I hear what you say about bandwidth, etc., but are we missing the point here?
While this is important for internet/extranet, a lot of users will employ browser apps from within their firewalls (accounts systems, for example), using internal web servers - so no weak links in connectivity.
10 out of 10! And it's not helped by regular postings on numerous blogs extolling the virtues of MAN, VI, the CLI and kernel crunching. Come on guys - use those GUIs, web-style interfaces and all the user-friendly tricks in the book to avoid exposing newbies to *nix and DOS-type environments!
I've been developing systems and supporting end users for more years than I care to remember and you're completely right about users not able to RTFM. There's no hope for them, however, if you try to persuade them that MAN is an alternative - I mean plain text, delivered via CLI! No, if Windows and the internet have taught us nothing else, it is that everyone pretty much knows they don't like CLI - period - and they DO know how to 'ask' the internet for information. So essentially, everything you create that imparts knowledge should really be delivered via something that looks like a web page (i.e. via Firefox/IE).
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I hear what you say about bandwidth, etc., but are we missing the point here?
While this is important for internet/extranet, a lot of users will employ browser apps from within their firewalls (accounts systems, for example), using internal web servers - so no weak links in connectivity.
10 out of 10! And it's not helped by regular postings on numerous blogs extolling the virtues of MAN, VI, the CLI and kernel crunching. Come on guys - use those GUIs, web-style interfaces and all the user-friendly tricks in the book to avoid exposing newbies to *nix and DOS-type environments!
I've been developing systems and supporting end users for more years than I care to remember and you're completely right about users not able to RTFM. There's no hope for them, however, if you try to persuade them that MAN is an alternative - I mean plain text, delivered via CLI! No, if Windows and the internet have taught us nothing else, it is that everyone pretty much knows they don't like CLI - period - and they DO know how to 'ask' the internet for information. So essentially, everything you create that imparts knowledge should really be delivered via something that looks like a web page (i.e. via Firefox/IE).
As far as I can recall it went something like this...
MS got Sybase SQL Server at around v4.2 and re-badged it to MS SQL Server. They worked with Sybase to improve it and that took it to 6.0.
Around that time they bought Foxpro and built some/all of its query engine into SQL Server and got 6.5 (so much better than 6.0!).
Then along came 7.0. What a difference!!!
They re-wrote almost the whole app. Comparisons between the code base from 7.0 and Sybase 4.2 are almost impossible - it was just a different app.
2000 was a set of improvements to the 7.0 codebase and 2005 will probably be more of the same, taking it towards interoperability with Longhorn/WinFS.