You can explain that to the Thomases of Amateur Action, how they're not liable in other communities merely for making obscene material available. I'm sure they'll find that an enormous comfort now that they've completed their sentences.
If that's our standard, then you don't have to look at the billboards on the drive home - hello, goatse guy! Hey, I didn't make you drive down that road. You could have surfed...errr, driven some other way, right? I just publish the billboard - it's your responsibility not to look.
You know, we wouldn't play along if the Iranians demanded that we hand over someone from California for publishing material offensive to Islam. Why on earth should we play along when the citizens of Biblethump, Tennessee demand that the same Californian be handed over for offending them?
If preserving "community standards" is important to us, that may very well be the only way out of this jungle. My guess is that rather than defining the internet as a community unto itself, the whole thing will be scrapped. To be replaced with...well, who knows?
If I'm in my community where it's legal, I'm outside of your communities' jurisdiction, there's not a lot you can do about that.
As long as you're willing to overlook the Full Faith and Credit and Extradition clauses of the Constitution, sure. Anyway, why not? We'll shred the First Amendment in the name of community standards - what's a few more bits of the Constitution shredded along with it?
You're missing the point - the whole point is the legality of it in my community. I am minding my own business, surfing the web, when I come across your website. Being the good citizen I am, I immediately recognize that, under the standards of my community, your material is obscene and illegal, and notify the local authorities of same. They, in turn, commence prosecuting you for producing this obscene and illegal material, which they are able to do under the community standards doctrine.
Now either my community has, as you say, the right to determine obscenity, and hence legality, or it doesn't. If it does, then my community also has the right to prosecute you for violating the law, else the whole thing is meaningless - you'd essentially be proposing a scheme whereby my community can indeed determine that material is obscene and illegal, but can't actually do anything about it. In which case, why bother?
Just as UPS shouldn't be held liable for what they transport, I don't think the ISP should be either.
Who said anything about the ISP? I'm talking about you, the person who published this ostensibly obscene material. Do you want to abide by my community's standards on obscenity?
Obscenity is and should always be defined by the community...
I don't think you've thought this through at all. What happens when the people of my community decide that your website, published by you from your community, is obscene and worthy of prosecution? What happens when my community issues a warrant for your arrest?
Oh, I dunno about that. The 6600GT, which I believe still qualifies as a midrange card, runs around $140-150, or damn near 3x the cost of this thing. Anyway, think of it in terms of inflation - if you spend $50 per year on a video card, versus $150 every three years, then inflation renders the second card cheaper than the first in real terms, and the third cheaper still. Which means that, in real terms, it's actually cheaper to spend the money over time than it is to spend it up front. Not that gamers tend to think this way, but still;)
For anything other than vanilla workstations getting a cheap video card usually costs more in the long run than a mid-range card because you have to replace it sooner.
What's the difference between paying $50 per year over three years, or paying $150 once every three years?
"Ooh, my number is bigger than yours! I'm better/smarter/faster!"
Dude, shut up. I've been getting a free ride off this four-digit UID ("Oooh, my number is smaller than yours! I'm better/smarter/faster!") for *years* now, and you're gonna screw it all up....
Always Ada. Invariably Ada. 90-95% of it is in Ada, I'm sure, with only a very, very few well-delineated and tested exceptions. Ada is DoD standard, and they'll hang up on you if you call with a proposal that involves something else.
The US is scrapping their Tomcats, maybe we should just pick some of those up on the cheap.
Hard to service them, though - all the machine tools, dies, and molds required to make parts for them have been destroyed, IIRC.
Anyway, if this Chinese J-10 thing turns out to be more than a knockoff of the F-16, or they stock up on those Su-27's they have a license to make now, you all may want something a bit more than the ol' Hornets on standby, just in case...
Even with a whole team of experienced avionics programmers, which you can find readily enough in Europe if the price is right, if they really had to reverse-engineer the whole wad from the ground up, the dang thing would be obsolete by the time they got into something resembling combat readiness.
Err, which facts did you bring to light, exactly? Aside from the fact that you don't care, that is.
Well, okay. As long as we're sharing facts, I should inform you - lest I be held responsible for your ongoing ignorance, naturally - that I'm a bit mystified as to why such a silly joke by the original poster has triggered such a rant on your part. I'll wager I'm not alone in that either;)
Comcast has been putting in RG-6 quad-shield with compression fittings exclusively in my area for some time now.
Sure, but what about the twenty year old cable that's already in the house? That's what VZ is looking to leverage, and I think there'll be a lot of neighborhoods where they end up pulling CAT5 anyway, just because the quality of cable in the walls is for shit.
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You can explain that to the Thomases of Amateur Action, how they're not liable in other communities merely for making obscene material available. I'm sure they'll find that an enormous comfort now that they've completed their sentences.
Except that they are, under the Constitution. We'll have your room waiting ;)
If that's our standard, then you don't have to look at the billboards on the drive home - hello, goatse guy! Hey, I didn't make you drive down that road. You could have surfed...errr, driven some other way, right? I just publish the billboard - it's your responsibility not to look.
You know, we wouldn't play along if the Iranians demanded that we hand over someone from California for publishing material offensive to Islam. Why on earth should we play along when the citizens of Biblethump, Tennessee demand that the same Californian be handed over for offending them?
If preserving "community standards" is important to us, that may very well be the only way out of this jungle. My guess is that rather than defining the internet as a community unto itself, the whole thing will be scrapped. To be replaced with...well, who knows?
As long as you're willing to overlook the Full Faith and Credit and Extradition clauses of the Constitution, sure. Anyway, why not? We'll shred the First Amendment in the name of community standards - what's a few more bits of the Constitution shredded along with it?
Now either my community has, as you say, the right to determine obscenity, and hence legality, or it doesn't. If it does, then my community also has the right to prosecute you for violating the law, else the whole thing is meaningless - you'd essentially be proposing a scheme whereby my community can indeed determine that material is obscene and illegal, but can't actually do anything about it. In which case, why bother?
Yes, it's happened before, and it will happen again, so long as the "community standards" doctrine is in place.
Who said anything about the ISP? I'm talking about you, the person who published this ostensibly obscene material. Do you want to abide by my community's standards on obscenity?
I don't think you've thought this through at all. What happens when the people of my community decide that your website, published by you from your community, is obscene and worthy of prosecution? What happens when my community issues a warrant for your arrest?
Oh, I dunno about that. The 6600GT, which I believe still qualifies as a midrange card, runs around $140-150, or damn near 3x the cost of this thing. Anyway, think of it in terms of inflation - if you spend $50 per year on a video card, versus $150 every three years, then inflation renders the second card cheaper than the first in real terms, and the third cheaper still. Which means that, in real terms, it's actually cheaper to spend the money over time than it is to spend it up front. Not that gamers tend to think this way, but still ;)
What's the difference between paying $50 per year over three years, or paying $150 once every three years?
Dude, shut up. I've been getting a free ride off this four-digit UID ("Oooh, my number is smaller than yours! I'm better/smarter/faster!") for *years* now, and you're gonna screw it all up....
http://archive.adaic.com/docs/reports/ajpo/transit ion-support/html/3.htm
Maybe elsewhere, but in the US, that's simply not the case.
Always Ada. Invariably Ada. 90-95% of it is in Ada, I'm sure, with only a very, very few well-delineated and tested exceptions. Ada is DoD standard, and they'll hang up on you if you call with a proposal that involves something else.
No it isn't. Don't be pulling that GMT bullshit on me, mister ;)
Yeah. I suspect the set of open-source programmers with avionics experience is rather small ;)
Hard to service them, though - all the machine tools, dies, and molds required to make parts for them have been destroyed, IIRC.
Anyway, if this Chinese J-10 thing turns out to be more than a knockoff of the F-16, or they stock up on those Su-27's they have a license to make now, you all may want something a bit more than the ol' Hornets on standby, just in case...
Even with a whole team of experienced avionics programmers, which you can find readily enough in Europe if the price is right, if they really had to reverse-engineer the whole wad from the ground up, the dang thing would be obsolete by the time they got into something resembling combat readiness.
Well, okay. As long as we're sharing facts, I should inform you - lest I be held responsible for your ongoing ignorance, naturally - that I'm a bit mystified as to why such a silly joke by the original poster has triggered such a rant on your part. I'll wager I'm not alone in that either ;)
You posted to let everyone know how much you don't care?
It's the part of the Constitution that doesn't give you blanket immunity for all crimes, the claims of some journalists notwithstanding.
Sure, but what about the twenty year old cable that's already in the house? That's what VZ is looking to leverage, and I think there'll be a lot of neighborhoods where they end up pulling CAT5 anyway, just because the quality of cable in the walls is for shit.