This is what gets me. Ubuntu is getting all the praise, but the two companies that pay devs to really push for upstream development are Red Hat and Novell. Novell has a great fork of OpenOffice (go-oo.org) and has really been pushing OpenOffice development.
If anyone is going to circle their wagons around a community fork, the go-oo fork would be where I started.
I believe both Oxygen Office, and Neo Office use it as a starting point for their forks.
And while I praise the effort of OOo devs, everytime there is an update, people download it again. Conversely, one may download it once and the deploy it to 1,000 machines. Downloads are sadly not an accurate indicator of users.
As a scary side-note, the observation I've made working for a newspaper, is that not only is journalism moving to blogs and online sources, but people seem to actually PREFER biased news sources. You'll note that CNN has fallen behind both MSNBC and Fox News, sadly enough. And while newspapers across the country die (and most people say good riddance) few people seem to notice or care that AP feed and local newspaper reporters are often the ones doing the actual investigation and primary reporting so many stories.
When meta-services exist with no source for their news, what will happen to journalism, especially when people seem more interested with the slant than the details?
I sincerely fear for the media state we are moving towards.
Perhaps you need to speak to the people sitting in jail for falsifying tax returns. Again, how the law is upheld and enforced has no bearing on whether or not the law exists.
For instance, I once lived in Upland, California, where it is illegal to eat ice-cream while walking north on either Euclid or Foothill street. (The country is filled with tons of nonsense laws like these, because when communication was sparse and people didn't pay much attention to legislation, politicians would often run on the platform of how many laws they had passed, regardless of what the laws were. You can spend all day looking up crazy laws like these.)
The fact that no one is prosecuted does not change the fact that violating the law technically constitutes a criminal offense, albeit a misdemeanor.
When an audit is performed, often a person is given an opportunity to come in compliance given the assumption the error was made out of ignorance. Didn't Einstein say that nothing is so complex as the tax code? That doesn't change the fact that falsifying the form is in and of itself a crime.
I assume you've never run a business nor been in charge of any sort of accounting.
I later cite the law itself, however I wager my actually taking journalism classes and working for the paper is more experience than the average person throwing in their opinion here.
There is the Nebraska law on libel, which requires "publication", as I work for the major newspaper in Nebraska, I know from experience in dealing with our paper and website, that libels suits have only covered the printed word here.
Most libel laws were written before the internet and make no accommodation for the internet. When the laws specifically stipulate the printed word, and given that the internet is not printed, libels laws do not cover the internet in most states I've seen. But what would I know? I only work for a newspaper and took two years of journalism classes.
I did a Google search and took the first result to quickly compile a list.
Regardless of how the IRS enforces the law, when you violate the law, it is a criminal matter.
There are people who get arrested for a DUI, convicted and never serve a day in jail. Does that mean that DUIs are no longer a criminal offense because they didn't go to jail?
You are an idiot. Saying both parties are bad is not the same as saying I love Republicans. Your idiocy is the exactly the kind I am exposing. This partisan bickering is stupid.
And for what it is worth, Rush is a shock jock and should be treated as such. He is paid to give divisive opinions. People who hate radio personalities often listen more than those who like radio personalities.
I put guys like Moore and Limbaugh in the same boat of hyperbole-laden BS with few facts to back them up.
When HP closed down their facility in town and laid me off, I applied for unemployment. I didn't right away, but about two months later when I was hurting for money and still hadn't found a job. I was told to wait five weeks while my case was reviewed. HP said I quit, and that I wasn't laid off, despite the fact that they closed the facility and laid everyone off. I was told the onus was on my to prove that HP laid me off. I never received a penny. What a system.
Either way, I think all welfare programs should be structured as transition programs save for social security and disability. This is also a bigger issue that is difficult to deal with in small posts here. But I ran a security company in California, and welfare paid more than minimum wage, otherwise you would be too far below the poverty line. I had trouble getting people to work for me because they were betting off not working.
I'm not defending Republicans. I'm saying you can't assume one party is evil and one party is perfect. You're missing my message completely.
And for the record, for the past two years, Democrats have controlled the House, Senate, and most of the Governor seats, and I have always maintained that most of the power is in Capitol Hill. Yet most people I talk to insist Republicans were controlling the government, and should be blamed for all the problems of the past two years.
Both parties voted for the Patriot Act, and continue to vote to renew and extend it. Both parties voted to go to war. Both parties voted for domestic spy programs. Both parties voted for corporate welfare.
It is true that on some of these votes, Democrats have statistically had better voting records that Republicans. And I do praise them for that. But when Dems control both the House and Senate, we shouldn't see domestic spy packages get passed.
The blog (which I haven't updated since my computer died) does not run merely conservative points. My wife is a Republican and I disagree with her all the time. Most of my friends are registered Democrats are I disagree with them a lot of the time.
The primary reason is because neither party really upholds the beliefs they are supposedly based on.
I am a liberal because I subscribe to political beliefs of individual civil rights and freedoms. I get upset when Democrats in office don't uphold those rights they promised to protect. So by your definition, that makes me a right-wing loon because I don't blindly support lying politicians.
I love your logic.
If I failed to list over 200,000 in income, I would go to jail. Daschle did not list income or pay taxes on it. When his salary (excluding benefits such as the car) alone is 2 million dollars from his lobbying firm (which he lied about, claiming he isn't a lobbyist), he can afford an accountant to make sure he is doing his taxes correctly.
Daschle (like many Republicans I assume as well, since it seems more systematic of wealthy bastards rather than following party lines) has the money to pay taxes, but opts not to, while those of us with far less money struggle to pay our bills in a difficult economy.
We should hold our leaders to high standards, expecting them to set good examples, and maybe even (heaven forbid) follow the law.
And perhaps you aren't familiar, but not declaring income is a criminal offense.
Do you understand the difference between a fact and an opinion?
Cheney may be evil. Can you please cite some facts however?
As for your reasoning in general, saying that a large group contains one evil person makes the group evil is very weak reasoning.
I was in the Marine Corps. Some idiot Marines raped a 14 year old girl in Okinawa, and there was a call to remove all Americans from Okinawa because all Marines and all Americans are thusly evil.
It just doesn't work that way. I cited specific, verifiable, objective facts, not subjective opinions.
For instance, Daschle didn't pay taxes and Kundra's company was just raided by the FBI. You can probably dig up evidence to support your opinion that Cheney is evil, but it is important to understand the distinction between facts and opinions.
The fact that Bush also pardoned people doesn't prove that Bill Clinton didn't pardon mafia heads whose families donated to him, or major federal drug dealers.
Find me a name that Bush pardoned who was a known mafia member whose family donated to Bush, and then all you will have proved is my parent point, that both sides are dirty. But at the moment, all you are doing is diverting from the fact that you were spouting BS personal ad hominem partisan attacks while my point flies above your head.
It is dangerous to assume one party is evil and the other is perfect, which you are so determined to prove for me. Thanks.
In many ways Obama may be a better president that Bush. All I'm saying is that Obama's early track record certainly doesn't meet the lofty expectations.
Again, he already rolled back on the campaign promises to appoint new faces and not Washington politicians and lobbyists. He rolled back on his promise for full transparency. He has appointed corrupt politicians with bad track records. He told the media to drop their investigation in Bush's missing email scandal. He signed a new executive order to actually EXPAND the domestic spy program. And while he ordered Gitmo shut down, Secretary Gates said that Obama has ordered for torture to be ramped up in Afghanistan.
Democracy isn't a matter of voting once every four years and then turning off your brains. Democracy is paying attention to what is actually going on in Washington and holding politicians accountable to the promises they made.
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Could IBM in turn purchase the Star Office division from Oracle?
IBM only has access to the OOo 1 codebase for Lotus Symphony currently.
This is what gets me. Ubuntu is getting all the praise, but the two companies that pay devs to really push for upstream development are Red Hat and Novell. Novell has a great fork of OpenOffice (go-oo.org) and has really been pushing OpenOffice development.
If anyone is going to circle their wagons around a community fork, the go-oo fork would be where I started.
I believe both Oxygen Office, and Neo Office use it as a starting point for their forks.
Walmart doesn't carry it, but there is a retail box version.
http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/
And while I praise the effort of OOo devs, everytime there is an update, people download it again. Conversely, one may download it once and the deploy it to 1,000 machines. Downloads are sadly not an accurate indicator of users.
Lotus Symphony, which you refer to, is based off of OOo 1, because that was the last version that IBM could fork a closed-source app off of.
I think Oracle should partner with IBM to allow Symphony to be based off the latest OOo 3 base.
IBM should be able to sell a top-notch threat to MS Office, while OOo could benefit greatly from an improved UI that Symphony offers.
As a scary side-note, the observation I've made working for a newspaper, is that not only is journalism moving to blogs and online sources, but people seem to actually PREFER biased news sources. You'll note that CNN has fallen behind both MSNBC and Fox News, sadly enough. And while newspapers across the country die (and most people say good riddance) few people seem to notice or care that AP feed and local newspaper reporters are often the ones doing the actual investigation and primary reporting so many stories.
When meta-services exist with no source for their news, what will happen to journalism, especially when people seem more interested with the slant than the details?
I sincerely fear for the media state we are moving towards.
Perhaps you need to speak to the people sitting in jail for falsifying tax returns. Again, how the law is upheld and enforced has no bearing on whether or not the law exists.
For instance, I once lived in Upland, California, where it is illegal to eat ice-cream while walking north on either Euclid or Foothill street. (The country is filled with tons of nonsense laws like these, because when communication was sparse and people didn't pay much attention to legislation, politicians would often run on the platform of how many laws they had passed, regardless of what the laws were. You can spend all day looking up crazy laws like these.)
The fact that no one is prosecuted does not change the fact that violating the law technically constitutes a criminal offense, albeit a misdemeanor.
When an audit is performed, often a person is given an opportunity to come in compliance given the assumption the error was made out of ignorance. Didn't Einstein say that nothing is so complex as the tax code? That doesn't change the fact that falsifying the form is in and of itself a crime.
I assume you've never run a business nor been in charge of any sort of accounting.
Your father needs to teach you better.
How is it left-winged or right-winged to not want someone to add words?
I said didn't pay taxes. You asked me to defend the position "didn't pay ANY taxes".
You did add a word there.
Give up and go home.
I later cite the law itself, however I wager my actually taking journalism classes and working for the paper is more experience than the average person throwing in their opinion here.
You inserted the word any.
And yes I said he didn't pay taxes. He did not pay his taxes. That is different from saying he didn't pay ANY taxes.
Stop inserting words I didn't say. Apparently you can't understand the distinction between two statements.
If you are going to argue semantics, you have to argue based on what I actually said, and not the words you inserted.
But frankly, I am tired of your trolling. Go away.
Your link is an assertion as well that email is libel. Well, I've seen "libel suits" filed for radio broadcasts, but it doesn't make it right.
http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=s2502008000
There is the Nebraska law on libel, which requires "publication", as I work for the major newspaper in Nebraska, I know from experience in dealing with our paper and website, that libels suits have only covered the printed word here.
That is your citation. Where is yours?
Most libel laws were written before the internet and make no accommodation for the internet. When the laws specifically stipulate the printed word, and given that the internet is not printed, libels laws do not cover the internet in most states I've seen. But what would I know? I only work for a newspaper and took two years of journalism classes.
Even worse, according to Die Hard 4, you can hack the entire nation with a cell phone.
There are those that consider electronic communication slander, because libel doesn't cover it in many states.
I did a Google search and took the first result to quickly compile a list.
Regardless of how the IRS enforces the law, when you violate the law, it is a criminal matter.
There are people who get arrested for a DUI, convicted and never serve a day in jail. Does that mean that DUIs are no longer a criminal offense because they didn't go to jail?
You are an idiot. Saying both parties are bad is not the same as saying I love Republicans. Your idiocy is the exactly the kind I am exposing. This partisan bickering is stupid.
And for what it is worth, Rush is a shock jock and should be treated as such. He is paid to give divisive opinions. People who hate radio personalities often listen more than those who like radio personalities.
I put guys like Moore and Limbaugh in the same boat of hyperbole-laden BS with few facts to back them up.
I said he didn't pay his taxes. You said he didn't pay any taxes. Those two statements aren't the same.
Whitewater was more of a Hillary issue than Bill first off.
Secondly, people did go to jail over the issue.
Thirdly, a judge ordered Hillary to produce documents and she did not comply.
When HP closed down their facility in town and laid me off, I applied for unemployment. I didn't right away, but about two months later when I was hurting for money and still hadn't found a job. I was told to wait five weeks while my case was reviewed. HP said I quit, and that I wasn't laid off, despite the fact that they closed the facility and laid everyone off. I was told the onus was on my to prove that HP laid me off. I never received a penny. What a system.
Either way, I think all welfare programs should be structured as transition programs save for social security and disability. This is also a bigger issue that is difficult to deal with in small posts here. But I ran a security company in California, and welfare paid more than minimum wage, otherwise you would be too far below the poverty line. I had trouble getting people to work for me because they were betting off not working.
I'm not defending Republicans. I'm saying you can't assume one party is evil and one party is perfect. You're missing my message completely.
And for the record, for the past two years, Democrats have controlled the House, Senate, and most of the Governor seats, and I have always maintained that most of the power is in Capitol Hill. Yet most people I talk to insist Republicans were controlling the government, and should be blamed for all the problems of the past two years.
Both parties voted for the Patriot Act, and continue to vote to renew and extend it. Both parties voted to go to war. Both parties voted for domestic spy programs. Both parties voted for corporate welfare.
It is true that on some of these votes, Democrats have statistically had better voting records that Republicans. And I do praise them for that. But when Dems control both the House and Senate, we shouldn't see domestic spy packages get passed.
Americans need to educate themselves.
The blog (which I haven't updated since my computer died) does not run merely conservative points. My wife is a Republican and I disagree with her all the time. Most of my friends are registered Democrats are I disagree with them a lot of the time.
The primary reason is because neither party really upholds the beliefs they are supposedly based on.
I am a liberal because I subscribe to political beliefs of individual civil rights and freedoms. I get upset when Democrats in office don't uphold those rights they promised to protect. So by your definition, that makes me a right-wing loon because I don't blindly support lying politicians.
I love your logic.
If I failed to list over 200,000 in income, I would go to jail. Daschle did not list income or pay taxes on it. When his salary (excluding benefits such as the car) alone is 2 million dollars from his lobbying firm (which he lied about, claiming he isn't a lobbyist), he can afford an accountant to make sure he is doing his taxes correctly.
Daschle (like many Republicans I assume as well, since it seems more systematic of wealthy bastards rather than following party lines) has the money to pay taxes, but opts not to, while those of us with far less money struggle to pay our bills in a difficult economy.
We should hold our leaders to high standards, expecting them to set good examples, and maybe even (heaven forbid) follow the law.
And perhaps you aren't familiar, but not declaring income is a criminal offense.
Do you understand the difference between a fact and an opinion?
Cheney may be evil. Can you please cite some facts however?
As for your reasoning in general, saying that a large group contains one evil person makes the group evil is very weak reasoning.
I was in the Marine Corps. Some idiot Marines raped a 14 year old girl in Okinawa, and there was a call to remove all Americans from Okinawa because all Marines and all Americans are thusly evil.
It just doesn't work that way. I cited specific, verifiable, objective facts, not subjective opinions.
For instance, Daschle didn't pay taxes and Kundra's company was just raided by the FBI. You can probably dig up evidence to support your opinion that Cheney is evil, but it is important to understand the distinction between facts and opinions.
The fact that Bush also pardoned people doesn't prove that Bill Clinton didn't pardon mafia heads whose families donated to him, or major federal drug dealers.
Find me a name that Bush pardoned who was a known mafia member whose family donated to Bush, and then all you will have proved is my parent point, that both sides are dirty. But at the moment, all you are doing is diverting from the fact that you were spouting BS personal ad hominem partisan attacks while my point flies above your head.
It is dangerous to assume one party is evil and the other is perfect, which you are so determined to prove for me. Thanks.
In many ways Obama may be a better president that Bush. All I'm saying is that Obama's early track record certainly doesn't meet the lofty expectations.
Again, he already rolled back on the campaign promises to appoint new faces and not Washington politicians and lobbyists. He rolled back on his promise for full transparency. He has appointed corrupt politicians with bad track records. He told the media to drop their investigation in Bush's missing email scandal. He signed a new executive order to actually EXPAND the domestic spy program. And while he ordered Gitmo shut down, Secretary Gates said that Obama has ordered for torture to be ramped up in Afghanistan.
Democracy isn't a matter of voting once every four years and then turning off your brains. Democracy is paying attention to what is actually going on in Washington and holding politicians accountable to the promises they made.