You are discounting the role of the United States in Australia during that time period. When the apparatus became mature enough there began a distinct backlash against the covert U.S. funding flowing into Australia. I believe some of the more important parties felt that such meddling equated to their fair Nation still being considered a penal colony by the West.
How would you feel if violent labor unions were being mobilized with foreign cash leading up to elections? Not so good, huh?
couldn't have anything to do with him being an Australian citizen, could it?
my hope for Assange is he fade back into the shadows and learn some people skills (not the same as skills with the ladies, apparently, though by all reports he's pretty crap in bed as well). that's not to say i want him to stop with wikileaks - rather just that he grow up, keep up the good work and not try to own this amazing thing he's created.
the "information wants to be free" mantra does not discriminate. it's all or nothing, and what happens on the internet stays on the internet.
The CIA and FBI does not warn American citizens about honeytraps.
is being spread through Cryptome. The rumor that he is an informant for the Austrlian Federal Police does seem to be backed up by the story about him receiving warnings from Austrlian intelligence about dirty tricks.
This is something worth looking into. Whether or not there is any truth to it or not, it's worth looking into for that reason but also to determine whether or not it is a smear campaign or global conspiracy to break Assange.
What was he thinking? Threatening to sue? Did he really say he "owned" the documents?
This is exactly the problem everyone has with Assange and why Openleaks will replace Wikileaks.
Wikileaks no longer acts as a leak facilitator, it is not a political organization which selects what to leak, when, how. It's no longer a technology that acts like a dumb pipe, it's no longer functioning under network neutrality, it's now controlled top down by God aka Julian Assange.
Wikileaks will be buried a year from now. Openleaks and many other organizations far superior will replace Wikieaks. Assange over estimated his importance.
And I'm not someone who likes leaking in general, but if they are going to facilitate leaks then it has to be a dumb pipe which has no ability of the facilitator to decide what does or does not get leaked, how, or any of that. It should pass through the facilitator technology directly to the news organization, and there should be no interaction between the facilitator organization or it's technology and the sources EVER.
It also isn't the same as say a state run oil company, a state run bank, a state run car company, a state run weapons company. These are companies which take money from the US government out of patriotic duty rather than take it from the Chinese government, because these companies were stated in America and are run by American citizens.
Uh, what? Look, there is no difference between FMC or McDonnell-Douglas or what have you and a state-owned military equipment manufactory, except on paper. Either way the institution is a means of putting tax money from the people in the hands of a few.
Those are military grade weapons companies. Nobody argues that they shouldn't be nationalized or state owned.
We are talking about everything else. China owns a lot more companies and controls a lot more companies than the USA.
Um, okay.In-Q-Tel:In 1999 we chartered... In-Q-Tel.... While we pay the bills, In-Q-Tel is independent of CIA. - George Tenet. I don't know about you, but if someone is paying all of my bills it'd be hard for me to claim independence.
Thats not the same at all. Yes the CIA does have contracts with corporations including In-Q-Tel, but it does not mean the CIA is the only group involved.
It also isn't the same as say a state run oil company, a state run bank, a state run car company, a state run weapons company. These are companies which take money from the US government out of patriotic duty rather than take it from the Chinese government, because these companies were stated in America and are run by American citizens.
Now you look at the Chinese companies started in China, their companies are not just state funded but completely run and controlled by intelligence agencies. Down to the level of the employees being agents.
I'm not saying the CIA doesn't do this, I'm saying China does it as routine while in the USA you have to look hard to find rare exceptions like In-Q-Tel.
Not if it that means they are declared traitors, along with complete seizure of assets. The EU and the US have plenty of weapons to put China back in its place, behind the world.
It's not that easy. Chinese agents could be anywhere and in any family. Many prominent powerful elite families might be controlled by Chinese intelligence, and these families will be used to prevent these sorts of laws from being made.
Thats because they are federal officials. If they have clearance of course the government trusts them, the government knows every little detail about their life.
You may be confusing "they have every little detail about their life" with the more generic and less useful "they have a lot of arbitrary data about their life".
If there is something a government is good at, it's making you fill in endless forms of data that is neither conclusive, neither guaranteed verified, and in the end rarely useful.
If the government could easily know every little detail of the life of government officials, it'd be quite hard to explain the constant stream of corruption schemes discovered around the country, often randomly, accidentally, and years after the fact.
Until recently, pilots of airplanes themselves had to be scanned every time before flight. You'd think if you trust someone to operate what's basically a giant winged bomb full of people, you might as well trust him not wear a bomb in his pants.
What you see is rather a simple after-effect of basic human psychology and lack of public control. Left to their own devices, lawmakers see the world as any human would: me, us, and them. Me is me, I trust myself. Us are my colleagues and the people who fund my campaigns. Them is everyone else.
As it goes, inconveniencing "us" is a big problem as we have serious work to do, which we know in detail and we discuss in corridors every day. That's ok, because we know each other and you can trust "us".
While "them", a quick scan and grope shouldn't really harm "them" much, especially considering you can't trust "them".
FBI has files on every politician. Government does not trust politicians and trusts it's officials nd employees the least.
It's been going on since the 80s at least as far as I've been alive. Japanese companies were the big threat back then and were using sneak techniques to conduct a covert hostile takeover.
It's what we should expect from any nation state. They want to steal American technology, business, control of industry, etc. They also want to steal jobs.
And the only thing they'll accomplish is they'll force China to use it's covert/secret agents to buy European tech companies. If China wants to buy a company nobody and nothing can stop it. They'll have their European shell company set up with their puppet CEO who will covertly buy the company in the name of China. Then years later China will overtly take control.
Thats because they are federal officials. If they have clearance of course the government trusts them, the government knows every little detail about their life.
It's just those lobbyists and congressmen have already been investigated for years before they became lobbyists or congressmen. They already made the list 10, 15, 20 years ago.
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Exactly. It doesn't matter how an idea sounds. If it's right then it's right.
John Hagelin developed the supersymmetric flipped SU(5) model of Grand Unified Theory.
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/178057/files/198706298.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuKBInwQRU&feature=related
According to John Hagelin, consciousness is the unified field.
If you want to make sense of the Unified Field and you want to know who John Hagelin is, you can learn about it by watching these series of YouTube videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuKBlnwQRU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcWntw9juM&feature=related
I also want to say John Wheeler had the right idea with the Anthropic Principle.
You are discounting the role of the United States in Australia during that time period. When the apparatus became mature enough there began a distinct backlash against the covert U.S. funding flowing into Australia. I believe some of the more important parties felt that such meddling equated to their fair Nation still being considered a penal colony by the West.
How would you feel if violent labor unions were being mobilized with foreign cash leading up to elections? Not so good, huh?
Foreign cash is influencing US elections too.
couldn't have anything to do with him being an Australian citizen, could it?
my hope for Assange is he fade back into the shadows and learn some people skills (not the same as skills with the ladies, apparently, though by all reports he's pretty crap in bed as well). that's not to say i want him to stop with wikileaks - rather just that he grow up, keep up the good work and not try to own this amazing thing he's created.
the "information wants to be free" mantra does not discriminate. it's all or nothing, and what happens on the internet stays on the internet.
The CIA and FBI does not warn American citizens about honeytraps.
is being spread through Cryptome. The rumor that he is an informant for the Austrlian Federal Police does seem to be backed up by the story about him receiving warnings from Austrlian intelligence about dirty tricks.
This is something worth looking into. Whether or not there is any truth to it or not, it's worth looking into for that reason but also to determine whether or not it is a smear campaign or global conspiracy to break Assange.
What was he thinking? Threatening to sue? Did he really say he "owned" the documents?
This is exactly the problem everyone has with Assange and why Openleaks will replace Wikileaks.
Wikileaks no longer acts as a leak facilitator, it is not a political organization which selects what to leak, when, how. It's no longer a technology that acts like a dumb pipe, it's no longer functioning under network neutrality, it's now controlled top down by God aka Julian Assange.
Wikileaks will be buried a year from now. Openleaks and many other organizations far superior will replace Wikieaks. Assange over estimated his importance.
And I'm not someone who likes leaking in general, but if they are going to facilitate leaks then it has to be a dumb pipe which has no ability of the facilitator to decide what does or does not get leaked, how, or any of that. It should pass through the facilitator technology directly to the news organization, and there should be no interaction between the facilitator organization or it's technology and the sources EVER.
It also isn't the same as say a state run oil company, a state run bank, a state run car company, a state run weapons company. These are companies which take money from the US government out of patriotic duty rather than take it from the Chinese government, because these companies were stated in America and are run by American citizens.
Uh, what? Look, there is no difference between FMC or McDonnell-Douglas or what have you and a state-owned military equipment manufactory, except on paper. Either way the institution is a means of putting tax money from the people in the hands of a few.
Those are military grade weapons companies. Nobody argues that they shouldn't be nationalized or state owned.
We are talking about everything else. China owns a lot more companies and controls a lot more companies than the USA.
Um, okay. In-Q-Tel:In 1999 we chartered ... In-Q-Tel. ... While we pay the bills, In-Q-Tel is independent of CIA. - George Tenet. I don't know about you, but if someone is paying all of my bills it'd be hard for me to claim independence.
Thats not the same at all. Yes the CIA does have contracts with corporations including In-Q-Tel, but it does not mean the CIA is the only group involved.
It also isn't the same as say a state run oil company, a state run bank, a state run car company, a state run weapons company. These are companies which take money from the US government out of patriotic duty rather than take it from the Chinese government, because these companies were stated in America and are run by American citizens.
Now you look at the Chinese companies started in China, their companies are not just state funded but completely run and controlled by intelligence agencies. Down to the level of the employees being agents.
I'm not saying the CIA doesn't do this, I'm saying China does it as routine while in the USA you have to look hard to find rare exceptions like In-Q-Tel.
In China, India, and those other countries.
What corporations are state owned US intelligence agency backed corporations? Name some.
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Not if it that means they are declared traitors, along with complete seizure of assets. The EU and the US have plenty of weapons to put China back in its place, behind the world.
It's not that easy. Chinese agents could be anywhere and in any family. Many prominent powerful elite families might be controlled by Chinese intelligence, and these families will be used to prevent these sorts of laws from being made.
How will they know which citizens and CEO's are China? A loyalty test?
I see. So any foreigner coming to invest 10 million in your country is a conspiracy. That's like, what? 0.001% of your country's GDP?
They aren't coming to invest in our country, they are coming to buy, bribe, write laws, ship jobs overseas, and divide and conquer our country.
Thats because they are federal officials. If they have clearance of course the government trusts them, the government knows every little detail about their life.
You may be confusing "they have every little detail about their life" with the more generic and less useful "they have a lot of arbitrary data about their life".
If there is something a government is good at, it's making you fill in endless forms of data that is neither conclusive, neither guaranteed verified, and in the end rarely useful.
If the government could easily know every little detail of the life of government officials, it'd be quite hard to explain the constant stream of corruption schemes discovered around the country, often randomly, accidentally, and years after the fact.
Until recently, pilots of airplanes themselves had to be scanned every time before flight. You'd think if you trust someone to operate what's basically a giant winged bomb full of people, you might as well trust him not wear a bomb in his pants.
What you see is rather a simple after-effect of basic human psychology and lack of public control. Left to their own devices, lawmakers see the world as any human would: me, us, and them. Me is me, I trust myself. Us are my colleagues and the people who fund my campaigns. Them is everyone else.
As it goes, inconveniencing "us" is a big problem as we have serious work to do, which we know in detail and we discuss in corridors every day. That's ok, because we know each other and you can trust "us".
While "them", a quick scan and grope shouldn't really harm "them" much, especially considering you can't trust "them".
FBI has files on every politician. Government does not trust politicians and trusts it's officials nd employees the least.
It's been going on since the 80s at least as far as I've been alive. Japanese companies were the big threat back then and were using sneak techniques to conduct a covert hostile takeover.
It's what we should expect from any nation state. They want to steal American technology, business, control of industry, etc. They also want to steal jobs.
China is supposed to do everything to become number 1.
Since when did Americans become such wimps? Every nation cheats to win. It's called espionage.
And the only thing they'll accomplish is they'll force China to use it's covert/secret agents to buy European tech companies. If China wants to buy a company nobody and nothing can stop it. They'll have their European shell company set up with their puppet CEO who will covertly buy the company in the name of China. Then years later China will overtly take control.
It's called a hostile takeover.
Thats because they are federal officials. If they have clearance of course the government trusts them, the government knows every little detail about their life.
It's just those lobbyists and congressmen have already been investigated for years before they became lobbyists or congressmen. They already made the list 10, 15, 20 years ago.
You can almost be certain congress wont be Republican under Palin.
The President has power but not as much power as you seem to believe.
Will go sharply to the Democrats, else you'll see complete chaos. It's a gamble which will probably pay off.
If she were to win the election, that is what I'd predict would happen.
This is why she wont win, or if she does win it will still shake things up.
What I don't know is how the dice will roll. Neither do Republicans, and thats why she wont win.
Because your ethics aren't based on winning.