Hi
a point made by flashdot lower down - would be best if people who really knew groove spoke of it. since i have used it from day 1, more than 5 yrs ago and developed many tools for it (www.apwiz.com) i hope i qualify.
1. it is a heck of a lot more than a file share or IM tool, or even a bunch of really effective collab tools that let you get real work done straight out of the box - it is a way of wroking that puts the most diverse info, seamlessly, into one place.
2. works anytime, anywhere, with zero admin support or additional infrastructure. none of Lotus killing costs, no servers, no web sites to setup, nothing. just works.
3. functions WITHIN and not against or around enterprise security systems, again with no additional overhead in manpower / costs / setups / downtime.
4. even of a 500Mhz system in 2000 it performed. today it sings, with > 3 gig of content active. Backup is implicit in the p2p distribution of content and groove recovers content painlessly from any avbl member after the worst of disasters. never lost one bit of info in 5 years, unless i goofed.
but for me, the greatest joy has always been that Ray designed this tool to be open, to be programmable (easily) by 3rd party developers - it is indeed a full platform that raises the effectiveness of any business application you build for it, whether distributed warehouse / inventory systems, to Virtual Point of Ssales linking 200 stores of a chain into one seamless operation.
Methinks the adoption of Groove by MS signals their acceptance that Groove is years ahead of their own work, or anyone elses, in this area.
Frankly i expect to see the next great operating system (from MS ?) based on Groove and it's "work naturally" architecture.
It is in fact, totally intuitive to have seperate workspaces with need to know security. Roles and permission have never been an issue.
But yes, everyone agrees that getting data from multiple spaces / tools into a consolidated View has been an issue
No more with the GWS interface that allows the building of dashboards of Groove info quite easy as well as integration to enterprise data via DataBridge. I have over 200 spaces and as many contacts being managed quite well even without.
So all i can say is, try Groove out, with an open mind, forget who owns it now. It was built by Ray who built Notes so comparisons are pointless, this is way way ahead in power and simplicity and cost.
THAT is the clincher, at 200$ a seat this is the first and only tool that can be effectively trickled down the supply chain, across continents, from SMEs, to the smallest factories in Asia, where > 60% of all commerce takes place, and not just the handful of enterprises that could afford collaboration engines before.
Groove is truly going to change the way the world does business.
best regards
ashok
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Hi a point made by flashdot lower down - would be best if people who really knew groove spoke of it. since i have used it from day 1, more than 5 yrs ago and developed many tools for it (www.apwiz.com) i hope i qualify. 1. it is a heck of a lot more than a file share or IM tool, or even a bunch of really effective collab tools that let you get real work done straight out of the box - it is a way of wroking that puts the most diverse info, seamlessly, into one place. 2. works anytime, anywhere, with zero admin support or additional infrastructure. none of Lotus killing costs, no servers, no web sites to setup, nothing. just works. 3. functions WITHIN and not against or around enterprise security systems, again with no additional overhead in manpower / costs / setups / downtime. 4. even of a 500Mhz system in 2000 it performed. today it sings, with > 3 gig of content active. Backup is implicit in the p2p distribution of content and groove recovers content painlessly from any avbl member after the worst of disasters. never lost one bit of info in 5 years, unless i goofed. but for me, the greatest joy has always been that Ray designed this tool to be open, to be programmable (easily) by 3rd party developers - it is indeed a full platform that raises the effectiveness of any business application you build for it, whether distributed warehouse / inventory systems, to Virtual Point of Ssales linking 200 stores of a chain into one seamless operation. Methinks the adoption of Groove by MS signals their acceptance that Groove is years ahead of their own work, or anyone elses, in this area. Frankly i expect to see the next great operating system (from MS ?) based on Groove and it's "work naturally" architecture. It is in fact, totally intuitive to have seperate workspaces with need to know security. Roles and permission have never been an issue. But yes, everyone agrees that getting data from multiple spaces / tools into a consolidated View has been an issue No more with the GWS interface that allows the building of dashboards of Groove info quite easy as well as integration to enterprise data via DataBridge. I have over 200 spaces and as many contacts being managed quite well even without. So all i can say is, try Groove out, with an open mind, forget who owns it now. It was built by Ray who built Notes so comparisons are pointless, this is way way ahead in power and simplicity and cost. THAT is the clincher, at 200$ a seat this is the first and only tool that can be effectively trickled down the supply chain, across continents, from SMEs, to the smallest factories in Asia, where > 60% of all commerce takes place, and not just the handful of enterprises that could afford collaboration engines before. Groove is truly going to change the way the world does business. best regards ashok