1. intelligent design is not exclusively Christian
2. seperation of church and state does not mean that that theories put forth by scientific groups, or even purely religous groups should not be taught as theories in a classroom.
3. there seems to be a lack of defense for ID, and a lot of wild flaming, so i would encourage people to investigate things, rather than taking anything said here as a basis for any credible information on the issues. I have yet to see any information or links provided to current research being done into ID. Most references are being drawn from older purely "creationist" material.
Here are some links...
Institute for creation research...yah these are are Christians scientists supporting ID and creationism... so go ahead and get angry if that offends you.
http://www.icr.org/index.html http://www.icr.org/research/
here is the site of a college ID group. has a lot of links, and im sure there are some people willing to debate with anyone interested in actually hearing someone defend ID... not that it seems anyone here is. http://www-acs.ucsd.edu/~idea/index.shtml
there must be more "good" ID links, but i do not know them. if anyone else has some i would encourage their being posted
I have heard what are... to me... very credible arguments for ID, Though i do not have the knowledge or time to defend it in this forum.
well, my shift at work just ended, so its time to get productive. hope this post has made this a more rational place
-ben
1. intelligent design is not exclusively Christian
2. seperation of church and state does not mean that that theories put forth by scientific groups, or even purely religous groups should not be taught as theories in a classroom.
3. there seems to be a lack of defense for ID, and a lot of wild flaming, so i would encourage people to investigate things, rather than taking anything said here as a basis for any credible information on the issues. I have yet to see any information or links provided to current research being done into ID. Most references are being drawn from older purely "creationist" material.
Here are some links...
Institute for creation research...yah these are are Christians scientists supporting ID and creationism... so go ahead and get angry if that offends you.
http://www.icr.org/index.html
http://www.icr.org/research/
here is the site of a college ID group. has a lot of links, and im sure there are some people willing to debate with anyone interested in actually hearing someone defend ID... not that it seems anyone here is.
http://www-acs.ucsd.edu/~idea/index.shtml
there must be more "good" ID links, but i do not know them. if anyone else has some i would encourage their being posted
I have heard what are... to me... very credible arguments for ID, Though i do not have the knowledge or time to defend it in this forum.
well, my shift at work just ended, so its time to get productive. hope this post has made this a more rational place -ben