but tanks are amoung the first things our air force take out. and this "asymmetric warfare" thing that slashdotter like to harp about only works because we are merciful. if we were utterly ruthless and treated it as say the Romans did, that wouldn't work at all. but the evil fat cats with our lawmakers in their pockets actually like long protracted war, good for defense contract shareholder value.
yes, there are launched flares on parachute that make it look like the sun just went to high noon. But you'd have to be suspicious of something to launch one, and then everyone loses cover of night advantage.
no, I don't have access to microsoft desktops, for some reason the schools and libraries around here all run Macs. At home, I've wiped the MS-Windows from every (used) machine as soon as unboxed. poor me
I can whine and warn about potential Microsoft traps, including Miguel de Icaza's MONO. we don't need that kind of shit in the open source world.
VMS actually was written in Macro (essentially cross-compiled assembly from a PDP) and BLISS-32.
But yeah, the classic mainframe OS were written non-C like IBM's PL/S and friends (PL/X now). Unisys (formerly Burroughs) OS are written in NEWP (an extended ALGOL)
the IBM mainframe operating systems that move most of the world's money and commerce weren't written in C, but in pl/x (historically pl/s then pl/as). The Unisys mainframe's (which move most the rest of the money not moved by IBM) OS are written in NEWP.
What good is an open source OS if it requires me to purchase proprietary products to change or compile it? that's not freedom, that's just extension of Microsoft marketing campaign. And what about threat of Microsoft someday saying things built with their tools have Microsoft IP in them?
Except you pseudo-relativity experts don't understand we can establish our reference frame as a standard, and that the exploding star is essentially in our reference frame, as it is not in relativistic motion in relation to us, nor is it or we in huge potential well in relation to each other. It's just a real-time signal propagation lag we experience, no different than sound of firecracker two city blocks away taking a second to reach you.
The star that exploded is not moving at relativistic velocities in relation to us, and the non-inertial part of our and its reference frames are tiny too. It exploded 21 million years ago in our reference frame.
uh, you do realize vmware contains a huge amount of software to make that seamless M.S. Windows "physical to virtual" thing happen? Now I myself have to migrate Linux machines into vmware for certain clients, I've found easy if application configuration files understood, Linux device naming and assignment priority are understood, fstab understood, and network plugging within vmware done correctly.
hahaha, of course Microsoft's customer is The Corporation, they don't give a flying fuck about the rights of individuals. That's why your windows desktop is a combination billboard, snooper and pinball machine for marketers.
oh, those commercial unix implementations or freebsd scale from a handheld device to a supercomputer the size of a city block? FreeBSD is still trying to figure out how to run on 8-way or more SMP without seizing up under high load (check the warning on their web site). Whatever cool things from the past it has, Solaris is going down the tubes under Oracle, to be a one trick pony to run Oracle on their (well, Fujitsu's actually) hardware only. Wail and weep, commercial unix boy, your world is collapsing, and Big Blue and a Penguin are stomping it.
Exactly which capable version control system are you referring? cvs or its step child svn? haha, they're all brittle garbage that don't scale up. Sourceforge gives you a cvs or subversion account (or you can link to your own system, oop that's back to square one)
. I have designed and administered Unix and Unix-like systems that were and are entrusted with moving billions of dollars, and I say "Pardon, but your youth, incredible ignorance and lack of experience is showing"
no, it takes massive effort and expense which is why Microsoft dropped those other three architectures, and the ARM port is still being worked on. Any windows admin can tell you what a bare metal restore does with the most minute of variations in hardware, it get screwed up. We can get MS Windows the alternate name of "Failure of HAL"
"we measure our gearage in miles here", sir! Code from the web tends to unduly stress the lower digits in the stacks but I'm glad I now have optimizing compilers from Cambridge to distribute the gear-wear more evenly!
( The Difference Engine
By William Gibson, Bruce Sterling...its a load of fun!)
Linus is wrong. he is out of focus. most kernel bugs don't let someone have root privileges. thus security need to be a separate consideration. This kernel.org event should be a wake-up call for him
The bronze gears of my steam powered Babbage Engine just smell better when spilled coffee boils off of them. And none of that base 2 conversion crap fouling up my results, decimal in, decimal crunched, decimal out, bi-yatches. The firebox for the boiler takes coal, #2 bunker oil, tires (fuck you al gore), or anything else that burns. I use sheets of mica for punched cards, they're waterproof, fireproof, static electricity proof, magnet proof.
if the slashdot developers weren't so hellbent on making this site a steaming pile of web 2 bloatware, they would instead put in useful features like the ability to log in while posting, like they had long ago. but instead it's going Ubuntu Unity, bazooka barfing the firefox 4 5 6 7 8 9, Gnome 3ing, KDE Krapwaring, lubing the Vista Aero Glass Ass....
some other open source OS put in huge amount of time with the goal of making that impossible, the standard is zero *known* privilege escalation and they will ASAP fix any found. the Linux devs should adopt a similar attitude.
I'm curious, once inside an OpenBSD server as normal user, what rootkit would they use instead of Phalanx to elevate privileges? The OpenBSD teams has expended a lot of effort to combat such a thing.
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we don't make weapons, we make freedom dispensers!
but tanks are amoung the first things our air force take out. and this "asymmetric warfare" thing that slashdotter like to harp about only works because we are merciful. if we were utterly ruthless and treated it as say the Romans did, that wouldn't work at all. but the evil fat cats with our lawmakers in their pockets actually like long protracted war, good for defense contract shareholder value.
yes, there are launched flares on parachute that make it look like the sun just went to high noon. But you'd have to be suspicious of something to launch one, and then everyone loses cover of night advantage.
oh really? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2007/jun/06/microsoftdeadl
no, I don't have access to microsoft desktops, for some reason the schools and libraries around here all run Macs. At home, I've wiped the MS-Windows from every (used) machine as soon as unboxed. poor me
I can whine and warn about potential Microsoft traps, including Miguel de Icaza's MONO. we don't need that kind of shit in the open source world.
oh goody, with that and a $200 product key I'm all set to go with my free as in beer windows 7. oh wait.....
VMS actually was written in Macro (essentially cross-compiled assembly from a PDP) and BLISS-32.
But yeah, the classic mainframe OS were written non-C like IBM's PL/S and friends (PL/X now). Unisys (formerly Burroughs) OS are written in NEWP (an extended ALGOL)
the IBM mainframe operating systems that move most of the world's money and commerce weren't written in C, but in pl/x (historically pl/s then pl/as). The Unisys mainframe's (which move most the rest of the money not moved by IBM) OS are written in NEWP.
What good is an open source OS if it requires me to purchase proprietary products to change or compile it? that's not freedom, that's just extension of Microsoft marketing campaign. And what about threat of Microsoft someday saying things built with their tools have Microsoft IP in them?
Except you pseudo-relativity experts don't understand we can establish our reference frame as a standard, and that the exploding star is essentially in our reference frame, as it is not in relativistic motion in relation to us, nor is it or we in huge potential well in relation to each other. It's just a real-time signal propagation lag we experience, no different than sound of firecracker two city blocks away taking a second to reach you.
The star that exploded is not moving at relativistic velocities in relation to us, and the non-inertial part of our and its reference frames are tiny too. It exploded 21 million years ago in our reference frame.
uh, you do realize vmware contains a huge amount of software to make that seamless M.S. Windows "physical to virtual" thing happen? Now I myself have to migrate Linux machines into vmware for certain clients, I've found easy if application configuration files understood, Linux device naming and assignment priority are understood, fstab understood, and network plugging within vmware done correctly.
what, you don't put in a half-pound piece of scrap too? you're doing it half-assed.
hahaha, of course Microsoft's customer is The Corporation, they don't give a flying fuck about the rights of individuals. That's why your windows desktop is a combination billboard, snooper and pinball machine for marketers.
oh, those commercial unix implementations or freebsd scale from a handheld device to a supercomputer the size of a city block? FreeBSD is still trying to figure out how to run on 8-way or more SMP without seizing up under high load (check the warning on their web site). Whatever cool things from the past it has, Solaris is going down the tubes under Oracle, to be a one trick pony to run Oracle on their (well, Fujitsu's actually) hardware only. Wail and weep, commercial unix boy, your world is collapsing, and Big Blue and a Penguin are stomping it.
Exactly which capable version control system are you referring? cvs or its step child svn? haha, they're all brittle garbage that don't scale up. Sourceforge gives you a cvs or subversion account (or you can link to your own system, oop that's back to square one)
. I have designed and administered Unix and Unix-like systems that were and are entrusted with moving billions of dollars, and I say "Pardon, but your youth, incredible ignorance and lack of experience is showing"
no, it takes massive effort and expense which is why Microsoft dropped those other three architectures, and the ARM port is still being worked on. Any windows admin can tell you what a bare metal restore does with the most minute of variations in hardware, it get screwed up. We can get MS Windows the alternate name of "Failure of HAL"
"we measure our gearage in miles here", sir! Code from the web tends to unduly stress the lower digits in the stacks but I'm glad I now have optimizing compilers from Cambridge to distribute the gear-wear more evenly!
( The Difference Engine By William Gibson, Bruce Sterling...its a load of fun!)
Linus is wrong. he is out of focus. most kernel bugs don't let someone have root privileges. thus security need to be a separate consideration. This kernel.org event should be a wake-up call for him
The bronze gears of my steam powered Babbage Engine just smell better when spilled coffee boils off of them. And none of that base 2 conversion crap fouling up my results, decimal in, decimal crunched, decimal out, bi-yatches. The firebox for the boiler takes coal, #2 bunker oil, tires (fuck you al gore), or anything else that burns. I use sheets of mica for punched cards, they're waterproof, fireproof, static electricity proof, magnet proof.
if the slashdot developers weren't so hellbent on making this site a steaming pile of web 2 bloatware, they would instead put in useful features like the ability to log in while posting, like they had long ago. but instead it's going Ubuntu Unity, bazooka barfing the firefox 4 5 6 7 8 9, Gnome 3ing, KDE Krapwaring, lubing the Vista Aero Glass Ass....
oh boy, then we can have millions of DVD with compromised code on them that everyone thinks is the golden standard. you are a genius.
but how about that "privilege escalation' business that Linux couldn't prevent?
some other open source OS put in huge amount of time with the goal of making that impossible, the standard is zero *known* privilege escalation and they will ASAP fix any found. the Linux devs should adopt a similar attitude.
I'm curious, once inside an OpenBSD server as normal user, what rootkit would they use instead of Phalanx to elevate privileges? The OpenBSD teams has expended a lot of effort to combat such a thing.