I've seen real register reference PDFs for ATI chipsets and what was released was generic 2D support register references. Don't expect OSS to build *real* 3D OpenGL implementations based on what was provided.
Um, the summary says "expect more documentation (and 3D specifications) to arrive shortly".
How long are we going to have to wait? How many years did you wait after you first had a N64 controller in hand, until you decided that the analog stick will stay? Sony, in any case, did not wait long.
I can tell you right now (after having played Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition*) that I will never again go back to shooting stuff on consoles without some motion-sensing controller.
Recently a TV program on the Food Network, Jamie Oliver's School Dinners, really hit this mark home for me. The majority of kids in a classroom couldn't identify an unprocessed carrot from a potato. (!!!)
I recently read about a study being done in German schools that allegedly found that 30% of kids aged 6 to 11 could not walk backwards.
How do the people that created modern civilization suddenly come into this? Yeah, they have contributed to my feeding, but as you yourself say, they were not libertarians, and quite frequently in some way communitarian. I just don't get your train of thought here.
I brought up AS, probably needlessly, because of the recent "nerds are libertarians" story, where this came up frequently and people constantly confused the book and reality. Sorry if this confused our discussion.
Regarding free will and the gun, I think you're misunderstanding something. I don't (figuratively) oppose people of free will with a gun in had. I very clearly said what I oppose: libertarianism being forced onto me. You may not notice, but I have just as much a right to build, together with like-minded people, a society that I actually want to live in, as libertarians or other free market nuts have to theirs. This way of life certainly shares some characteristics with what libertarians want, but it also includes a large share of communitarian ideals and solidarity. This way of life already is constantly under pressure by corporatist interests and their unwitting stooges, the libertarians. I will certainly resist where possible, but I have no problem when the corporatists and libertarians stick to their free state in New Hampshire or something, as long as they leave me alone.
I'll do my best to keep those who want to foist economic libertarianism on on the defensive, in discussions, in politics, and, if forced to, on the battle field.
This makes me a fan of yours. It's actually something that continually amazes me on slashdot: I don't think I have ever seen someone use the word "solidarity" here.
I appreciate your in-depth post. I agree that much is possible, as your example shows, but not much of what you cite exists in the book. The protagonists had no or little experience with this kind of life, they relinquished none of the nice things about "civilization", etc. Instead, Rand magically gave them an unlimited and clean power supply, and they were just able to pull off the rest because of their Übermenschen status. That's just too cheap. Given a small, clean, and unlimited power supply, even soviet communism might have worked.
Because the examples you cited have many years or even generations of experience, and always do without certain things we take for granted. The people in the book have no experience and relinquish nothing material. That's why.
The quotes are necessary to distinguish Rand from real philosophy that does not take shortcuts everywhere to make things easier and to push its point. As for the other thing, I have commented on it numerous times in this thread, so spare me.
And the point is, it's a literary trick of Rand's who simplifies the complex reality to make her superheroes look better. Yeah, they did in the book, but could not have done it in reality.
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You can browse matrox.com yourself, can't you?
I don't even understand why they're still in business today.
The world does not revolve around 3D. Matrox produce fine gear for high-quality 2D work, like medical imaging.
I've seen real register reference PDFs for ATI chipsets and what was released was generic 2D support register references. Don't expect OSS to build *real* 3D OpenGL implementations based on what was provided.
Um, the summary says "expect more documentation (and 3D specifications) to arrive shortly".
Wait a few more years and see if it'll stick.
How long are we going to have to wait? How many years did you wait after you first had a N64 controller in hand, until you decided that the analog stick will stay? Sony, in any case, did not wait long.
I can tell you right now (after having played Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition*) that I will never again go back to shooting stuff on consoles without some motion-sensing controller.
* Metroid Prime not yet out in my area
Any slashdotter with pre- and post- 1.92 firmware care to comment?
It may be that the post that is currently directly above yours might unwittingly describe the difference.
Thanks. Get something to calm you down while you read the ensuing discussion, not only in this thread but further down, too. I feel still scarred ;)
This was ridiculed by the Western gaming press.
I suggest you pick up the latest issue of Edge.
I should add that the study was specifically done in Berlin, so we are mostly talking about kids from the city. But still ...
I find it very disturbing, too.
Recently a TV program on the Food Network, Jamie Oliver's School Dinners, really hit this mark home for me. The majority of kids in a classroom couldn't identify an unprocessed carrot from a potato. (!!!)
I recently read about a study being done in German schools that allegedly found that 30% of kids aged 6 to 11 could not walk backwards.
How do the people that created modern civilization suddenly come into this? Yeah, they have contributed to my feeding, but as you yourself say, they were not libertarians, and quite frequently in some way communitarian. I just don't get your train of thought here.
I brought up AS, probably needlessly, because of the recent "nerds are libertarians" story, where this came up frequently and people constantly confused the book and reality. Sorry if this confused our discussion.
Regarding free will and the gun, I think you're misunderstanding something. I don't (figuratively) oppose people of free will with a gun in had. I very clearly said what I oppose: libertarianism being forced onto me. You may not notice, but I have just as much a right to build, together with like-minded people, a society that I actually want to live in, as libertarians or other free market nuts have to theirs. This way of life certainly shares some characteristics with what libertarians want, but it also includes a large share of communitarian ideals and solidarity. This way of life already is constantly under pressure by corporatist interests and their unwitting stooges, the libertarians. I will certainly resist where possible, but I have no problem when the corporatists and libertarians stick to their free state in New Hampshire or something, as long as they leave me alone.
Libertarians have never fed me. Don't confuse Atlas Shrugged with the real world.
I'll do my best to keep those who want to foist economic libertarianism on on the defensive, in discussions, in politics, and, if forced to, on the battle field.
I don't care if he is, the response is.
Capitalism will quickly filter out any irresponsible companies.
And it works absolutely amazing. I tell you, I haven't seen an irresponsible company in years, nay, decades!
"if they dont want to be tagged, they can just quit and go work for another company."
There you go.
Many of those who pose as libertarians on slashdot would disagree with you.
This makes me a fan of yours. It's actually something that continually amazes me on slashdot: I don't think I have ever seen someone use the word "solidarity" here.
Ah, another victim of the "why are nerds libertarian" bashfest ;)
I know, it was a joke, note the smiley.
Chill, you both are on the same line. (And me, too!)
;)
True, thanks for pointing it out. It was a heated Sunday discussion, and sometimes not easy to distinguish friend and foe
I appreciate your in-depth post. I agree that much is possible, as your example shows, but not much of what you cite exists in the book. The protagonists had no or little experience with this kind of life, they relinquished none of the nice things about "civilization", etc. Instead, Rand magically gave them an unlimited and clean power supply, and they were just able to pull off the rest because of their Übermenschen status. That's just too cheap. Given a small, clean, and unlimited power supply, even soviet communism might have worked.
Because the examples you cited have many years or even generations of experience, and always do without certain things we take for granted. The people in the book have no experience and relinquish nothing material. That's why.
The quotes are necessary to distinguish Rand from real philosophy that does not take shortcuts everywhere to make things easier and to push its point. As for the other thing, I have commented on it numerous times in this thread, so spare me.
And the point is, it's a literary trick of Rand's who simplifies the complex reality to make her superheroes look better. Yeah, they did in the book, but could not have done it in reality.