Actually, I don't even think that you've read the post. You claimed:
He then goes on to conclude the Slashdotteri are not open minded because they all don't share the same uniform views, which he thinks they all should.
Had you actually read what I said, you'd notice that if anything, I'm actually indicating the opposite - we tend to "eschew that which is not [familiar]".
who claims his opinions and beliefs are superior...
Where do I make this claim?
We all know his views and opinions are the real truth
Or this one?
"Open Source, Closed Minds" - This phrase never meant to much to me, until now. After all, I considered Geeks as part of the 'enlightened'. We are the Digeratti - those blessed with an understanding of all that is digital. It is a shift so fundamental that it threatens the foundation of current society and the its' artificial constructs of Intellectual Property. Geeks "get it".
Some points that particularly bother me in this whole discussion:
To my fellow americans - there is indeed an entire world outside of our borders. Spend some time reading about it. Even better, use some of those IT mega-bucks and visit it. It is an eye-opening experience, if you allow it to be so.
To the world - Africa is not a country, but a continent. One can no more make a generalization about this continent and its' societal structures than any other, yet we all seem to assume that the entire of Africa is inhabited by a geneologically and ideologically homogeneous people. This is anything but the case.
To the slashdotteri - Please keep your minds open not just to source, but to ideas. What is source, but the communication of ideas - from human to human, and human to machine.
The company actually does better if they provide crappy service after you sign. That way, you stop using it, but continue paying.
This may be true if the company is not trying to add or expand the customer base - however, if they are actively seeking new customers, a shoddy product with a bad reputation will be a significant obstacle to overcome.
However, as we know, many companies do in fact overcome these difficulties through marketing - case in point: AOL.
I find it particularly interesting that if it is a Linux exploit, it is the fault of the "ignorant Sys Admin".
If it is an NT exploit, it is the fault of the OS manufacturer, even if there is a 'hotfix' or patch available.
I enjoy Linux as much as the next geek, but sometimes I'm disappionted by all the FUD coming from the same community that claims that they are the greatest FUD victims...
Man, I _just_ got off the phone with UPS myself. They said that they had delivered a package (a CD-ROM drive) to me last week, and that I had signed for it(I was out of town all week). When I told them that that was impossible, they finally discovered that they had delivered it to *another house two miles away!*
Now they are saying that they are going to go back and try to get the package back..!
from the article:
We avoided the export controls by
publishing PGP source code in printed books and legally exporting the
books (which were not subject to export controls) to Europe, where
they were scanned in via OCR and compiled back into working software
again and sold on CDROMs all over the world. A neat trick, don't you
think? It worked beautifully...
Actually, one wonders if this will become the method of choice for distribution of 'illegal' source code such as DeCSS, etc...
To start with, how reliable the software is at presenting correct patient data is far more important than the OS or the licensing cost. Everyone has a budget but who wants to go to a hospital where the IT staff select vital systems on the basis of where they can cut a few grand?
I agree with your post wholeheartedly, but, having worked for the largest Healthcare Information Systems provider in the country(McKessonHBOC), I will tell you that hospitals *routinely* do just that.
Money is *very* tight in hospital IT shops - so tight, that when given the choice of losing millions of dollars worth of historical financial data or purchasing a $500 SCSI drive, I've seen shops opt to lose the data.
Amazon doesn't have warehouses piled high to the ceilings with actual books and software you know.
Actually, they do. Amazon discovered in Christmas '98 that they had difficulty supplying customers using Just In Time distrubution methods, and have since built several very large "distribution centers"[1] (aka "warehouses") to enable better product flow to customers.
Has anyone considered researching their arguments before pressing submit? It would certainly improve things around here.
Thank you.. You understood exactly what I was refering to.
I can either take the original function and code, or waste a morning each and every time I need to use it by re-writing it. Either way, we'll end up with the same result. It's just a matter of how much time I waste doing it.
And the argument that I can't re-write the function won't hold water, either - as long as it contains no proprietary business logic. One can hardly claim that common string manipulation functions are proprietary, now, can we?
I currently develop software for companies working under the 'closed source' model of development, as I am certain many of my fellow slashdot readers do the same. I am interested in how this will change life for me as a software developer.
1. As a developer, software licencing issues do not normally effect my day to day work.
2. I am already used to going through a 'code review' process by outside personel, so that while additional eyes may view my code, it really won't change my overall developement style.
3. I suppose that it will make things 'legal' when I take my generic, private libraries and classes that I've written from one employer to the next, but who really concerns themselves about this anyway?
Someone, please, tell me how this will affect me, the average joe software developer guy?
One day, management decided to pipe some happy-happy shit^H^H^H^Hmusic
through the PA system
One of the companies I used to work for had the bright idea of pumping "white noise" through the speakers above our heads. It was supposed to be "noise cancelling". Instead it sounded like a giant toilet flushing eternally over our heads.
One day the speaker system broke, and through the sudden quiet, we all realized that we had been shouting to be heard about the "noise cancellation".
I believe you are speaking of Affirmative Action, and certain Michigan School's efforts to end the practice of Affirmitive Action admission policies.
While I tend to agree with you, I'm also willing to conceed the point that current admissions practices to tend to be be weighted towards the middle-upper class white male.
The FBI claims that they are already sharing information with the industry...
(I'll believe it when I see it).
The FBI is sharing information regarding Carnivore with industry at this time to assist them in their efforts to develop open standards for complying with wiretap requirements. The FBI did so two weeks ago, at the request of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) Implementation Section, at an industry standards meeting (the Joint Experts Meeting) which was set up in response to an FCC suggestion to develop standards for Internet interception. [1]
What's interesting in this case is the FBI's press department, and their use of the word 'industry'. Usually, one would assume that they are referring to the 'computer' industry, but here, apparently, they are refering to the 'law enforcement' industry. See the CALEA web site, and you'll understand...
Looking at the language specs, it appears that C# is Microsoft's answer to the in-between language that many Windows programmers have been asking for some time now. There are some projects that don't really need the power (or complexity) of C++, but VB often overdoes it in the effort to oversimplify and kludge everything together.
I welcome an easier way to program COM/DCOM/COM+ on windows platforms - There are times when I require C++ for its speed and control, but I sacrifice developement time to gain this. A middle ground is much needed.
That having been said, why would we need to port a project to java?
I think the question misunderstands the intended domain for the C# language - A COM-based developement environment.
I'm not sure about in the UK, but in the US general advertisments are NOT contracts. Newspapers adverts are solicitations of offers, that is, asking you to come in and offer them the sale price for the item.
If they don't want to sell it to you at the price you just offered, they don't have to. Nothing wrong there.
In exercising its power over interstate commerce, the Congress has enacted two statutes that have the greatest effect on advertising. These are the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Act and the Lanham Act.
The Lanham Act (Commonly referred to as the "Truth in Advertising Act") provides for private actions based on any "false or misleading" description or representation of fact made about the advertiser's own products or services or about another's products or services. The four elements of proof under the Lanham act are "false or misleading" description or representation of fact made in connection with any goods or services in interstate commerce, which actually deceives, or is likely to deceive, a substantial segment of the intended audience; is material (i.e., is likely to influence purchasing decisions); and the falsity results, or is likely to result, in injury to the plaintiff.[1]
While I doubt that anyone would bother to bring action under the Lanham act for misrepresentation based on advertised price, it could make for a valid arguement.
With IPv6, it's doubtful they'll be able to charge more for address space, but they will be able to charge for things like guaranteed QoS - It'll be easy to tell a customer that "We'll route your traffic as priority traffic for $x per month.."
Slashdot Mirror
yup. that's my problems. thanks.
Yup, I've noticed the exact same thing, though I don't know why this is happening... -jerdenn
[sarcasm]
Because, as we all know, Minesweeper is not crap. It is crucial to the OS. [/sarcasm] -jerdennHe then goes on to conclude the Slashdotteri are not open minded because they all don't share the same uniform views, which he thinks they all should.
Had you actually read what I said, you'd notice that if anything, I'm actually indicating the opposite - we tend to "eschew that which is not [familiar]".
who claims his opinions and beliefs are superior...
Where do I make this claim? We all know his views and opinions are the real truth Or this one?-jerdenn
"Open Source, Closed Minds" - This phrase never meant to much to me, until now. After all, I considered Geeks as part of the 'enlightened'. We are the Digeratti - those blessed with an understanding of all that is digital. It is a shift so fundamental that it threatens the foundation of current society and the its' artificial constructs of Intellectual Property. Geeks "get it".
Or so I thought.
And then, I was introduced to slashdot, and I realized that as a group, we are as any other. We cling to what is close to us, and eschew that which is not. The great Soundcard conspiracy? Very important... Our Geek Brethren in another continent? Not.
Some points that particularly bother me in this whole discussion:
To my fellow americans - there is indeed an entire world outside of our borders. Spend some time reading about it. Even better, use some of those IT mega-bucks and visit it. It is an eye-opening experience, if you allow it to be so.
To the world - Africa is not a country, but a continent. One can no more make a generalization about this continent and its' societal structures than any other, yet we all seem to assume that the entire of Africa is inhabited by a geneologically and ideologically homogeneous people. This is anything but the case.
To the slashdotteri - Please keep your minds open not just to source, but to ideas. What is source, but the communication of ideas - from human to human, and human to machine.
-jerdenn
This may be true if the company is not trying to add or expand the customer base - however, if they are actively seeking new customers, a shoddy product with a bad reputation will be a significant obstacle to overcome.
However, as we know, many companies do in fact overcome these difficulties through marketing - case in point: AOL.
-jerdenn
If it is an NT exploit, it is the fault of the OS manufacturer, even if there is a 'hotfix' or patch available.
I enjoy Linux as much as the next geek, but sometimes I'm disappionted by all the FUD coming from the same community that claims that they are the greatest FUD victims...
-jerdenn
Now they are saying that they are going to go back and try to get the package back..!
UPS sucks.
Electronic Frontier Foundation
1550 Bryant Street, Suite 725 San Francisco CA 94103 USAA printable form is available here, though I am certain they'd be willing to accept your money without all the paperwork..
-jerdenn
-jerdenn
Actually, one wonders if this will become the method of choice for distribution of 'illegal' source code such as DeCSS, etc...
-jerdenn
Actually, it could be argued that they did not copy the music - they merely provided tools to enable the end user to do so.
jerdenn
I agree with your post wholeheartedly, but, having worked for the largest Healthcare Information Systems provider in the country(McKessonHBOC), I will tell you that hospitals *routinely* do just that.
Money is *very* tight in hospital IT shops - so tight, that when given the choice of losing millions of dollars worth of historical financial data or purchasing a $500 SCSI drive, I've seen shops opt to lose the data.
*sigh*
-jerdenn
"I thought I was being clear but perhaps that was too subtle of a point for this audience."
Actually, you were being clear. Clearly incorrect.
-jerdenn
Actually, they do. Amazon discovered in Christmas '98 that they had difficulty supplying customers using Just In Time distrubution methods, and have since built several very large "distribution centers"[1] (aka "warehouses") to enable better product flow to customers.
Has anyone considered researching their arguments before pressing submit? It would certainly improve things around here.
-jerdenn
Sounds more like I would never work for you in the first place...
I can either take the original function and code, or waste a morning each and every time I need to use it by re-writing it. Either way, we'll end up with the same result. It's just a matter of how much time I waste doing it.
And the argument that I can't re-write the function won't hold water, either - as long as it contains no proprietary business logic. One can hardly claim that common string manipulation functions are proprietary, now, can we?
-jerdenn
1. As a developer, software licencing issues do not normally effect my day to day work.
2. I am already used to going through a 'code review' process by outside personel, so that while additional eyes may view my code, it really won't change my overall developement style.
3. I suppose that it will make things 'legal' when I take my generic, private libraries and classes that I've written from one employer to the next, but who really concerns themselves about this anyway?
Someone, please, tell me how this will affect me, the average joe software developer guy?
-jerdenn
One of the companies I used to work for had the bright idea of pumping "white noise" through the speakers above our heads. It was supposed to be "noise cancelling". Instead it sounded like a giant toilet flushing eternally over our heads.
One day the speaker system broke, and through the sudden quiet, we all realized that we had been shouting to be heard about the "noise cancellation".
It was a dilbert company, indeed.
-jerdenn
Actually, they ripped off Sybase, not Oracle.
-jerdenn
While I tend to agree with you, I'm also willing to conceed the point that current admissions practices to tend to be be weighted towards the middle-upper class white male.
-jerdenn
(I'll believe it when I see it).
The FBI is sharing information regarding Carnivore with industry at this time to assist them in their efforts to develop open standards for complying with wiretap requirements. The FBI did so two weeks ago, at the request of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) Implementation Section, at an industry standards meeting (the Joint Experts Meeting) which was set up in response to an FCC suggestion to develop standards for Internet interception. [1]
What's interesting in this case is the FBI's press department, and their use of the word 'industry'. Usually, one would assume that they are referring to the 'computer' industry, but here, apparently, they are refering to the 'law enforcement' industry. See the CALEA web site, and you'll understand...
-jerdenn
Looking at the language specs, it appears that C# is Microsoft's answer to the in-between language that many Windows programmers have been asking for some time now. There are some projects that don't really need the power (or complexity) of C++, but VB often overdoes it in the effort to oversimplify and kludge everything together.
I welcome an easier way to program COM/DCOM/COM+ on windows platforms - There are times when I require C++ for its speed and control, but I sacrifice developement time to gain this. A middle ground is much needed.
That having been said, why would we need to port a project to java?
I think the question misunderstands the intended domain for the C# language - A COM-based developement environment.
-jerdenn
If they don't want to sell it to you at the price you just offered, they don't have to. Nothing wrong there.
In exercising its power over interstate commerce, the Congress has enacted two statutes that have the greatest effect on advertising. These are the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Act and the Lanham Act.
The Lanham Act (Commonly referred to as the "Truth in Advertising Act") provides for private actions based on any "false or misleading" description or representation of fact made about the advertiser's own products or services or about another's products or services. The four elements of proof under the Lanham act are "false or misleading" description or representation of fact made in connection with any goods or services in interstate commerce, which actually deceives, or is likely to deceive, a substantial segment of the intended audience; is material (i.e., is likely to influence purchasing decisions); and the falsity results, or is likely to result, in injury to the plaintiff.[1]
While I doubt that anyone would bother to bring action under the Lanham act for misrepresentation based on advertised price, it could make for a valid arguement.
-jerdenn
-jerdenn