calling it "homebrew" does a grave disservice to the ideal of actually have access to products customers own.
you paid for the cpu inside the machine. you paid for the sound and graphics processors inside the plastic case (including the case). you paid for the tft lcd screen. you paid for the circuit board and the memory chips.
the gall it must take for hardware manufacturers to deny use of aforementioned items... and the utter stupidity and uninform-edness of customers who think this is a good thing or somehow benefits them...
wake up before it's too late!!!
you have EVERY RIGHT to use the processors to run any code you wish!! this has NOTHING to do with copyright infringement, so don't let the losers who bring that up get in your way.
this is outrageously illegal and immoral not to mention unethical. don't put up with this crap.
their business model is of NO CONCERN to customers. if they have to "rent" their machines under the guise of selling products, then their business licenses need to be revoked. they are not benefitting the public, the reason that businesses are !allowed! to exist in the first place.
but most people aren't even remotely aware of the sitation... so please pass on this and all information regarding customers' rights on to people you know.
HELP spread the word, please. the right to read and the right to own property are vital...
which is another way of saying you don't want to own the hardware you paid good money for.
you do realize the cpu, graphics and sound processors are OWNED by you... but the manufacturer, which has long since stopped owning that particular unit, has deemed in its infinite wisdom that you shouldn't have the right to run code on processors that you paid for.
i'm just glad there are people who are willing to support their business model. otherwise we'd live in a slightly better society. phew.
thanks guys, we couldn't control the rights of customers without your generous financial donations - SONY, Microsoft, Nintendo, formerly Sega.
macos only runs on apple hardware, so in that sense, windows is far superior. it can bsod on any chip architecture or emulation that the owner can dream of and not be deterred by a "EULA" telling them they can't.
beta wasn't all that much better than vhs in most areas. better quality with shorter runtime obviously didn't appeal to the end users of the time.
and why would anyone use their expensive ps3's to play movies, wearing down the motor and reducing the life span of the unit?
lots of people have had to replace their ps2's for similar reasons... i know i wouldn't use it more than necessary, if i were to buy one which i won't.
one a side note, they also prevent the owners of the hardware, i.e. the customers from making full use of their bought and paid for product.
that is immensely illegal... had we any judges who would stand up for the public that is. unauthorized code execution... on a machine that isn't owned by sony/ms/nintendo... tell me how that in any way is legal or moral.
if the ps3 is 5-600, it'll be as popular as the 3do. expensive consoles have NEVER been commercially popular. the neo geo is another example of the enormous market penetration that expensive consoles achieve.
even the macos9/10 still have/had segmented memory.
the "64bit" osx also is segmented but you won't run into that limit for quite a while. windows 32bit and 64bit face the same limitations.
there is no such thing as flat addressing, because costs keep it out of the picture. current end-user 64bit cpus use 48bit virtual memory addressing and 40bit physical, including x86-64.
in a way manufacturers have a point... most cpus won't last more than 5-10 years... i just wonder though how much die space and costs are saved through this kind of corner cutting.
or could it be that human understanding of energy is extremely poor compared to the other advanced species living in the universe? i bet they get a lot more energy out of one atom than humans can theorize even exists in an entire planet.
we are still in the dark ages of understanding. don't be so arrogant as to assume you know all that's out there.
that wouldn't be possible because on your crippled system you wouldn't have access to the data or network stream.
even if you managed to block the transfer, you just wouldn't be able to use that particular resource. and so the race begins to see if we meet our dystopian future or avert it... for a while until the "lobbyists" strike back.
the agenda is in your head. i didn't read the FA but the summary stated that the 2 big gorillas of the software world want to adopt playing crippled HD content on general purpose computers. now you and i know that the only way that will happen is if they have hardware level crippling (DRM) supported on those platforms.
that means if one or both of them don't support hardware-level crippling, then one or both of them will not get the blessing from the cartel thugs (**AA).
that's all i got out of the summary at least. and it certainly is logical. and even if the handcuff mode were to be disabled on the first day of release, it is an anti-customer action. no one i know and don't know would ever welcome crippling of their hardware and software. so in the end, the customer (end-user) gets nothing.
copyright has been so perverted (it started out with its hands up girls skirts) that any resemblance between this and laws for the good of the public is pure shillism. they want to restrict you and i from doing what we wish with our bought and paid for products... AFTER THEY SOLD IT. no one has that right and they didn't have that right for thousands of years... then suddenly the british monarchy decided that it would be a good idea to censor people by making ideas ownable. and thus the horror began.
as an aside, copyright only started out by preventing people from distributing copies but modern copyright law also prohibits a hell of a lot more, things that are no bussiness whatsoever of the merchant or copyright owner. period. if you want to argue that the bought and bribed laws have any sway over decent and reasonable people, be my guest. but i don't want to live in such a craptastic world.
and i haven't advocated infringement, only that people that once have bought a copy, be allowed to do with it what they wish. to say otherwise,... there just isn't a strong enough word or group of words to describe it so i'll leave it to your imagination.
number 2 is easily defeated if the player will ONLY play crippled (DRM) content. if you attempt to play anything that is missing the crippled bit, it will alert the FBI through the phone/net link.
while i applaud your efforts at avoiding the cartels' you do realize that games more often than not have much more draconian restrictions than dvds or music.
just half life 2 is one of the most absurd and anti-customer products in history. i'm not going to rehash all the points, frankly cause i'm tired but it's obscene. that's why i didn't purchase it. i wanted to but steam and half life 2 are bosom buddies. there's no way to seperate them (legally at least but then... you'd have to crack each update too and not mind no multiplayer at the same time).
another piece of utter bullsh** is starforce (and other invasive, system-destabilizing copy-prevention "drivers"). i haven't bought many games that i wanted to because they use such garbage to prevent the buying customer from making full use of their games. i hope the copyright infringers get good use of their games while potential customers willing to pay with real money abstain from rewarding greedy companies for hoisting this crap on us.
there are lots of other ways they screw legitimate customers but this one pulls my strings the most.
unfortunetly, many otherwise intelligent people share that incorrect worldview you have.
what will happen is that you'll be required, in 5-10 years, to have a "trusted aka crippled" computer in order to access to internet. and most if not all jobs will require you to have access to the network to do basic things. it's called remote attestation and it's coming to a crippled computer near you in the next few years. (some computers are already crippled, notably the new intel systems, with amd to follow in another year or so).
the fact is, that someone "elses" problem will eventually become your problem. if your neighbor is being , then it'll find its way to you.
the hands-off approach here doesn't work... unless you happen to find a way off this planet... then i'd ask you to take me with you. you can drop me off wherever.
tell at least one friend about this issue. explain to them why they need to give this a lot more consideration. then tell that friend to tell one friend about it...
education is the only powerful weapon we have in our arsenal.
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calling it "homebrew" does a grave disservice to the ideal of actually have access to products customers own.
you paid for the cpu inside the machine. you paid for the sound and graphics processors inside the plastic case (including the case). you paid for the tft lcd screen. you paid for the circuit board and the memory chips.
the gall it must take for hardware manufacturers to deny use of aforementioned items... and the utter stupidity and uninform-edness of customers who think this is a good thing or somehow benefits them...
wake up before it's too late!!!
you have EVERY RIGHT to use the processors to run any code you wish!! this has NOTHING to do with copyright infringement, so don't let the losers who bring that up get in your way.
this is outrageously illegal and immoral not to mention unethical. don't put up with this crap.
their business model is of NO CONCERN to customers. if they have to "rent" their machines under the guise of selling products, then their business licenses need to be revoked. they are not benefitting the public, the reason that businesses are !allowed! to exist in the first place.
but most people aren't even remotely aware of the sitation... so please pass on this and all information regarding customers' rights on to people you know.
HELP spread the word, please. the right to read and the right to own property are vital...
which is another way of saying you don't want to own the hardware you paid good money for.
you do realize the cpu, graphics and sound processors are OWNED by you... but the manufacturer, which has long since stopped owning that particular unit, has deemed in its infinite wisdom that you shouldn't have the right to run code on processors that you paid for.
i'm just glad there are people who are willing to support their business model. otherwise we'd live in a slightly better society. phew.
thanks guys, we couldn't control the rights of customers without your generous financial donations - SONY, Microsoft, Nintendo, formerly Sega.
macos only runs on apple hardware, so in that sense, windows is far superior. it can bsod on any chip architecture or emulation that the owner can dream of and not be deterred by a "EULA" telling them they can't.
beta wasn't all that much better than vhs in most areas. better quality with shorter runtime obviously didn't appeal to the end users of the time.
anyone else visualize that greedo represents the copyright cartel industry?
in that way, i applaud han for shooting first. i couldn't have done it better myself.
and why would anyone use their expensive ps3's to play movies, wearing down the motor and reducing the life span of the unit?
lots of people have had to replace their ps2's for similar reasons... i know i wouldn't use it more than necessary, if i were to buy one which i won't.
one a side note, they also prevent the owners of the hardware, i.e. the customers from making full use of their bought and paid for product.
that is immensely illegal... had we any judges who would stand up for the public that is. unauthorized code execution... on a machine that isn't owned by sony/ms/nintendo... tell me how that in any way is legal or moral.
if the ps3 is 5-600, it'll be as popular as the 3do.
expensive consoles have NEVER been commercially popular. the neo geo is another example of the enormous market penetration that expensive consoles achieve.
and what evidence do you have to back that up with?
it seems far more likely that it's due to sheer greed and "because they can" than due to bad batches.
that they've been massively massively overcharging for current cds and dvds... i won't be giving them the benefit of the doubt.
if a person was going to blow himself up, why would he take his identification card with him?
well thankfully, the small bomb that blew up several buildings and killed dozens of people left the identification card intact.
and you didn't name a single obscure platform.
if more than 2 people have heard of it, it isn't obscure.
cell = 8 simd vector units (memory starved--256KB?!)
with an in-order powerpc core.
tell me why cell is anything remotely like a new instruction set?
same old tech with bolted on vector processing units... which btw, the xbox360's ppc's also have 3 vector processors (altivec).
rehashed technology but somehow the fanaticboys cannot piece it together.
even the macos9/10 still have/had segmented memory.
the "64bit" osx also is segmented but you won't run into that limit for quite a while. windows 32bit and 64bit face the same limitations.
there is no such thing as flat addressing, because costs keep it out of the picture. current end-user 64bit cpus use 48bit virtual memory addressing and 40bit physical, including x86-64.
in a way manufacturers have a point... most cpus won't last more than 5-10 years... i just wonder though how much die space and costs are saved through this kind of corner cutting.
or could it be that human understanding of energy is extremely poor compared to the other advanced species living in the universe? i bet they get a lot more energy out of one atom than humans can theorize
even exists in an entire planet.
we are still in the dark ages of understanding. don't be so arrogant as to assume you know all that's out there.
neither coke nor pepsi won.
the corn syrup manufacturers won.
do you think that's sugar you're tasting?
how about not financially supporting evil companies?
to the extent possible and not too inconvenient for most people.
actually no.
intel has been screwing the public for many years.
look at the human race. that's all the credible confirmation you'll ever need.
the corporations would slit your momma's throat for a penny if they could, and they often do, unnoticed.
corporations are run by... you guessed it... people.
i doubt it costs any more than 500-1000 bucks for the whole setup. 200K in labor? puhlease.
it's the old addage... because they can.
whatcha gonna do about it, you consumer piece of sh** a**hole?
that wouldn't be possible because on your crippled system you wouldn't have access to the data or network stream.
even if you managed to block the transfer, you just wouldn't be able to use that particular resource. and so the race begins to see if we meet our dystopian future or avert it... for a while until the "lobbyists" strike back.
Treacherous/Insidious Computing to the rescue.
no need for cpu id's when your entire system and its OS will generate a 128bit id for you. and give them out to "trusted" "partners".
remote attestation never sounded so good.
the agenda is in your head. i didn't read the FA but the summary stated that the 2 big gorillas of the software world want to adopt playing crippled HD content on general purpose computers. now you and i know that the only way that will happen is if they have hardware level crippling (DRM) supported on those platforms.
... there just isn't a strong enough word or group of words to describe it so i'll leave it to your imagination.
that means if one or both of them don't support hardware-level crippling, then one or both of them will not get the blessing from the cartel thugs (**AA).
that's all i got out of the summary at least. and it certainly is logical. and even if the handcuff mode were to be disabled on the first day of release, it is an anti-customer action. no one i know and don't know would ever welcome crippling of their hardware and software. so in the end, the customer (end-user) gets nothing.
copyright has been so perverted (it started out with its hands up girls skirts) that any resemblance between this and laws for the good of the public is pure shillism. they want to restrict you and i from doing what we wish with our bought and paid for products... AFTER THEY SOLD IT. no one has that right and they didn't have that right for thousands of years... then suddenly the british monarchy decided that it would be a good idea to censor people by making ideas ownable. and thus the horror began.
as an aside, copyright only started out by preventing people from distributing copies but modern copyright law also prohibits a hell of a lot more, things that are no bussiness whatsoever of the merchant or copyright owner. period. if you want to argue that the bought and bribed laws have any sway over decent and reasonable people, be my guest. but i don't want to live in such a craptastic world.
and i haven't advocated infringement, only that people that once have bought a copy, be allowed to do with it what they wish. to say otherwise,
number 2 is easily defeated if the player will ONLY play crippled (DRM) content. if you attempt to play anything that is missing the crippled bit, it will alert the FBI through the phone/net link.
while i applaud your efforts at avoiding the cartels' you do realize that games more often than not have much more draconian restrictions than dvds or music.
just half life 2 is one of the most absurd and anti-customer products in history. i'm not going to rehash all the points, frankly cause i'm tired but it's obscene. that's why i didn't purchase it. i wanted to but steam and half life 2 are bosom buddies. there's no way to seperate them (legally at least but then... you'd have to crack each update too and not mind no multiplayer at the same time).
another piece of utter bullsh** is starforce (and other invasive, system-destabilizing copy-prevention "drivers"). i haven't bought many games that i wanted to because they use such garbage to prevent the buying customer from making full use of their games. i hope the copyright infringers get good use of their games while potential customers willing to pay with real money abstain from rewarding greedy companies for hoisting this crap on us.
there are lots of other ways they screw legitimate customers but this one pulls my strings the most.
perhaps the opposite is true.
there's a weird need for some to perceive Apple as Holy.
unfortunetly, many otherwise intelligent people share that incorrect worldview you have.
what will happen is that you'll be required, in 5-10 years, to have a "trusted aka crippled" computer in order to access to internet. and most if not all jobs will require you to have access to the network to do basic things. it's called remote attestation and it's coming to a crippled computer near you in the next few years. (some computers are already crippled, notably the new intel systems, with amd to follow in another year or so).
the fact is, that someone "elses" problem will eventually become your problem. if your neighbor is being , then it'll find its way to you.
the hands-off approach here doesn't work... unless you happen to find a way off this planet... then i'd ask you to take me with you. you can drop me off wherever.
tell at least one friend about this issue. explain to them why they need to give this a lot more consideration. then tell that friend to tell one friend about it...
education is the only powerful weapon we have in our arsenal.
when idiots like you and me educate the other idiots.
education has always been the answer for the ills of the world. the first step in solving any problem is through education.
thankfully, western countries have such easy and convenient access to high quality education that we don't have to worry....
sort of like that 50's tele-vision advertizing.
what a fad that turned out to be.