Ok, I see what you mean, but IIRC also this outcry happened because MS abused the monopoly. Not necessarily in a legal sense but in the way it treated its customers. Google on the other hand hasn't done much to upset people, and it's gratis.
Sudan was not part of the discussion when I joined, and I don't wanna discuss your strawman. OBVIOUSLY Sudan is different, but it's not as if its problems were caused by overpopulation either, as by your original argument, "The world's biggest problems stem from too many humans, not enough space/food/stuff."
Take Google. It's the "not evil" company. Now, I might be mistaken, but doesn't Google have a similar position in areas like web search and to some extent web mail that MS has in the areas of OS and office? But where's the outcry?
You STILL don't get it? The outcry was not about MS having a monopoly, but about using this monoploy to illegally gain advantages in other markets.
My point is that European nations do have laws against certain typs of speech, so their speech is not always 100% "free"
So does the US, and neither is all speech in the US free. In some cases (e.g., Holocaust denial in Germany) the limits might be tighter than in the US, but for those having no direct experience I might have to explain that of course the secret police does not pick you up as soon as you deny the Holocaust, or utter antisemitism over a few beers. If it did, the jails would be much fuller.
To get in conflict with the denial laws, you have to deny in some publication or big public assembly, and very clearly. Yes, this still limits free speech, and I do see it ambivalently. But you have to take into account that after the end of WW2, Germany was full of Nazis (surprise, surprise), and this remained the case for many years or even decades. You just couldn't have those people go around denying their horrid crimes in the media and in big public displays. It would have been dangerous, as the lure of this ideology might have still been there, and it would have been insufferable for the victims/survivors. It also was simply not possible to argue with each and every one of the nazi assholes, and one point you just had to say, "you shut up now." There might come to time to changes these laws.
And as a side note, we have plenty biased journalism and there are now laws against it. There are however laws for the state-owned TV stations (in Germany there are two, to prevent them from becoming 0wn3d), who have to follow certain guidelines and, not surprisingly, produce much better program than the privately-owned ones.
Ah, funny, Germany. I've been with ITCCA (that's Yang Cheng Fu -> Yang Shou Chung -> Chu King Hung) for 8 years or so (albeit with quite some gap when I didn't really practice), first in Vienna and now in Berlin. Currently working on the 3rd internal principle of the solo form (moving the center), and started with the sword last year.
Hm, dunno, what about thinking up a definition beforehand and then sticking to it?
anguish: extreme mental distress
unbearable physical pain
agony: intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain; "an agony of doubt"; "the torments of the damned"
torment: torment emotionally or mentally
the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason; "it required unnatural torturing to extract a confession"
Article 5 (Freedom of expression). (1) Everyone has the right freely to express and to disseminate his opinion by speech, writing and pictures and freely to inform himself from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting by radio and motion pictures are guaranteed. There shall be no censorship. (2) These rights are limited by the provisions of the general laws, the provisions of law for the protection of youth and by the right to inviolability of personal honor. (3) Art and science, research and teaching are free. Freedom of teaching does not absolve from loyalty to the constitution.
4. Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.
11. The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. Every citizen may, accordingly, speak, write, and print with freedom, but shall be responsible for such abuses of this freedom as shall be defined by law.
Austria, "Staatsgrundgesetz über die allgemeinen Rechte der Staatsbürger für die im Reichsrate vertretenen Königreiche und Länder" (approx. "Basic Law on the General Rights of Nationals", an older law explicitly included by the original constitution, now superceded by the UN Declaration of human rights which also is explicitly part of the constitution),
Article 13 [Expression, Censorship] (1) Everyone has the right, within the limits of the law, to freely express his opinion by word of mouth and in writing, print, or pictorial representation. (2) The Press may be neither subjected to censorship nor restricted by the licensing system. Administrative postal distribution vetoes do not apply to inland publication.
Article 14 [Freedom of Belief] (1) Everyone is guaranteed complete freedom of conscience and creed. (2) The enjoyment of civic and political rights is independent of religious belief. Nevertheless duties incumbent on nationals may not be prejudiced by religious beliefs. (3) No one can be forced to observe a ritual act or to participate in an ecclesiastical ceremony in so far as he is not subordinate to another who is by law invested with such authority.
Looking up Sweden's, Finlands, Spain's, Portugal's, The Netherland's, Norway's, etc., constitutions is left as an exercise for the reader.
The world's biggest problems stem from too many humans
Oh my, that's so wrong. There is enough for everyone, the world's biggest problem is unfair distribution.
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Your creature may end up dominating my puny one-legged hoppers, but you'll never know.
Actually, I hope they would let me _know, as part of player stats/history. They could possibly even include a somehow automated description of events (is that possible in an interesting way, technically?) and/or user blogs where you can describe your events as if you were a blogger in Iraq. Possibly even spectator areas (you would have to opt-in to be able to being watched. It would be enough to be unable to _influence the events in other player's games.
I'm tempted to add all South American incidents, but I don't have all night. GP should read up on, dunno, Chile, Nicaragua, Cuba, United Fruit Company,... Oh, politics on/. (and I always thought _our schools are bad)
It certainly is debatable, but there are no known historical records more than ca. 150 years back, and it seems pretty safe to say that the currently practiced forms weren't developed much earlier. There is no doubt though that other internal arts, and/or direct precursors existed way longer. And in the context of the parent I replied to: it is in any case true that major developments in the internal arts happened within the last 500 years and the parent was an idiot.
To be honest, I was mainly trying to plug the links:) May I ask what style you practice and in what school/lineage? (and nice sig!)
5) What good are backup tapes if you can't use them? 4) Have you ever been in a company or government office? 3) What makes you think there are paper records for everything? I have produced hundreds or thousands of files over the years and I can assure you that only a miniscule part exists on paper 2) This is very true 1) I don't believe they have one either, or at least won't use it
The whole discussion is of course only bullshit prompted by the killswitch phantasy. I just object to the idea that if 90% of the computers are shut down over night, the EU could "brush it off". They couldn't, and it would trigger an unforeseeable chain of events. Note that I didn't say in my original reply that MS and Bush would cause WW3, just that they would risk it.
Oh and btw, how the fuck am I supposed to know that you mean that "it would consist of every company and organisation firewalling the killswitch", when what you in fact wrote is "what would *actually* happen would be the erection of a large firewall between Europe and the U.S"?
I don't see why you see a need to call me names. But since you started anyway: if you believe that "every company and organisation" in the EU is able to firewall the killswitch addresses/ports, and within 2 weeks, I suggest you get out of school first before spouting off.
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this kind of thing is an important reminder to all humans how much we really have to learn
And, as I see it, a reminder that we should stop playing with DNA and setting the resulting stuff free as long as we have no fucking clue.
Ok, I see what you mean, but IIRC also this outcry happened because MS abused the monopoly. Not necessarily in a legal sense but in the way it treated its customers. Google on the other hand hasn't done much to upset people, and it's gratis.
Sudan was not part of the discussion when I joined, and I don't wanna discuss your strawman. OBVIOUSLY Sudan is different, but it's not as if its problems were caused by overpopulation either, as by your original argument, "The world's biggest problems stem from too many humans, not enough space/food/stuff."
Take Google. It's the "not evil" company. Now, I might be mistaken, but doesn't Google have a similar position in areas like web search and to some extent web mail that MS has in the areas of OS and office? But where's the outcry?
You STILL don't get it? The outcry was not about MS having a monopoly, but about using this monoploy to illegally gain advantages in other markets.
My point is that European nations do have laws against certain typs of speech, so their speech is not always 100% "free"
So does the US, and neither is all speech in the US free. In some cases (e.g., Holocaust denial in Germany) the limits might be tighter than in the US, but for those having no direct experience I might have to explain that of course the secret police does not pick you up as soon as you deny the Holocaust, or utter antisemitism over a few beers. If it did, the jails would be much fuller.
To get in conflict with the denial laws, you have to deny in some publication or big public assembly, and very clearly. Yes, this still limits free speech, and I do see it ambivalently. But you have to take into account that after the end of WW2, Germany was full of Nazis (surprise, surprise), and this remained the case for many years or even decades.
You just couldn't have those people go around denying their horrid crimes in the media and in big public displays. It would have been dangerous, as the lure of this ideology might have still been there, and it would have been insufferable for the victims/survivors. It also was simply not possible to argue with each and every one of the nazi assholes, and one point you just had to say, "you shut up now." There might come to time to changes these laws.
And as a side note, we have plenty biased journalism and there are now laws against it. There are however laws for the state-owned TV stations (in Germany there are two, to prevent them from becoming 0wn3d), who have to follow certain guidelines and, not surprisingly, produce much better program than the privately-owned ones.
But it's only 5% difference there, and I'm sure he'd lose that if he was on TV all the time ...
I'm not talking about aid but about not sucking those countries dry in the first place.
Ah, funny, Germany. I've been with ITCCA (that's Yang Cheng Fu -> Yang Shou Chung -> Chu King Hung) for 8 years or so (albeit with quite some gap when I didn't really practice), first in Vienna and now in Berlin. Currently working on the 3rd internal principle of the solo form (moving the center), and started with the sword last year.
I agree that Tai Chi adds much to life.
It's amazing, isn't it!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3640754.stm
if you are an innocent suspect, it is highly likely that you are not as innocent as you'd have us believe.
Once again, you show your detachment from reality.
Oh boy.
several major german newspapers and tv stations ran polls and each one clearly showed, that bush and his politics are strongly disliked by the germans
Poll results 2004: Kerry - Bush
Norway: 74% - 7%
Germany: 74% - 10%
France: 64% - 5%
Italy: 58% - 14%
Spain: 45% - 7%
UK: 47% - 16%
Canada: 61% - 16%
Mexico: 38% - 18%
Brazil: 57% - 14%
China: 52% - 12%
Japan: 43% - 32%
Indonesia:57% - 34%
India: 34% - 33%
Philippines: 32% - 57%
Nigeria: 33% - 27%
Poland: 26% - 31%
Thailand:30% - 33%
Seems not only in the Philippines Bush managed a meaningful lead. And I can guarantee you that 2006's numbers would look even more damning.
Sorry for the formatting, I didn't manage to create a table layout that the lameness filter would accept
I wonder, what constitutes a "mass protest rally" in the US, that is how many people does it take to show up to be perceived as such?
Germany, "Grundgesetz" ("Basic Law" = constitution),
France, "La Déclaration des droits de l'Homme et du citoyen" ("Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen", an older law that is acknowledged by the constituion),
Austria, "Staatsgrundgesetz über die allgemeinen Rechte der Staatsbürger für die im Reichsrate vertretenen Königreiche und Länder" (approx. "Basic Law on the General Rights of Nationals", an older law explicitly included by the original constitution, now superceded by the UN Declaration of human rights which also is explicitly part of the constitution),
Looking up Sweden's, Finlands, Spain's, Portugal's, The Netherland's, Norway's, etc., constitutions is left as an exercise for the reader.
Well of course that would mean the rich nations would have give up some of their booty. Do you tell me it's impossible?
If you dont agree with the boss and speak out against him ( or the company ), you can/should be fired
Gosh, I am so happy I don't work in the same place as you. That might be partly because I wouldn't.
The world's biggest problems stem from too many humans
Oh my, that's so wrong. There is enough for everyone, the world's biggest problem is unfair distribution.
Your creature may end up dominating my puny one-legged hoppers, but you'll never know.
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Actually, I hope they would let me _know, as part of player stats/history. They could possibly even include a somehow automated description of events (is that possible in an interesting way, technically?) and/or user blogs where you can describe your events as if you were a blogger in Iraq. Possibly even spectator areas (you would have to opt-in to be able to being watched.
It would be enough to be unable to _influence the events in other player's games.
I think I should send my CV to the Spore people
I'm tempted to add all South American incidents, but I don't have all night. GP should read up on, dunno, Chile, Nicaragua, Cuba, United Fruit Company, ... /. (and I always thought _our schools are bad)
Oh, politics on
It certainly is debatable, but there are no known historical records more than ca. 150 years back, and it seems pretty safe to say that the currently practiced forms weren't developed much earlier. There is no doubt though that other internal arts, and/or direct precursors existed way longer. And in the context of the parent I replied to: it is in any case true that major developments in the internal arts happened within the last 500 years and the parent was an idiot.
:) May I ask what style you practice and in what school/lineage? (and nice sig!)
To be honest, I was mainly trying to plug the links
very understood the "pay for a web browser" bit
I guess you meant "never". And FYI, it's been a free download for a very long time. IIRC Ubuntu has it even in the package manager
5) What good are backup tapes if you can't use them?
4) Have you ever been in a company or government office?
3) What makes you think there are paper records for everything? I have produced hundreds or thousands of files over the years and I can assure you that only a miniscule part exists on paper
2) This is very true
1) I don't believe they have one either, or at least won't use it
The whole discussion is of course only bullshit prompted by the killswitch phantasy. I just object to the idea that if 90% of the computers are shut down over night, the EU could "brush it off". They couldn't, and it would trigger an unforeseeable chain of events. Note that I didn't say in my original reply that MS and Bush would cause WW3, just that they would risk it.
Oh and btw, how the fuck am I supposed to know that you mean that "it would consist of every company and organisation firewalling the killswitch", when what you in fact wrote is "what would *actually* happen would be the erection of a large firewall between Europe and the U.S"?
I don't see why you see a need to call me names. But since you started anyway: if you believe that "every company and organisation" in the EU is able to firewall the killswitch addresses/ports, and within 2 weeks, I suggest you get out of school first before spouting off.
Don't be so naive. The erection of a large firewall would (1) not be done within 2 weeks, and (2) provoke major strife between the US and EU.