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  1. Re:Bullshit on Programming Jobs Losing Luster in U.S. · · Score: 1

    The main problem that I have always seen with hiring is how do you measure what an awesome software engineer is? What do you measure is experienced? Say I have 10 years of C++ and wrote 100 applications/tools. Does that mean I'm expierence and/or excellent. What if every one of the applications I have developed broke, had problems, cost the company millions of dollars, maybe can not work with clients at all...etc. It is ALL bullshit. Because there is no way to know. I could interview with a company, have certifications, and still SUCK. People are good bullshitters but does mean they have the skills. Beyond years of experience and programming language skills the wrong questions are asked at interviews. A developer is a developer...they can learn new methodolgies, new languages, new APIs(we are people that think in a different manner). When hired into a new company, every developer will have to learn about how each company does their operations. No one can just come in and start coding. Have to see if there are assets to use, etc. I think the best developer is one that can create reusable assets, frameworks, cut and paste code snippets(when allowed), and find code that is already out there. Don't reinvent the wheel. How do you truely measure a developer skills....asking hard C++ questions? Maybe a person can mold into what you want alot quicker with loyalty and trust. All this talk about 10, 20, 25 dollars an hour is rediculous. A developer usually is ALWAYS thinking about their jobs and how to solve problems. It is also a skill that takes education, constant learning, constant research...u should pay more than that...it is a very demanding and stressful job. If you are comparing american developers compared to outsourcing then you are going to get what you pay for. Lower customer sat, more difficult in collaborating with time zones, longer turnaround time for development, more difficult to organize teams, quality of work. There is never going to be a way to look at data and say who is good and not good. It is easier to work with developers that you can see every day rather than ones that are sleeping while you are working. You will never be able to measure...so you should interview more people than just the 1 year of Oracle experience(whatever that means) u think you might need but truely requires more skills than that.