The government should be involved because the governments laws have been
broken.
The question is not if we were working for another company. But if those
companies were involved in illegal activity that we were adversely effected by.
You say it is a matter of greed when you in fact have very little information
on this case.
Most of the posts on this forum in fact are stating that contractors make
more money... This is not true in this situation but this is not even the point
of the lawsuit.
Why would we go through the trouble of a lawsuit that we may walk away from
with a couple grand if we are lucky?
There is a huge problem gaining momentum in the United States.
How many people do you know that have been excessed.
How many families destroyed due to the movement.
What problems have been caused by NAFTA or by globalizing the economy.
I will not even pretend to know all of the answers.
But this is what I see.
1) The United State is feeling huge economic strains from NAFTA and from
globalization.
2) People all over the place are being forced into minimum wage jobs due to
companies trying to cut the bottom line. Those same companies are reporting
record profits to the stockholders. And some are breaking the law to accomplish
this.
4) The rich just keep getting richer by cutting the bottom line at the
expense of the American worker.
5) Wage freezes and Layoffs are not only happening to the non-contract
workers. They are happening to everyone.
The government has put laws in place to help protect workers from
corporations. In this situation we believe that these laws have been broken. As
you can see in the article linked at the top of this post. Destruction of
evidence was ordered. To me that looks really suspicious in itself. But there is
more to it than just that.
We can only hope to institute a change for the better but the future in not
in our hands.
We believe that what HP has done is illegal and they should be
accountable for that.
Bullshit. These people weren't getting paid
anywhere near the low end of national wage spectrum. It's more a question of
greed than survival
And how do you know this. Do
you know what they make or for that matter what they do?
What about the concept
that they are making in the lower 20% of the national average and they are
working in positions that are lower than the jobs they actually are required to
do.
If I look up my actual job description on salary.com I am making
below that lowest number on my chart.
I know this is true for most of the contractors that I work with. This is not
by any means a question of greed. I know most of the people that signed the
sheet and they did it because the law was clearly broken.
We did not collaborate and go find an attorney. nuf said there chew on it...
I will now shut up before I divulge information I shouldn't.
This is great for you but most of the contractors that I know are not in that situation. They are working for lower pay, little vacation time, have performance reviews without raises to follow them up. And are not contractors by chioce... They have families, homes, and long technical backgrounds. They are forced into accepting the lower wages in order to try to take care of there families. They have no benifits and insurance options that cost them half of thier wages, which are usually 10 to 20% below tha national average. We are not production workers we are engineers, techs, and managers that have watched long term employees be layed of and then come back the next day as a contractors for half the pay because there are no technical jobs out there. We take jobs with contracting agencies because they are are only option next to working for minimum wage and losing everything we own. We are struggling to survive. Most of us have spent several years in the industry and it is all we know. Most of us love the job and we are not looking for a quick buck. We are frustrated with seeing contractors being taken advatage of because of a bad economy.
There are some contractors at HP that have been there for 4 plus years... Also was a contractor for about 10 Years
And yes I am in the class frying pan!
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The government should be involved because the governments laws have been broken.
The question is not if we were working for another company. But if those companies were involved in illegal activity that we were adversely effected by.
You say it is a matter of greed when you in fact have very little information on this case.
Most of the posts on this forum in fact are stating that contractors make more money... This is not true in this situation but this is not even the point of the lawsuit.
Why would we go through the trouble of a lawsuit that we may walk away from with a couple grand if we are lucky?
There is a huge problem gaining momentum in the United States.
How many people do you know that have been excessed.
How many families destroyed due to the movement.
What problems have been caused by NAFTA or by globalizing the economy.
I will not even pretend to know all of the answers.
But this is what I see.
1) The United State is feeling huge economic strains from NAFTA and from globalization.
2) People all over the place are being forced into minimum wage jobs due to companies trying to cut the bottom line. Those same companies are reporting record profits to the stockholders. And some are breaking the law to accomplish this.
4) The rich just keep getting richer by cutting the bottom line at the expense of the American worker.
5) Wage freezes and Layoffs are not only happening to the non-contract workers. They are happening to everyone.
The government has put laws in place to help protect workers from corporations. In this situation we believe that these laws have been broken. As you can see in the article linked at the top of this post. Destruction of evidence was ordered. To me that looks really suspicious in itself. But there is more to it than just that.
We can only hope to institute a change for the better but the future in not in our hands.
We believe that what HP has done is illegal and they should be accountable for that.And how do you know this. Do you know what they make or for that matter what they do?
What about the concept that they are making in the lower 20% of the national average and they are working in positions that are lower than the jobs they actually are required to do.
If I look up my actual job description on salary.com I am making below that lowest number on my chart.
I know this is true for most of the contractors that I work with. This is not by any means a question of greed. I know most of the people that signed the sheet and they did it because the law was clearly broken.
We did not collaborate and go find an attorney. nuf said there chew on it...
I will now shut up before I divulge information I shouldn't.
This is great for you but most of the contractors that I know are not in that situation. They are working for lower pay, little vacation time, have performance reviews without raises to follow them up. And are not contractors by chioce... They have families, homes, and long technical backgrounds. They are forced into accepting the lower wages in order to try to take care of there families. They have no benifits and insurance options that cost them half of thier wages, which are usually 10 to 20% below tha national average. We are not production workers we are engineers, techs, and managers that have watched long term employees be layed of and then come back the next day as a contractors for half the pay because there are no technical jobs out there. We take jobs with contracting agencies because they are are only option next to working for minimum wage and losing everything we own. We are struggling to survive. Most of us have spent several years in the industry and it is all we know. Most of us love the job and we are not looking for a quick buck. We are frustrated with seeing contractors being taken advatage of because of a bad economy.
There are some contractors at HP that have been there for 4 plus years... Also was a contractor for about 10 Years And yes I am in the class frying pan!