Comparing lighttpd + fastcgi rails to tomcat is just retarded. That's the fastest rails configuration vs one of the slowest java configurations. Tomcat is a very slow reference implimentation, java web apps are almost never deployed using tomcat. Repeat the benchmark using a reasonably performing java server (resin is free and fast) and then compare numbers.
Matz is well aware of the speed problems, and unlike ruby zealots is at least willing to admit that its a problem, and plans to make ruby2's performance competitive with perl and python.
Yes, SSL and SSH are vulnerable to MITM attacks if used incorectly. This is not news, and has been known for years. Trying to pretend this is new and interesting and "easily crackable" is dishonest.
I didn't say using gui tools made you stupid. I said complaining that the underlying configuration is using config files is stupid. Config files allows people who want to use a gui to use one, and people who need to alter many configs on many machines automatically to be able to do that too. Stupid isn't using a gui, stupid is complaining because you aren't forced to use a gui.
Don't forget you got modded insightful, so there's more than two. So, how about this funny joke:
ClosedSource: I eat testicles with mustard, and they are delicious.
Oh, wait that's not a joke? Just a made up statement that has no basis in reality, like your "joke"? Maybe more people would recognize your jokes if you learned what a joke is.
1) Windows has multiple software installation/uninstallation methods, and with lots of them, it doesn't actually fully uninstall the software like linux package managers do. And dependancy hell is a symptom of someone to lazy to read the rpm documentation, not a problem with rpm. And windows of course has dll hell.
2)You don't have to use source, at all, ever. Just use a normal distro instead of gentoo. Just because you have a choice, doesn't mean you can complain about the choice you don't want, when the choice you do want is still there.
3)You can, alt+tab works fine.
4)Ati cards work fine, I'm using one. And if you want your shitty intel video to work, tell intel to stop being retarded and trying to keep their outdated and crappy technology secret for no reason, or release a linux driver like nvidia and ati did.
6)Yep, linux documentation sucks huge donkey balls, sorta like windows documentation. So use a BSD instead.
7)There are graphical tools to let you configure everything you could configure in windows, so use a distro that comes with them. Those of us who aren't stupid like the ability to edit config files from scripts, copy them around to other machines, etc.
8)If you choose not to use a system based on the fact that some of the people who use it are cocktards, then you will not be able to use anything, ever. Better not drive a car, there's bound to be someone out there you don't like with the same make of car.
9)Again, linux documentation sucks, this is one of its biggest flaws. But again, its just as bad with windows.
So all in all you end up with 2 valid complaints, linux has terrible documentation, and there is no required graphical library so every app looks the same. Both these problems exist in windows as well. Try applying the same standards you apply to linux for a change, and you'll realize windows is just as unusable as linux is.
Geek #1: Windows really sucks! Geek #2: I know what you mean. Only an MCSE would use Windows and you know how dumb they are. Geek #3: I just read on Slashdot that you could upgrade Windows XP home to professional by just changing a few bytes. Geeks #4 and #5: Sweet, how do you do it?
You did realize that slashdot is not just two people right? And maybe, just maybe, the people who don't like windows and the people who want to know how to do this are in fact, not the same people.
This doesn't measure how many servers are running what OS, it measures how many servers were purchased from select vendors with which OS. BSD is dead bullshit doesn't factor into it because the select vendors in question do not sell BSD. People buy the servers and then install BSD themselves. Its also pretty safe to assume that linux is actually higher than 10% if you start counting servers where people got no OS and installed their distro of choice instead of the single outdated option usually available from a vendor.
My first ever experience with LDAP was with openldap, and it took 10 minutes to configure, and then maybe an hour to work out how I wanted my schema, and write an ldif of it to import. Unless it used to be significantly different than it is now, I can't see any way anyone could think its hard to configure.
No, my post said that using the money from their monopoly in the OS market to sell a product at a loss in another market is the problem. Read it, that really is what it says, and everyone who can read english can see this, including you.
Being too fucking dense to read what you are replying to is bad enough, but being so arrogant as to pretend you are being ignored because you aren't participating in group think is beyond rediculous. Wake up, nobody wants to try to converse with someone who will only ignore what they say and continue arguing with straw men and red herrings.
You decided based on your own twisted view of the world that I am some anti-MS crusader. This is obvious from you complaining about "people like me" using a dollar sign in MS, despite me not doing that, and telling me to complain about Sony, when Sony isn't doing what MS is.
And just so you know, I hate Sony. They have a hidden control panel in their monitors (at least some models) that you can only access using a special cable and special software, which of course only sony authorized repair centers can get. So if there is a power surge and your monitors contrast gets set WAY too high (above what you can even set with the user control panel) then you have to pay $250 for some overpaid fuckstick to plug in a cable and press "reset to factory settings" on this gay software. While I am not a huge fan of MS, because of this monitor scam I outright despise Sony.
But that doesn't change the fact that MS is a convicted monopolist using money from a monopoly that has held PC technology back for years to push their way into a new market with a product that loses money. Why would you expect everyone to be complaining about Sony when they aren't doing this, and MS is?
Nowhere does it claim that the PS2 was cheaper than a DVD player, BECAUSE ITS NOT TRUE. Just that people over 30 bought it *mostly* for movies, and that DVD players were more expensive in japan than the states. See, people bought it because it wasn't much more expensive than a DVD player they would have bought anyways, and they could still play the occasional game on it.
And if you read the article you posted, the doom and gloom predictions were because the PS2 didn't have much for games at launch, and there were component shortages so they couldn't produce as many as they wanted. They made money on PS2s, and wanted to make more but couldn't because they couldn't make enough of them.
And of course the 4 games is a random number that was chosen for that particular rumor, which was about the xbox. What does the article have to do with anything, it doesn't mention this rumor. People claimed various things about how much MS was losing per xbox, but the fact is they never said how much they lose, just that it loses money, therefore its a rumor.
My post was specifically saying that MS DOES HAVE A MONOPOLY, and that not managing to take over a totally seperate market on their first product doesn't magically remove the monopolies they do have in other markets.
If you don't agree with what I said, feel free to make some claim to the contrary. But simply ignoring what I said makes me ignore you.
The PS2 was most certainly not a cheap DVD player in japan, it wasn't even a cheap DVD player in north america. You could already get a DVD player for less when it launched in japan, and when it launched in north america.
And the random rumor you are quoting was that MS needed to sell 4 games to make a profit, not sony. Sony learned the painful lesson about crappy launch titles because nobody bought PS2's at launch, not because people bought them as DVD players.
And I explained clearly that MS has a monopoly in the PC OS market. Then I complained that they are using that to try to take over another market. I didn't say that's what makes them have a monopoly, I said they already have the monopoly, and are now abusing it to push into other markets.
And you certainly could say that about sony, if they had sold the playstation or ps2 for a loss, but they didn't
The ps2 and gamecube both made money at first, and are at least sold at cost now. It was just the xbox that was sold for much less than it cost to make.
Just because MS doesn't have a monopoly in every single market (yet), doesn't mean they don't have a monopoly. The problem with the xbox is that they are using the billions of dollars they made from their OS monopoly to push their way into other markets.
The GC is still not sold at a loss, the PS3's video is from ATI, not nVidia, and Sega did make money on consoles at one point. Then they decided to release 3 or 4 consoles nobody wants per year, that is what put them where they are now.
And slashdot sucks for putting in captchas for logged in users.
If I post "its good that linux is still going" in a linux thread will I get modded up for that? And "BSD" isn't still going, the last release was 4.4BSD lite way back when. There are a few different OS's based on that code, they each have their own names, their own developers, their own goals, and they aren't all going to magically die all at the same time somehow.
You aren't supposed to run the disklabel program, so it would be pretty dumb if the installer told you to. The installer asks you simple questions, you answer them. It runs disklabel for you.
Perhaps you were intoxicated when you tried to install openbsd? Read the walkthrough I linked to, its very straightforward.
Why doesn't the installer tell you what? If the very simple and easy installation is too hard for you, then follow along with the walkthrough on the inside of the cd case, or print the instructions from the website before you start.
That has nothing at all to do with disklabel, does it? Disklabel is where you create partitions and set their mount points. Fdisk is where you create a slice for your partitions to live in (a DOS partition). Obviously cfdisk isn't going to be there, its not linux. And if you can't follow these simple directions: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Disks then nobody is really going to care that you can't manage an install.
If people who have never used unix before can do it on their first try with no help just by reading the simple directions, then perhaps the simple directions are good enough.
No, openbsd has linux binary compatability.
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Which means you can run linux binaries. It doesn't mean the openbsd kernel can load and use linux kernel modules.
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Comparing lighttpd + fastcgi rails to tomcat is just retarded. That's the fastest rails configuration vs one of the slowest java configurations. Tomcat is a very slow reference implimentation, java web apps are almost never deployed using tomcat. Repeat the benchmark using a reasonably performing java server (resin is free and fast) and then compare numbers.
Matz is well aware of the speed problems, and unlike ruby zealots is at least willing to admit that its a problem, and plans to make ruby2's performance competitive with perl and python.
Yes, SSL and SSH are vulnerable to MITM attacks if used incorectly. This is not news, and has been known for years. Trying to pretend this is new and interesting and "easily crackable" is dishonest.
I didn't say using gui tools made you stupid. I said complaining that the underlying configuration is using config files is stupid. Config files allows people who want to use a gui to use one, and people who need to alter many configs on many machines automatically to be able to do that too. Stupid isn't using a gui, stupid is complaining because you aren't forced to use a gui.
Don't forget you got modded insightful, so there's more than two. So, how about this funny joke:
ClosedSource: I eat testicles with mustard, and they are delicious.
Oh, wait that's not a joke? Just a made up statement that has no basis in reality, like your "joke"? Maybe more people would recognize your jokes if you learned what a joke is.
1) Windows has multiple software installation/uninstallation methods, and with lots of them, it doesn't actually fully uninstall the software like linux package managers do. And dependancy hell is a symptom of someone to lazy to read the rpm documentation, not a problem with rpm. And windows of course has dll hell.
2)You don't have to use source, at all, ever. Just use a normal distro instead of gentoo. Just because you have a choice, doesn't mean you can complain about the choice you don't want, when the choice you do want is still there.
3)You can, alt+tab works fine.
4)Ati cards work fine, I'm using one. And if you want your shitty intel video to work, tell intel to stop being retarded and trying to keep their outdated and crappy technology secret for no reason, or release a linux driver like nvidia and ati did.
6)Yep, linux documentation sucks huge donkey balls, sorta like windows documentation. So use a BSD instead.
7)There are graphical tools to let you configure everything you could configure in windows, so use a distro that comes with them. Those of us who aren't stupid like the ability to edit config files from scripts, copy them around to other machines, etc.
8)If you choose not to use a system based on the fact that some of the people who use it are cocktards, then you will not be able to use anything, ever. Better not drive a car, there's bound to be someone out there you don't like with the same make of car.
9)Again, linux documentation sucks, this is one of its biggest flaws. But again, its just as bad with windows.
So all in all you end up with 2 valid complaints, linux has terrible documentation, and there is no required graphical library so every app looks the same. Both these problems exist in windows as well. Try applying the same standards you apply to linux for a change, and you'll realize windows is just as unusable as linux is.
It should be more like this:
Geek #1: Windows really sucks!
Geek #2: I know what you mean. Only an MCSE would use Windows and you know how dumb they are.
Geek #3: I just read on Slashdot that you could upgrade Windows XP home to professional by just changing a few bytes.
Geeks #4 and #5: Sweet, how do you do it?
You did realize that slashdot is not just two people right? And maybe, just maybe, the people who don't like windows and the people who want to know how to do this are in fact, not the same people.
This doesn't measure how many servers are running what OS, it measures how many servers were purchased from select vendors with which OS. BSD is dead bullshit doesn't factor into it because the select vendors in question do not sell BSD. People buy the servers and then install BSD themselves. Its also pretty safe to assume that linux is actually higher than 10% if you start counting servers where people got no OS and installed their distro of choice instead of the single outdated option usually available from a vendor.
My first ever experience with LDAP was with openldap, and it took 10 minutes to configure, and then maybe an hour to work out how I wanted my schema, and write an ldif of it to import. Unless it used to be significantly different than it is now, I can't see any way anyone could think its hard to configure.
No, my post said that using the money from their monopoly in the OS market to sell a product at a loss in another market is the problem. Read it, that really is what it says, and everyone who can read english can see this, including you.
Being too fucking dense to read what you are replying to is bad enough, but being so arrogant as to pretend you are being ignored because you aren't participating in group think is beyond rediculous. Wake up, nobody wants to try to converse with someone who will only ignore what they say and continue arguing with straw men and red herrings.
You decided based on your own twisted view of the world that I am some anti-MS crusader. This is obvious from you complaining about "people like me" using a dollar sign in MS, despite me not doing that, and telling me to complain about Sony, when Sony isn't doing what MS is.
And just so you know, I hate Sony. They have a hidden control panel in their monitors (at least some models) that you can only access using a special cable and special software, which of course only sony authorized repair centers can get. So if there is a power surge and your monitors contrast gets set WAY too high (above what you can even set with the user control panel) then you have to pay $250 for some overpaid fuckstick to plug in a cable and press "reset to factory settings" on this gay software. While I am not a huge fan of MS, because of this monitor scam I outright despise Sony.
But that doesn't change the fact that MS is a convicted monopolist using money from a monopoly that has held PC technology back for years to push their way into a new market with a product that loses money. Why would you expect everyone to be complaining about Sony when they aren't doing this, and MS is?
All three consoles were going to have ATI GPUs at one point. Guess I should have read the ps3 bullshit from E3.
Nowhere does it claim that the PS2 was cheaper than a DVD player, BECAUSE ITS NOT TRUE. Just that people over 30 bought it *mostly* for movies, and that DVD players were more expensive in japan than the states. See, people bought it because it wasn't much more expensive than a DVD player they would have bought anyways, and they could still play the occasional game on it.
And if you read the article you posted, the doom and gloom predictions were because the PS2 didn't have much for games at launch, and there were component shortages so they couldn't produce as many as they wanted. They made money on PS2s, and wanted to make more but couldn't because they couldn't make enough of them.
And of course the 4 games is a random number that was chosen for that particular rumor, which was about the xbox. What does the article have to do with anything, it doesn't mention this rumor. People claimed various things about how much MS was losing per xbox, but the fact is they never said how much they lose, just that it loses money, therefore its a rumor.
My post was specifically saying that MS DOES HAVE A MONOPOLY, and that not managing to take over a totally seperate market on their first product doesn't magically remove the monopolies they do have in other markets.
If you don't agree with what I said, feel free to make some claim to the contrary. But simply ignoring what I said makes me ignore you.
The PS2 was most certainly not a cheap DVD player in japan, it wasn't even a cheap DVD player in north america. You could already get a DVD player for less when it launched in japan, and when it launched in north america.
And the random rumor you are quoting was that MS needed to sell 4 games to make a profit, not sony. Sony learned the painful lesson about crappy launch titles because nobody bought PS2's at launch, not because people bought them as DVD players.
And I explained clearly that MS has a monopoly in the PC OS market. Then I complained that they are using that to try to take over another market. I didn't say that's what makes them have a monopoly, I said they already have the monopoly, and are now abusing it to push into other markets.
And you certainly could say that about sony, if they had sold the playstation or ps2 for a loss, but they didn't
The ps2 and gamecube both made money at first, and are at least sold at cost now. It was just the xbox that was sold for much less than it cost to make.
Just because MS doesn't have a monopoly in every single market (yet), doesn't mean they don't have a monopoly. The problem with the xbox is that they are using the billions of dollars they made from their OS monopoly to push their way into other markets.
The GC is still not sold at a loss, the PS3's video is from ATI, not nVidia, and Sega did make money on consoles at one point. Then they decided to release 3 or 4 consoles nobody wants per year, that is what put them where they are now.
And slashdot sucks for putting in captchas for logged in users.
I thought I was bad about sticking computer/unix/programming stuff into "normal" conversation, but even I've never confused sed for said.
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It sucks nuts as a game, but was still worth it for the extra episode.
If I post "its good that linux is still going" in a linux thread will I get modded up for that? And "BSD" isn't still going, the last release was 4.4BSD lite way back when. There are a few different OS's based on that code, they each have their own names, their own developers, their own goals, and they aren't all going to magically die all at the same time somehow.
You aren't supposed to run the disklabel program, so it would be pretty dumb if the installer told you to. The installer asks you simple questions, you answer them. It runs disklabel for you.
Perhaps you were intoxicated when you tried to install openbsd? Read the walkthrough I linked to, its very straightforward.
Why doesn't the installer tell you what? If the very simple and easy installation is too hard for you, then follow along with the walkthrough on the inside of the cd case, or print the instructions from the website before you start.
That has nothing at all to do with disklabel, does it? Disklabel is where you create partitions and set their mount points. Fdisk is where you create a slice for your partitions to live in (a DOS partition). Obviously cfdisk isn't going to be there, its not linux. And if you can't follow these simple directions: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Disks then nobody is really going to care that you can't manage an install.
If people who have never used unix before can do it on their first try with no help just by reading the simple directions, then perhaps the simple directions are good enough.
Which means you can run linux binaries. It doesn't mean the openbsd kernel can load and use linux kernel modules.