
$ time read