That's true. But it still doesn't justify him suing everyone that pointed and laughed at him afterward (if it did, I would have a bunch of big settlements from the day I went to school wearing Spock ears).
I tell you what. I'll call Dell and ask them if I can order one of their computers without Windows on it. At the same time, you can call up Apple and ask them if you can order an computer without OSX on it. We'll meet up at the end and see how it went.
And not ONE of those things ever stopped me from downloading Netscape and installing it on my Windows computer. I know, because I've never used IE (except for especially lame websites that required it). I couldn't give a shit less what apps Windows includes in its install, or what deals they cut with manufacturers to promote their software. All I care about is the freedom to install and use whatever OS and apps I want. And MS has never once intruded on that (nor have I ever had any problems downloading whatever apps I want to my Android phone, for that matter).
Nonsense! With Kiss it used to be about the music, man! Well, that and the lunchboxes, posters, cartoon shows, movies, guest appearances, fast-food tie-ins, TV specials, KISS Army fan club, clothing line, Halloween costumes, makeup line, books, toys, and probably a whole lot of other stuff I'm forgetting about. But the music was in there somewhere, I'm sure of it.
Alas, the Wizard of Woz is long gone. I always thought the real tragedy of Apple was that, of the two Steves, it should be Jobs that has continued and Woz that left. I often wonder what Apple would have looked like in an alternate history where Jobs walked and Woz was put in charge.
And, BTW, since when has MS "forced" me to use Windows or any other MS application? Last time I checked, I'm free to install whatever OS I want on my computer. I'm free to install whatever apps I want in Windows too. When Netscape was suing MS in the 90's, even they acknowledged that MS never tried to block anyone from installing Netscape (or any other browser) in Windows--which they could have. I've never once had MS tell me I *had* to use any of their software. There have always been competing OS's and applications, and no computer manufacturer has ever blocked them (nor has Windows ever blocked applications that competed with Internet Explorer, Office, etc.).
Some geek obsesses over a few facets and makes those perfect then tries to pull the whole thing together later instead of having a plan from the get go.
May I remind you that we also celebrate Linux here?
Actually, in the 1st revisit to the myth they did in 2006, the Mythbusters invited those MIT students to replicate it in a real world situation. They failed. Made for a very entertaining episode, though.
Steve Jobs is a minimalist, heavy-handed, hard-driving, design-obsessed prick?!? Not exactly news.
And I'll say it once again. Considering the observation that Sculley makes that MS is all about hiring geeks and smart people and Apple is all about hiring designers and marketers ("Apple is a designers company, not an engineers company," as he says), it still amazes me that MS is so bashed on/. and Apple so celebrated. You would think the opposite would be true here. Are we still longing to sit at the cool kids' table or something, or have we just bought into that "lifestyle" shit too?
I know Obama is a messianic figure for some, but I don't think even he can change the reality that this just never happened. I don't understand why so many people seem to have invested so much in this obvious myth being true.
I'm a pretty geeky guy who has played around with Linux many times over the years (starting back in the late 90's), hoping to get away from Windows. Frankly, I would love nothing better than an OS I could put on my parents' computers and not have to worry about them calling me a month later complaining about all the pop-ups and viruses they have. And, while great strides have been made with Ubuntu, I'm still not convinced that Linux will ever be that OS I'm looking for. I know these will all be poo-pooed by the Linux fans, but here are/were some of the problems that I (as a very technically literate Windows user) have run up against when I've installed Linux in the past*:
Confusing distros Just thinking about all the different distros and configurations still gives me a headache. Ubuntu has blunted this somewhat, but even with that you have to get into the Gnome vs. KDE thing, which is damned confusing to a layperson. The worst part of this is trying to download software for Linux off of some website and running into multiple versions with odd notations regarding different distros.
Poor documentation Again, Ubuntu helps. But even that is spotty compared to Windows. And the "documentation" website of many distros (and Linux software apps) is little more than a bugfix list.
Software, Software, Software this is the biggest problem, and not so easily dismissed as some fans would pretend. My mom, for example, uses special software to interface with her high-end sewing machine. Is it available for Linux? Probably not. Can I just direct her to a clone of equal quality? Probably not.
Little support (if not openly hostile) There aren't a lot of places to call for Linux support. And a lot of the places you can go for support on the net are filled with Linuix fanatics who are openly hostile to Windows switchers and newbies. The level of "you don't belong here" attitude towards newbies in Linux circles makes Apple fans look civil.
Ways of doing things that are confusing to a Windows user with windows, I can go to a website, download an installer and install my software. with Linux I can install it via the built-in installer. but that only works if said software is in the repository. If not, getting it installed is often a lot more complex than just downloading a file and double clicking on it to install. Which brings me to:
Still too much reliance on the command line interface Telling someone to break out a command line and type "sudo apt-get whateverthefuck" is like telling a Windows user to reinstall DOS and learn its syntax.
Those are just some of the reasons Linux still isn't there for me. Ubuntu has come a long way toward this, but it's still just not there.
*maybe some of these issues have been more recently resolved, but I can only go on my fairly recent dealings with Ununtu and Debian.
You obviously haven't met my cousin Jack. You could give him a multi-million dollar job as a CEO and he would get fired the first day for stealing office supplies and selling them in the alley beside the building.
Most of the thieves I've known in my life weren't stealing because they lacked opportunity. They steal because they're life-long fuck-ups who have blown every opportunity that has ever been given to them.
Methinks the Sarkozy government has some very strange priorities indeed. Either that or they're all sleeping on giant piles of money from the music industry. I would go with the latter.
The robot traders are too big to fail now. Seriously, NYSE and others are scared shitless at the thought of what might happen if they tried to outlaw the practice or even regulate it. It has become so entrenched now that it's like what Thomas Jefferson used to say about slavery (paraphrase) "It's like holding onto a wolf by the snout. You're scared of the wolf, but you're even more scared of what might happen if you let it go."
Given that, they not only have to keep the robotraders, they have to try their best to protect them too. If they don't come down hard on guys who game the robotraders, some clever programmer could bring the whole system down--and the market with it. They'll do anything to keep up the illusion that the market is stable, and not just a house of cards.
If 3D glasses make 2D look like 3D, then it follows that it would have the opposite effect in the 3D real world, of course. Everything would look like an old 2D NES platformer, which would make crossing the street in traffic a significant challenge.
I used to have Tivo years ago and have tried to go back to it several times over the years since I got digital cable. Tivo's great interface and amazing add-on features were something I always missed with my generic cableco DVR. But every time I tried, I ended up going back to the cableco.
The first time I tried to go back to Tivo I had all kinds of problems with the cablecards. I had to have a technician come to install them (no self-install) and he couldn't get them to work. It took two visits to even get them installed and even after that they were wonky. And they charged me for the cablecards too (had to lease them, couldn't buy). That, combined with Tivo's much higher monthly charge, eventually drove me back to the much cheaper generic DVR.
The second time I went back, I had HDTV and bought one of the HDTV Tivo models (a substantial upfront cost, but not as bad as they had been when they first came out). This time the cablecards worked but the problem was that my cableco was using SDV (switched digital video) on many of its HDTV channels. That meant that I couldn't get Universal's HDTV channel (which was rerunning "Firefly" at the time, long before it came out on blu-ray), among others. No adapter was available, and all I could get was a vague promise that they were "working on it." As more and more new channels were added in SDV, I finally gave up and went back to the generic DVR.
Now, a lot of Tivo's shortcomings are their own fault. Their upfront and monthly costs are substantial compared to a generic DVR. The interface on the HDTV models is a lot slower than on the old SD models. They still only have a lousy 30-minute queue for live TV. And I never could get the upconversion function working right (my TV had to adjust it's resolution itself if I changed from a SD to HDTV channel, making channel-surfing painful). But a lot of the problems that have kept me away from my once-beloved Tivo brand have been due to the cableco and how hard they make it to go to a third-party brand.
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That's true. But it still doesn't justify him suing everyone that pointed and laughed at him afterward (if it did, I would have a bunch of big settlements from the day I went to school wearing Spock ears).
So all MS has to do is buy Dell and then you would be okay with them saying "No more Linux on Dells. It's Windows or nothing"?
I tell you what. I'll call Dell and ask them if I can order one of their computers without Windows on it. At the same time, you can call up Apple and ask them if you can order an computer without OSX on it. We'll meet up at the end and see how it went.
And how many Apple's ship without OSX? Is there an option to not pay for that, if I'm going to be using Windows on my Apple?
And not ONE of those things ever stopped me from downloading Netscape and installing it on my Windows computer. I know, because I've never used IE (except for especially lame websites that required it). I couldn't give a shit less what apps Windows includes in its install, or what deals they cut with manufacturers to promote their software. All I care about is the freedom to install and use whatever OS and apps I want. And MS has never once intruded on that (nor have I ever had any problems downloading whatever apps I want to my Android phone, for that matter).
Nonsense! With Kiss it used to be about the music, man! Well, that and the lunchboxes, posters, cartoon shows, movies, guest appearances, fast-food tie-ins, TV specials, KISS Army fan club, clothing line, Halloween costumes, makeup line, books, toys, and probably a whole lot of other stuff I'm forgetting about. But the music was in there somewhere, I'm sure of it.
Was the Las Vegas "death ray" built in the 3rd century BC, made of copper, and training at moving ships hundreds of feet away in a water harbor?
Alas, the Wizard of Woz is long gone. I always thought the real tragedy of Apple was that, of the two Steves, it should be Jobs that has continued and Woz that left. I often wonder what Apple would have looked like in an alternate history where Jobs walked and Woz was put in charge.
But Apple has to approve it or you can't use it.
And, BTW, since when has MS "forced" me to use Windows or any other MS application? Last time I checked, I'm free to install whatever OS I want on my computer. I'm free to install whatever apps I want in Windows too. When Netscape was suing MS in the 90's, even they acknowledged that MS never tried to block anyone from installing Netscape (or any other browser) in Windows--which they could have. I've never once had MS tell me I *had* to use any of their software. There have always been competing OS's and applications, and no computer manufacturer has ever blocked them (nor has Windows ever blocked applications that competed with Internet Explorer, Office, etc.).
Uh oh, I think you just really pissed off an art major in a coffee shop somewhere.
May I remind you that we also celebrate Linux here?
I have a two word response to that: App Store.
I think you just succinctly described /.
Actually, in the 1st revisit to the myth they did in 2006, the Mythbusters invited those MIT students to replicate it in a real world situation. They failed. Made for a very entertaining episode, though.
Steve Jobs is a minimalist, heavy-handed, hard-driving, design-obsessed prick?!? Not exactly news.
And I'll say it once again. Considering the observation that Sculley makes that MS is all about hiring geeks and smart people and Apple is all about hiring designers and marketers ("Apple is a designers company, not an engineers company," as he says), it still amazes me that MS is so bashed on /. and Apple so celebrated. You would think the opposite would be true here. Are we still longing to sit at the cool kids' table or something, or have we just bought into that "lifestyle" shit too?
I know Obama is a messianic figure for some, but I don't think even he can change the reality that this just never happened. I don't understand why so many people seem to have invested so much in this obvious myth being true.
Those are just some of the reasons Linux still isn't there for me. Ubuntu has come a long way toward this, but it's still just not there.
*maybe some of these issues have been more recently resolved, but I can only go on my fairly recent dealings with Ununtu and Debian.
You obviously haven't met my cousin Jack. You could give him a multi-million dollar job as a CEO and he would get fired the first day for stealing office supplies and selling them in the alley beside the building.
Most of the thieves I've known in my life weren't stealing because they lacked opportunity. They steal because they're life-long fuck-ups who have blown every opportunity that has ever been given to them.
Are you suggesting we form a copper posse? Because if you can supply us with S'more Schnapps, firearms, and horses, I'll join right now.
Methinks the Sarkozy government has some very strange priorities indeed. Either that or they're all sleeping on giant piles of money from the music industry. I would go with the latter.
The robot traders are too big to fail now. Seriously, NYSE and others are scared shitless at the thought of what might happen if they tried to outlaw the practice or even regulate it. It has become so entrenched now that it's like what Thomas Jefferson used to say about slavery (paraphrase) "It's like holding onto a wolf by the snout. You're scared of the wolf, but you're even more scared of what might happen if you let it go."
Given that, they not only have to keep the robotraders, they have to try their best to protect them too. If they don't come down hard on guys who game the robotraders, some clever programmer could bring the whole system down--and the market with it. They'll do anything to keep up the illusion that the market is stable, and not just a house of cards.
If 3D glasses make 2D look like 3D, then it follows that it would have the opposite effect in the 3D real world, of course. Everything would look like an old 2D NES platformer, which would make crossing the street in traffic a significant challenge.
I used to have Tivo years ago and have tried to go back to it several times over the years since I got digital cable. Tivo's great interface and amazing add-on features were something I always missed with my generic cableco DVR. But every time I tried, I ended up going back to the cableco.
The first time I tried to go back to Tivo I had all kinds of problems with the cablecards. I had to have a technician come to install them (no self-install) and he couldn't get them to work. It took two visits to even get them installed and even after that they were wonky. And they charged me for the cablecards too (had to lease them, couldn't buy). That, combined with Tivo's much higher monthly charge, eventually drove me back to the much cheaper generic DVR.
The second time I went back, I had HDTV and bought one of the HDTV Tivo models (a substantial upfront cost, but not as bad as they had been when they first came out). This time the cablecards worked but the problem was that my cableco was using SDV (switched digital video) on many of its HDTV channels. That meant that I couldn't get Universal's HDTV channel (which was rerunning "Firefly" at the time, long before it came out on blu-ray), among others. No adapter was available, and all I could get was a vague promise that they were "working on it." As more and more new channels were added in SDV, I finally gave up and went back to the generic DVR.
Now, a lot of Tivo's shortcomings are their own fault. Their upfront and monthly costs are substantial compared to a generic DVR. The interface on the HDTV models is a lot slower than on the old SD models. They still only have a lousy 30-minute queue for live TV. And I never could get the upconversion function working right (my TV had to adjust it's resolution itself if I changed from a SD to HDTV channel, making channel-surfing painful). But a lot of the problems that have kept me away from my once-beloved Tivo brand have been due to the cableco and how hard they make it to go to a third-party brand.
A good manager would want to know more than just the upfront costs. But then, when is the last time anyone worked for one of those?
Oddly enough, that was the exact same thing my last girlfriend said to me before she left.