The problem is that most of the people working full time are in poor East European countries where putting food on the table is more valuable than 'serious cred and praise'. Hence the underground market for exploits? Have you been underground? There have been a ton of stories right here about the exploit underground.
Who the heck said that they're new features except for the submitter and kdawson? These are just merely fixes. Go RTFA instead of karma whoring the groupthink on here.
So, you HAVE to watch HD content in full HD just like you have to drive to work/store to keep yourself from starving? If it's that important, why dont' you get a HDCP monitor when they start using the flag? You must be the very bad analogy guy.
Sony barely even cares about people trying to watch full 1080p on small computer screens, because that's a miniscule market and some of that market watches downloaded rips anyway. HTPCs are not that prevalent either. BluRays are mostly rented or sold to people who have standalone players or PS3s. Sony will tell MS to get lost if MS wants a DRM free way to playback bluray. Why would they compromise their millions of dollars poured into bluray DRM? And no, Windows not having the ability to playback Bluray is not going to make any company fold.
It prevents you from sending your audio playing from your pc to your airport express. BIG warnings about the protected audio path and it stops it from working. The workaround that airfoil had for Vista does not work under windows 7.
Does it prevent you from sending non DRM'ed audio or DRM audio? If so, that's a (unintentional?) bug. If it does allow DRM'ed music to be transmitted, the music labels will successfully sue MS for a few billions before you can say shazam.
Oh, dont own a HDCP compliant monitor AND video card? cant watch HD content. it downscaled it.
What a crock of BS. 'it downscaled it'? OMGWTF BBQ??? You can play full HD content shot on your home HD camcorder for all you choose. If you don't have a HDCP monitor, only the protected ones that have a flag set(don't think this flag is set on ANY media yet?) will not play. Simply stay away and watch the non protected full HD to your heart's content.
I have not explored what other DRM gotchas are in there but so far those two will keep it as not recommend for all my companies clients the same as Vista currently is.
honestly there is no legitimate reason for any DRM to be present in the OS.
If DRM was lacking in Windows 7, it doesn't mean that you can watch full HD in non HDCP monitors. All it means is that you'll be unable to watch bought/rented HD content like BluRays AT ALL.
Wonder why this simple point is so hard to grasp. Looks like Slashdot gets its panties in a twist once DRM is mentioned. Or maybe you were karma whoring 'OMG it downscaled it'. Works well on here though.
The initial plan: Create a master image on a PC running Windows XP, then upgrade that PC from XP to Vista Service Pack 1 to Windows 7 beta
Headline and most of the article say it's Windows 7, with a lame disclaimer at the very end that it's a beta.
Yet, it boggles the mind that the laptop upgraded fairly easy to Vista Service Pack 1 and then flat-lined with Windows 7. So much for the Microsoft mantra "If it works in Vista, it will work in Windows 7."
MS didn't say Windows 7 Beta, you numbnut.
And then this:
A testing of XP to Vista to Windows 7 on a custom-built desktop, with newer components including an AMD (NYSE:AMD) quad-core Athlon and motherboard, went smoothly.
The popular technology website Slashdot plumbed new depths on Tuesday with a post about the terrible DRM situation in Windows 7. Proving that some sites will publish just about anything as long as it's anti-Microsoft, the post enumerated the DRM restrictions that Windows 7 apparently inflicts on the honest and upstanding computer user.
Before long, Slashdot will lose whatever reputation it has if drivel like this is posted. There's lots of stuff to bash MS on, please don't post nonsense.
Prove it!
Let Microsoft prove it in a court of law that it overpaid them.
Just because a BIG corporate demands money from you doesn't mean you have to bend over.
If i claim Microsoft wasted my money due to faults in its XP, would Microsoft bend over and pay me? NO
They will regretfully inform me of their inability to pay and thank me for my comments.
So, i have to sue them.
Similarly, each such employee should send a simple regret letter expressing their deep regret at microsoft and stating clearly their personal policies prevent them from paying. Neither confirm nor deny you owe them money. State POLICY.
Simple.
Microsoft will spend 10x times the money on lawyers to recover the money from you.
Would you send a cheque to Microsoft if using Microsoft's software helped you get a million dollar contract? If a big company owes you money, would you rather have them pay or would you like to sue them?
That's fine for the colors of a window frame, or the number of items on a pull-down menu, but OS security should not be driven by marketing and 'community feedback'.
Why not? Security levels in many cases(especially UAC) is a tradeoff between usability and security. People have spoken on the Microsoft blogs that they are okay with some inconvenience of elevation prompts for UAC changes and are not willing to sacrifice the security. Microsoft listened to them. This actually looks like a sound development methodology to take into account user feedback.
It becomes really hard to compete in that space. Right now, nobody's making money selling a web browser that competes with the one that comes with Windows.
Mozilla is making a whole ton of money from Google. And Opera gets paid from Google, Amazon etc. for searches too.
Looks like the submtitter likes to bash on the H1B visas, but in this case where is the H1B fraud? Satyam seems to have brought in employees to work on-site and they seem to working there. I see no hint of H1B fraud anywhere in the links provided at all.
Of course there is going to a cost for developing a feature(a killer feature for those people wanting to playback mainstream HD content legally). How can you say it has more bugs and is less secure because of the DRM? That makes as much sense as Windows 7 has more bugs and is less secure because of the time and money wasted in including the ribbon interface in the new Paint.
Don't trouble him, he looks more of a karma whore than having actual trouble misunderstanding. Any anti-MS post, factual or not, has a very good chance of getting modded up.
I sometimes cannot understand if people like the GP are really ignorant, or just work the karma system on Slashdot with anti-MS tripe. He's at +4 insightful right now.
How is 'having to install 70MB of bloatware to make a keyboard work' a valid complaint against Windows? If anything, it's a valid complaint against stupid hardware manufacters of keyboards, mice, webcams, printers etc.
Also, for my HTPC, every time I play a Blu-Ray movie which also requires the video card's acceleration, Vista has to disable Aero anyway.
Err what? Which player are you using for playing movies? Any player compatible with Vista won't cause Aero to be disabled. Only the pre-Vista programs that took over the full use of the graphics card cause Aero to be disabled.
Huh, I don't get you. First of all, the GP is wrong, reading emails or visiting websites or putting in photo frames never triggers UAC. You're barking up the wrong tree.
The paper was properly debunked. Your nitpicking of a inconsequential quote while ignoring the real arguments from the link you pasted shows that. Where the real world scenarios in which DRM in Vista hurts anyone? One scenario might be HD content not being shown in full HD on a non-HDCP display, but if MS allowed that, any judge would award hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage to the MPAA etc. The only other option would be not to include Blu-Ray or HDDVD support, but the MPAA won't cave in, because most content is bought for use in standalone players and not PCs.
So the bulk of the article gushes all over the taskbar, with a bit of Aero thrown in...
Are the pundits so brain dead that they don't know the difference between an OS and a UI? A taskbar is not an OS.
The koolaid must be good.....
I want to hear what they did with the DRM. I want to hear what they've done to make the system more stable under load. I want to hear that they now have a package manager, instead of DLL hell. I want to hear that drivers now ship with the OS, and I don't have to install 70 MB of bloatware just to "install" a keyboard.
Oh wait, but look at that icon on the taskbar..... Slurp, slurp, damn that koolaid tastes good.
Then you should go read the Engineering Windows 7 blog, not Slashdot. The audience for this review are the general crowd, not Slashdotters. What DRM are you talking about? I keep hearing about it, but no real life examples of how it's hindering ANYONE. DLL hell? When was the last time it affected you? Also, shipping all drivers will make the OS around a few TB. They actually try to include most drivers that are in popular hardware. Are you okay with that?
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The problem is that most of the people working full time are in poor East European countries where putting food on the table is more valuable than 'serious cred and praise'. Hence the underground market for exploits? Have you been underground? There have been a ton of stories right here about the exploit underground.
Who the heck said that they're new features except for the submitter and kdawson? These are just merely fixes. Go RTFA instead of karma whoring the groupthink on here.
So, you HAVE to watch HD content in full HD just like you have to drive to work/store to keep yourself from starving? If it's that important, why dont' you get a HDCP monitor when they start using the flag? You must be the very bad analogy guy.
Sony barely even cares about people trying to watch full 1080p on small computer screens, because that's a miniscule market and some of that market watches downloaded rips anyway. HTPCs are not that prevalent either. BluRays are mostly rented or sold to people who have standalone players or PS3s. Sony will tell MS to get lost if MS wants a DRM free way to playback bluray. Why would they compromise their millions of dollars poured into bluray DRM? And no, Windows not having the ability to playback Bluray is not going to make any company fold.
It prevents you from sending your audio playing from your pc to your airport express. BIG warnings about the protected audio path and it stops it from working. The workaround that airfoil had for Vista does not work under windows 7.
Does it prevent you from sending non DRM'ed audio or DRM audio? If so, that's a (unintentional?) bug. If it does allow DRM'ed music to be transmitted, the music labels will successfully sue MS for a few billions before you can say shazam.
Oh, dont own a HDCP compliant monitor AND video card? cant watch HD content. it downscaled it.
What a crock of BS. 'it downscaled it'? OMGWTF BBQ??? You can play full HD content shot on your home HD camcorder for all you choose. If you don't have a HDCP monitor, only the protected ones that have a flag set(don't think this flag is set on ANY media yet?) will not play. Simply stay away and watch the non protected full HD to your heart's content.
I have not explored what other DRM gotchas are in there but so far those two will keep it as not recommend for all my companies clients the same as Vista currently is.
honestly there is no legitimate reason for any DRM to be present in the OS.
If DRM was lacking in Windows 7, it doesn't mean that you can watch full HD in non HDCP monitors. All it means is that you'll be unable to watch bought/rented HD content like BluRays AT ALL. Wonder why this simple point is so hard to grasp. Looks like Slashdot gets its panties in a twist once DRM is mentioned. Or maybe you were karma whoring 'OMG it downscaled it'. Works well on here though.
The initial plan: Create a master image on a PC running Windows XP, then upgrade that PC from XP to Vista Service Pack 1 to Windows 7 beta
Headline and most of the article say it's Windows 7, with a lame disclaimer at the very end that it's a beta.
Yet, it boggles the mind that the laptop upgraded fairly easy to Vista Service Pack 1 and then flat-lined with Windows 7. So much for the Microsoft mantra "If it works in Vista, it will work in Windows 7."
MS didn't say Windows 7 Beta, you numbnut. And then this:
A testing of XP to Vista to Windows 7 on a custom-built desktop, with newer components including an AMD (NYSE:AMD) quad-core Athlon and motherboard, went smoothly.
I'm getting tired of this anti-MS drivel on here. And technology sites are noticing. Read the first line of this article http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/oh-the-humanity-windows-7s-draconian-drm.ars
The popular technology website Slashdot plumbed new depths on Tuesday with a post about the terrible DRM situation in Windows 7. Proving that some sites will publish just about anything as long as it's anti-Microsoft, the post enumerated the DRM restrictions that Windows 7 apparently inflicts on the honest and upstanding computer user.
Before long, Slashdot will lose whatever reputation it has if drivel like this is posted. There's lots of stuff to bash MS on, please don't post nonsense.
Check if it is down here.
What happens if you suspect that http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is down?
Prove it! Let Microsoft prove it in a court of law that it overpaid them. Just because a BIG corporate demands money from you doesn't mean you have to bend over. If i claim Microsoft wasted my money due to faults in its XP, would Microsoft bend over and pay me? NO They will regretfully inform me of their inability to pay and thank me for my comments. So, i have to sue them. Similarly, each such employee should send a simple regret letter expressing their deep regret at microsoft and stating clearly their personal policies prevent them from paying. Neither confirm nor deny you owe them money. State POLICY. Simple. Microsoft will spend 10x times the money on lawyers to recover the money from you.
Would you send a cheque to Microsoft if using Microsoft's software helped you get a million dollar contract? If a big company owes you money, would you rather have them pay or would you like to sue them?
That's fine for the colors of a window frame, or the number of items on a pull-down menu, but OS security should not be driven by marketing and 'community feedback'.
Why not? Security levels in many cases(especially UAC) is a tradeoff between usability and security. People have spoken on the Microsoft blogs that they are okay with some inconvenience of elevation prompts for UAC changes and are not willing to sacrifice the security. Microsoft listened to them. This actually looks like a sound development methodology to take into account user feedback.
the uac model is inherently broken.
Citation needed. Along with suggestions on a better alternative.
Outline mode?
It becomes really hard to compete in that space. Right now, nobody's making money selling a web browser that competes with the one that comes with Windows.
Mozilla is making a whole ton of money from Google. And Opera gets paid from Google, Amazon etc. for searches too.
Looks like the submtitter likes to bash on the H1B visas, but in this case where is the H1B fraud? Satyam seems to have brought in employees to work on-site and they seem to working there. I see no hint of H1B fraud anywhere in the links provided at all.
Given their market dominance the sheep follow along. Who is going to break the cycle ?
A very full featured and good office suite can do it. OO.o is good but MS Office 2007 is simply light years ahead.
Huh? Citatation needed.
here . Read the other parts and articles at the bottom of the article too.
Of course there is going to a cost for developing a feature(a killer feature for those people wanting to playback mainstream HD content legally). How can you say it has more bugs and is less secure because of the DRM? That makes as much sense as Windows 7 has more bugs and is less secure because of the time and money wasted in including the ribbon interface in the new Paint.
Don't trouble him, he looks more of a karma whore than having actual trouble misunderstanding. Any anti-MS post, factual or not, has a very good chance of getting modded up.
I sometimes cannot understand if people like the GP are really ignorant, or just work the karma system on Slashdot with anti-MS tripe. He's at +4 insightful right now.
How is 'having to install 70MB of bloatware to make a keyboard work' a valid complaint against Windows? If anything, it's a valid complaint against stupid hardware manufacters of keyboards, mice, webcams, printers etc.
XP came out when? 2001? You're comparing 2001 level hardware to 2009 level hardware? Not to mention the dirt cheap RAM cost these days.
Also, for my HTPC, every time I play a Blu-Ray movie which also requires the video card's acceleration, Vista has to disable Aero anyway.
Err what? Which player are you using for playing movies? Any player compatible with Vista won't cause Aero to be disabled. Only the pre-Vista programs that took over the full use of the graphics card cause Aero to be disabled.
Huh, I don't get you. First of all, the GP is wrong, reading emails or visiting websites or putting in photo frames never triggers UAC. You're barking up the wrong tree.
The paper was properly debunked. Your nitpicking of a inconsequential quote while ignoring the real arguments from the link you pasted shows that. Where the real world scenarios in which DRM in Vista hurts anyone? One scenario might be HD content not being shown in full HD on a non-HDCP display, but if MS allowed that, any judge would award hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage to the MPAA etc. The only other option would be not to include Blu-Ray or HDDVD support, but the MPAA won't cave in, because most content is bought for use in standalone players and not PCs.
So the bulk of the article gushes all over the taskbar, with a bit of Aero thrown in...
Are the pundits so brain dead that they don't know the difference between an OS and a UI? A taskbar is not an OS.
The koolaid must be good.....
I want to hear what they did with the DRM. I want to hear what they've done to make the system more stable under load. I want to hear that they now have a package manager, instead of DLL hell. I want to hear that drivers now ship with the OS, and I don't have to install 70 MB of bloatware just to "install" a keyboard.
Oh wait, but look at that icon on the taskbar..... Slurp, slurp, damn that koolaid tastes good.
Then you should go read the Engineering Windows 7 blog, not Slashdot. The audience for this review are the general crowd, not Slashdotters. What DRM are you talking about? I keep hearing about it, but no real life examples of how it's hindering ANYONE. DLL hell? When was the last time it affected you? Also, shipping all drivers will make the OS around a few TB. They actually try to include most drivers that are in popular hardware. Are you okay with that?