I think its alarming how many people feel that since the Univerity allowed the loophole to exist, the students did nothing wrong. Its this very mentality that is pevasive amoung young people that to me is the real issue.
Did you know that if you find a wallet with identification in it, and you keep the money and the wallet you have committed a crime? Picking it up is legal, looking through it is legal, contacting the owner is legal, giving it to the police is legal, but keeping the money and items in the wallet is illegal.
I am not using this as an analogy for someone geek figuring out a URL gives admission info, but rather an analogy of moral issues.
The point I am making is that regardless of what you decided to do with the wallet, you didnt have to be told that keeping the money was wrong, you KNEW it would be WRONG before you did take it (if you chose to take it).
I think that less and less this is true, people dont know when to KNOW its wrong. How many kids have said that they cheat in school because everyone else does it and they would be at a disadvantage if they didnt do it.
The real problem here is that personal advancement takes priority over moral values and highground more often than not. I severly dislike Stanford University, yet I applaud there unwavering strictness in setting an example that dishonesty and ethical deviation will not be tolerated.
Hopefully, Once this blows over they can get back to churning out corporate moral deviants like Condaleza Rice capable of lying to the faces of millions of people at a time.
Good going stanford.
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"No, the correct analogy is
Imagine if the email from their friends had said "Your admission status is posted in the hall of the Natural Sciences building, indexed by SSN".
Thats a horrible analogy. For one, your assuming that the University purposely posted this information in a place where it could be found easily. Which they did not. It was a loophole in their system. The correct analogy would be this.
Imagine if the student got an email that said, "if you want to know your status, all you have to do is enter the following passcode, ****, into the door lock of the admissions building when no one is looking."
These kids knew that what they were doing wasnt the appropriate way to do it, but they figured out how to circumvent the system to gain advantage. Seems to me like the perfect corporate apprentice, and the perfect student for Stanford. If admitted, together the university and the students can continue their efforts to represent the scumbag corporate mentality of the "ME, ME, ME", and further their elitist agenda.
Oh yeah thats right, they are supposed to wait untill after they graduate and have a corporate salary to become moral bottom dwellers in their appetite for self advancement.
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I think its alarming how many people feel that since the Univerity allowed the loophole to exist, the students did nothing wrong. Its this very mentality that is pevasive amoung young people that to me is the real issue. Did you know that if you find a wallet with identification in it, and you keep the money and the wallet you have committed a crime? Picking it up is legal, looking through it is legal, contacting the owner is legal, giving it to the police is legal, but keeping the money and items in the wallet is illegal. I am not using this as an analogy for someone geek figuring out a URL gives admission info, but rather an analogy of moral issues. The point I am making is that regardless of what you decided to do with the wallet, you didnt have to be told that keeping the money was wrong, you KNEW it would be WRONG before you did take it (if you chose to take it). I think that less and less this is true, people dont know when to KNOW its wrong. How many kids have said that they cheat in school because everyone else does it and they would be at a disadvantage if they didnt do it. The real problem here is that personal advancement takes priority over moral values and highground more often than not. I severly dislike Stanford University, yet I applaud there unwavering strictness in setting an example that dishonesty and ethical deviation will not be tolerated. Hopefully, Once this blows over they can get back to churning out corporate moral deviants like Condaleza Rice capable of lying to the faces of millions of people at a time. Good going stanford.
quote: "No, the correct analogy is Imagine if the email from their friends had said "Your admission status is posted in the hall of the Natural Sciences building, indexed by SSN". Thats a horrible analogy. For one, your assuming that the University purposely posted this information in a place where it could be found easily. Which they did not. It was a loophole in their system. The correct analogy would be this. Imagine if the student got an email that said, "if you want to know your status, all you have to do is enter the following passcode, ****, into the door lock of the admissions building when no one is looking." These kids knew that what they were doing wasnt the appropriate way to do it, but they figured out how to circumvent the system to gain advantage. Seems to me like the perfect corporate apprentice, and the perfect student for Stanford. If admitted, together the university and the students can continue their efforts to represent the scumbag corporate mentality of the "ME, ME, ME", and further their elitist agenda. Oh yeah thats right, they are supposed to wait untill after they graduate and have a corporate salary to become moral bottom dwellers in their appetite for self advancement.