Yes, I do agree with your opinion about the record industry. Point taken.
But my concerns are for ANY and EVERY type of content that can be massivly distributed online, bypassing a monetary exchange for the rightful creator.
Oh yea... so let us set the market price by allowing millions of people to "Share" content.
Free + Free = Free
Fantastic!
Gee.. what happens when there is a drought? No Supply. You can put out as many devices to collect rainwater as you want but if there is no supply, you better believe you'd be paying $20 a pint for that DRM water!
Last time I checked, there was no sign of drought of music available for free download on P2P networks. As far as collecting the content for themselves? A few mouse clicks in hardly an inconvenience.
You see, many people want to use typical business formula's to substantiate the error correction here. This is not the elasticity of Supply and Demand.
You can all argue about DRM till your heads turn purple but don't be ignorant to the issue. THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE PEOPLE. SOLVE IT!
Should we allow shoplifting and justify it because prices were too high in the eyes of the shoplifter? Next thing that happens is the store can no longer pay for that merchandise and if that happens globally, then the manufacturer can no longer create the supply, then all the people along the chain can't earn a living.
Stop bitching about big brother and SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
Let me make it simple for you all:
How can we deliver content online without having massive amounts of people SHARE it?
and stop using these ridiculous examples of "If I buy a comic book and I let my friend read it, is that stealing?
We are only concerned about MASSIVE SHARING.
when was the last time people scanned entire books and SHARED them with millions of internet users? You people are missing the point!!
THE PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE OF NEW TECHNOLOGY, ILLEGAL MASS DISTRIBUTION IS TAKING PLACE.
Are you all that ignorant?
So if you buy a car, you can use that car to go wherever you like. You own it. It's yours and you are free to do with it whatever you chose. That's funny, I don't see you people parking that car with the windows down, the doors unlocked, and your keys in the ignition.
Why not? Why am I not able to SHARE you car? Or SHARE anything else you own? What's wrong with you? Now I know it is not illegal for you to share your vehicle with thousands of people, but I don't see anyone SHARING that.
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This is exaclty what I'm reffering to. All you people with your semantics. Your analogy is off target. Don't dance around the issue. DRM is becoming more and more prevelant to combat piracy of content - period. Yes, you can get water from the heavens for free because you don't have to pay God for it. God or whomever doesnt need, require, or use money (as far as I know). However, the individuals that partake in the creating content and bringing it to the public are all trying to MAKE A LIVING.
But hey, let's turn back the hands of time before a group called the Beatles put out one song. Go grab some instruments and create some form of music. I highly doubt you would come anywhere near creating anything like they did. And record that music for your own listening pleasure. In fact SHARE it with everyone in the universe and not make a cent. Good idea. Go for it. Best of luck. And while you're at it, place some large objects around you abode and collect some drinking water from the rainfall.
There is already plenty of law that can be used to bring pirates to justice and regain lost compensation.
I'd like to see you go after every individual who pirates content. Lets clog the legal system a bit more shall we? Oh... and when you see the bill from legal counsel for going after every single "individual", you sh*t yourself and close the doors to your business. Fight for the rights of the crimminal.. way to go... dum dum
I keep hearing all of this whinning about DRM and I bought it so it's mine to do whatever I wish...yadda yadda. I can rip it strip it... blah blah blah.
All your arguements, all your complaints and you are losing site of the big picture...
TIMES HAVE CHANGED!
You could always buy songs or movies and there were ways to "share" them with friends and family. You could buy one of those dual cassette players and make a tape for a friend or you could buy a double deck VCR and make a copy for a friend. Now I'm sure the labels and studios were not a big fan of this and other than a legal
statement making you aware of the Federal offense, they didn't really try to hard to control this level of "sharing" they knew there would be a loss of revenue but it wouldn't be on a large scale.
Enter the Internet
One guy buys a CD for $14.99, he rips it and puts it on a P2P network. Millions of users hear about this cool thing called Napster where they can grab that song for free. Now millions of people have that song for the one time payment by guy #1 of $14.99 FOR FREE!
Can I say two words here.....
MASS DISTRIBUTION!!
That is the difference here.
Now I don't care about all of these moronic arguements trying to validate reasons that sharing is ok and It actually increases the revenue to the food chain because I went out and bought the CD.... MORE BS!!
Bottom line is because of the ease of mass distribution of content through illegitemate channels of distribution, THAT is why people want control of their content. DRM is not in place for the honest people out there who understand the importance of commerce for consumer goods and how it is all part of the chain, it is in place for the millions of people who are acquiring a "good" and not willing to pay for that "good".
At some point, there may be no profit in creating content, thus no content will be created. So this generation of "I'm entitled"
will cut off their nose to spite thier face because they don't understand the value of "goods" and "commerce".
I'll never forget a scene I saw as a child from one of the Sinbad movies (7th voyage of Sinbad??)
They came upon a shore where all they saw were bones and Sinbad asked "What happened to all of the people" and someone responded "They became too civilized".
So stop all of these silly and moronic arguements and start understanding that "sharing" massive amounts of content instead of paying for it will bring about a collapse of a free market system.
Silly, silly humans.
I am reading more and more about independent TV series being produced for the internet distribution. The question is...would i pay for such content?
Well since I get satellite TV and I'm in the US, I might be willing to pay for some original programming that is NOT available on regular TV.
How much would I pay? Well it seems the typical video online has a quick ad on the beginning of a video clip and possibly one at the end, so it is relatively commercial free. I think anywhere from $.99 - $1.99 would be reasonable.
Imagine if MIAMI VICE was created for online distribution only.... I would pay to see a show like that.
Any thoughts?
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Yes, I do agree with your opinion about the record industry. Point taken. But my concerns are for ANY and EVERY type of content that can be massivly distributed online, bypassing a monetary exchange for the rightful creator.
Oh yea... so let us set the market price by allowing millions of people to "Share" content. Free + Free = Free Fantastic! Gee.. what happens when there is a drought? No Supply. You can put out as many devices to collect rainwater as you want but if there is no supply, you better believe you'd be paying $20 a pint for that DRM water! Last time I checked, there was no sign of drought of music available for free download on P2P networks. As far as collecting the content for themselves? A few mouse clicks in hardly an inconvenience. You see, many people want to use typical business formula's to substantiate the error correction here. This is not the elasticity of Supply and Demand. You can all argue about DRM till your heads turn purple but don't be ignorant to the issue. THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE PEOPLE. SOLVE IT! Should we allow shoplifting and justify it because prices were too high in the eyes of the shoplifter? Next thing that happens is the store can no longer pay for that merchandise and if that happens globally, then the manufacturer can no longer create the supply, then all the people along the chain can't earn a living. Stop bitching about big brother and SOLVE THE PROBLEM. Let me make it simple for you all: How can we deliver content online without having massive amounts of people SHARE it? and stop using these ridiculous examples of "If I buy a comic book and I let my friend read it, is that stealing? We are only concerned about MASSIVE SHARING.
when was the last time people scanned entire books and SHARED them with millions of internet users? You people are missing the point!! THE PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE OF NEW TECHNOLOGY, ILLEGAL MASS DISTRIBUTION IS TAKING PLACE. Are you all that ignorant? So if you buy a car, you can use that car to go wherever you like. You own it. It's yours and you are free to do with it whatever you chose. That's funny, I don't see you people parking that car with the windows down, the doors unlocked, and your keys in the ignition. Why not? Why am I not able to SHARE you car? Or SHARE anything else you own? What's wrong with you? Now I know it is not illegal for you to share your vehicle with thousands of people, but I don't see anyone SHARING that.
http://vt.essortment.com/whatisfreemar_rkfq.htm This is exaclty what I'm reffering to. All you people with your semantics. Your analogy is off target. Don't dance around the issue. DRM is becoming more and more prevelant to combat piracy of content - period. Yes, you can get water from the heavens for free because you don't have to pay God for it. God or whomever doesnt need, require, or use money (as far as I know). However, the individuals that partake in the creating content and bringing it to the public are all trying to MAKE A LIVING. But hey, let's turn back the hands of time before a group called the Beatles put out one song. Go grab some instruments and create some form of music. I highly doubt you would come anywhere near creating anything like they did. And record that music for your own listening pleasure. In fact SHARE it with everyone in the universe and not make a cent. Good idea. Go for it. Best of luck. And while you're at it, place some large objects around you abode and collect some drinking water from the rainfall.
There is already plenty of law that can be used to bring pirates to justice and regain lost compensation. I'd like to see you go after every individual who pirates content. Lets clog the legal system a bit more shall we? Oh... and when you see the bill from legal counsel for going after every single "individual", you sh*t yourself and close the doors to your business. Fight for the rights of the crimminal.. way to go... dum dum
I keep hearing all of this whinning about DRM and I bought it so it's mine to do whatever I wish...yadda yadda. I can rip it strip it... blah blah blah. All your arguements, all your complaints and you are losing site of the big picture... TIMES HAVE CHANGED! You could always buy songs or movies and there were ways to "share" them with friends and family. You could buy one of those dual cassette players and make a tape for a friend or you could buy a double deck VCR and make a copy for a friend. Now I'm sure the labels and studios were not a big fan of this and other than a legal statement making you aware of the Federal offense, they didn't really try to hard to control this level of "sharing" they knew there would be a loss of revenue but it wouldn't be on a large scale. Enter the Internet One guy buys a CD for $14.99, he rips it and puts it on a P2P network. Millions of users hear about this cool thing called Napster where they can grab that song for free. Now millions of people have that song for the one time payment by guy #1 of $14.99 FOR FREE! Can I say two words here..... MASS DISTRIBUTION!! That is the difference here. Now I don't care about all of these moronic arguements trying to validate reasons that sharing is ok and It actually increases the revenue to the food chain because I went out and bought the CD.... MORE BS!! Bottom line is because of the ease of mass distribution of content through illegitemate channels of distribution, THAT is why people want control of their content. DRM is not in place for the honest people out there who understand the importance of commerce for consumer goods and how it is all part of the chain, it is in place for the millions of people who are acquiring a "good" and not willing to pay for that "good". At some point, there may be no profit in creating content, thus no content will be created. So this generation of "I'm entitled" will cut off their nose to spite thier face because they don't understand the value of "goods" and "commerce". I'll never forget a scene I saw as a child from one of the Sinbad movies (7th voyage of Sinbad??) They came upon a shore where all they saw were bones and Sinbad asked "What happened to all of the people" and someone responded "They became too civilized". So stop all of these silly and moronic arguements and start understanding that "sharing" massive amounts of content instead of paying for it will bring about a collapse of a free market system. Silly, silly humans.
I am reading more and more about independent TV series being produced for the internet distribution. The question is...would i pay for such content? Well since I get satellite TV and I'm in the US, I might be willing to pay for some original programming that is NOT available on regular TV. How much would I pay? Well it seems the typical video online has a quick ad on the beginning of a video clip and possibly one at the end, so it is relatively commercial free. I think anywhere from $.99 - $1.99 would be reasonable. Imagine if MIAMI VICE was created for online distribution only.... I would pay to see a show like that. Any thoughts?