Insulting people by accusing them of insulting people, ironic at best if not hypocritical.
Also 'a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users.' doesn't really make any sense in this context. I know it's just flamebait, but it would be more interesting if you put some thought into it..
Ah, a fine display of the fraternal feelings amongst the Android community. See, they're not just a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users. They'll also call you names if you bought a different model of Android phone that they don't approve of.
I have a Nexus One, the orphaned device. I bought it because it was an open phone with an open OS, released under the Apache license. As of 3.0 the OS is proprietary. I guess I won't be updating it any more since the only dev team is under NDA working on closed source.
As of version 3.0 they have said they are releasing under a closed license, at least that's whet the Wikipedia page says.
Yes, the Apache model allows that, but the point is, it's no longer open source. So as of now they have left the party. Promises aren't worth spit. The fact of the matter is that at this point in time Google is not developing an open source phone operating system.
I bought a nexus one because they said they were. And now I'm pissed, yes.
Google has explained why they didn't release Honeycomb and they've committed to releasing the source for ICS soon after phones running ICS have been released. Ignorant troll is Ignorant.
Excuses are just that, excuses, the point is they haven't released it.
I may forgive them if and when they release ICS, in the meantime, I'm not a troll. I'm a noid.
I think the article is missing another key factor - the fact that people abuse the system to their benefit.
Precisely.
The model would work better if you didn't allow people to commit fraud. The fact that the article completely ignores the rampant mortgage loan fraud that perpetrated the collapse pretty much renders renders it down to manure.
Suppose I know some amount (X) of C now (Just out of college)
Will that be less valuable after having 2 years experience in the field?
If you haven't learned anything new in your first two years as a professional c programmer, you might want to try another discipline.
If I haven't learned anything new in any particular two year period, I get bored. Best option there is to either shake something up with my current venue, or quit.
... To jump into the market this late in the game Nokia/Microsoft need something new, something to pull people away from their established preferences.
15 years ago the only phone I would buy was a Nokia. The phones worked well and the interface was intuitive. Now they don't even hit my radar.
I think we are about to witness the death of a giant.
Because android is a race to the bottom where the phones become commodities and any no name manufacturer in china can duplicate your r&d for next to nothing. There is no money to be made in android.
True enough, meaning that smart phones in general are now a commodity.
In other words, Android phones will become very inexpensive killing off all non-fanboi competition until someone comes up with a device that is enough of an advancement in function or design to command a premium.
iPhones will have to either drop to a competitive price or sales will plummet, but Apple has a loyal customer base, so they will survive.
Windows phones don't have market share, once again Ballmer is late to the party. They will have to be very very good or very very inexpensive to compete. Neither is likely.
It will be interesting to see what Apple does next, sans Steve.
I'm still slightly confused. "None" "0" "null design patterns" "undefined" "None option types" still sound like names for the same concept. Why is one solution better than another?
They are different things. We were talking about booleans, I'm of the opinion that you have to decide that it matters or it doesn't.
If want strict typing, then booleans should be 'true' 'false' or an exception should be thrown.
If you don't want strict typing, then an empty string, NULL null, 0, None, undefined, and false or any other concept of nothing that you might have in your language should evaluate to false.
I think you mean creator or inventor. It's not like the Lisp programming language was just sat out in the wilds of Chile under a rock waiting to be found by an archaeologist.
Actually it was found in a cave in the Pyranees. LISP originally stood for Lost In Spanish Passageways. It was used by early cave men for catching fish. They drew it on the walls carefully concealing the syntax in pictures of Auroks and it remained totally undeciphered for approximately 200,000 years. John McCarthy wandered into a cave after having eaten some soup made from a prehistoric fungus that grows in the area. He was found days later practising tai chi in a nearby stream and went on to write the first modern day LISP interpreter.
In other words: You either have NULL or you have Null; That, or you have null...
Or 0, which should evaluate to false. Unless everything that is not true or false throws an exception where a boolean is required, which would be fine.
Then there is undefined, which I will not attempt to define.
>/dev/null
With IE=8 still have 1/3 of browser marketshare, they'll have a fun time pushing Dart into lead with either "please, please, install our plugin"
LOL! You can get Chrome as an IE plugin.
I've been writing stuff that runs on anything but IE for the last 6 years, it's a pleasure. Who gives a fuck about IE?
1/3 market share means that it's primarily being used by people that run multiple browsers. I use them all, IE only for lame company proprietary stuff. The rest are at the bottom of the food chain, they don't know how to switch and no one feels sorry for them.
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We are all aliens, could be illegal too.
Which is why the Vogons only posted the notice at AlphaCentauri a century ago. We aren't supposed to be here anyway.
Great. Now it's just a question of how long it will be before we go to war with Betelgeuse.
Let's send Hillary.
Insulting people by accusing them of insulting people, ironic at best if not hypocritical.
Also 'a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users.' doesn't really make any sense in this context. I know it's just flamebait, but it would be more interesting if you put some thought into it..
Ah, a fine display of the fraternal feelings amongst the Android community. See, they're not just a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users. They'll also call you names if you bought a different model of Android phone that they don't approve of.
Get called a hypocrite much?
I have a Nexus One, the orphaned device. I bought it because it was an open phone with an open OS, released under the Apache license. As of 3.0 the OS is proprietary. I guess I won't be updating it any more since the only dev team is under NDA working on closed source.
Doing things you don't like, doesn't mean it's evil.
They released Android under an apache license.
As of version 3.0 they have said they are releasing under a closed license, at least that's whet the Wikipedia page says.
Yes, the Apache model allows that, but the point is, it's no longer open source. So as of now they have left the party. Promises aren't worth spit. The fact of the matter is that at this point in time Google is not developing an open source phone operating system.
I bought a nexus one because they said they were. And now I'm pissed, yes.
Google has explained why they didn't release Honeycomb and they've committed to releasing the source for ICS soon after phones running ICS have been released. Ignorant troll is Ignorant.
Excuses are just that, excuses, the point is they haven't released it.
I may forgive them if and when they release ICS, in the meantime, I'm not a troll. I'm a noid.
If they would publish the source, it wouldn't matter. But they don't.
And yes, that IS evil.
and I don't believe that Haakon last name is "On"
Neither does he. He thinks his name is God.
I think the article is missing another key factor - the fact that people abuse the system to their benefit.
Precisely.
The model would work better if you didn't allow people to commit fraud. The fact that the article completely ignores the rampant mortgage loan fraud that perpetrated the collapse pretty much renders renders it down to manure.
Suppose I know some amount (X) of C now (Just out of college) Will that be less valuable after having 2 years experience in the field?
If you haven't learned anything new in your first two years as a professional c programmer, you might want to try another discipline.
If I haven't learned anything new in any particular two year period, I get bored. Best option there is to either shake something up with my current venue, or quit.
15 years ago the only phone I would buy was a Nokia. The phones worked well and the interface was intuitive. Now they don't even hit my radar.
I think we are about to witness the death of a giant.
Because android is a race to the bottom where the phones become commodities and any no name manufacturer in china can duplicate your r&d for next to nothing. There is no money to be made in android.
True enough, meaning that smart phones in general are now a commodity.
In other words, Android phones will become very inexpensive killing off all non-fanboi competition until someone comes up with a device that is enough of an advancement in function or design to command a premium.
iPhones will have to either drop to a competitive price or sales will plummet, but Apple has a loyal customer base, so they will survive.
Windows phones don't have market share, once again Ballmer is late to the party. They will have to be very very good or very very inexpensive to compete. Neither is likely.
It will be interesting to see what Apple does next, sans Steve.
I'm still slightly confused. "None" "0" "null design patterns" "undefined" "None option types" still sound like names for the same concept. Why is one solution better than another?
They are different things. We were talking about booleans, I'm of the opinion that you have to decide that it matters or it doesn't.
If want strict typing, then booleans should be 'true' 'false' or an exception should be thrown.
If you don't want strict typing, then an empty string, NULL null, 0, None, undefined, and false or any other concept of nothing that you might have in your language should evaluate to false.
Anything in between is a nonsensical hack.
a coronal mass ejection (CME) slammed into the Earth's magnetosphere. Tsingi makes some popcorn...
I think you mean creator or inventor. It's not like the Lisp programming language was just sat out in the wilds of Chile under a rock waiting to be found by an archaeologist.
Actually it was found in a cave in the Pyranees. LISP originally stood for Lost In Spanish Passageways. It was used by early cave men for catching fish. They drew it on the walls carefully concealing the syntax in pictures of Auroks and it remained totally undeciphered for approximately 200,000 years. John McCarthy wandered into a cave after having eaten some soup made from a prehistoric fungus that grows in the area. He was found days later practising tai chi in a nearby stream and went on to write the first modern day LISP interpreter.
He was 84. The life expectancy for US males is 76.
And dropping.
Otherwise, no matter what your pitch is, I simply don't need it.
OK.
Shit, you think Slashdot has a fucking profanity filter??
People keep saying that, I think what it means is that they either can't be bothered to, or just can't, write what they actually think in English.
If there was a profanity filter this place would be much less interesting.
Take a look at Scala. It very effectively does away with null.
The major way it does this, is by introducing the Option type. An Option can be either Some(value) or None.
None is what Python uses for null.
In other words: You either have NULL or you have Null; That, or you have null...
Or 0, which should evaluate to false. Unless everything that is not true or false throws an exception where a boolean is required, which would be fine. /dev/null
Then there is undefined, which I will not attempt to define. >
Dart means Dublin Area Rapid Transit.
I lost my umbrella on it, if anyone finds it, I'd like it back.
With IE=8 still have 1/3 of browser marketshare, they'll have a fun time pushing Dart into lead with either "please, please, install our plugin"
LOL! You can get Chrome as an IE plugin.
I've been writing stuff that runs on anything but IE for the last 6 years, it's a pleasure. Who gives a fuck about IE?
1/3 market share means that it's primarily being used by people that run multiple browsers. I use them all, IE only for lame company proprietary stuff. The rest are at the bottom of the food chain, they don't know how to switch and no one feels sorry for them.
.Net takes just as long to fire up an application on my box as Java does.
MS didn't get away with making Java proprietary, why do you think .Net exists? It's modelled on Java.
Oh Jesus fucking Christ! ...
+1 Funny
+1 Blasphemy
+1 for pissing yourself
+2 for admitting it