So what you all are saying(I am reading this also) is that the AMERICAN government is responsible for all of this? That there is a Shadow government involved?(ie - CIA or other black ops group) BTW, if you really want to know something, it is not the Shadow government that runs the US government, it is the LOBBYIST GROUPS(which one of them may be this shadow government) There is mention in the previous postings that Americans are puppets to their own government, ignorant, and obey what their leaders say? I take offense to that because I am highly educated.. and I can think on my own! That because of Bush's policies and such that he and this government is responsible? If this is so true then why are these extremist groups targeting CIVILIANS ??? All of this rhetoric and I haven't heard anything about putting the responsibility on the people who done these acts of terror! Also, about the Patriot Act, yes there are some bad things about it, but in case you don't know freedom isn't free! Yeah lets keep our borders WIDE open so that these extremists can come in and out of the country freely! Wait a second that happened, they came, got flight training in FL and elsewhere in US, hijacked planes and killed american CIVILIANS not government or military but CIVILIANS. You people ask, why it took the president to respond so long and how he saw video before the public? Well, it is called security and security investigation... For me, I would want a president to gather all the facts before making a speech. I guess you feel the same way about Tony Blair in England then. He saw footage before the public saw it and he did not come out right away and make a speech. It seems that you dislike the president or our government , so vote next elections and/or leave the country! There are some of us who like the government now, but still think they can improve their policies tremendously. This government is perfect!
Peace..
"faulty stories I have heard on the news?"... Where did you get your information from? Quoting Jay Leno! There's a quality source...
Oh by the way, I know alot about what is going on in Iraq. I just got out of the Marine 3 months ago after spending 2 years in Iraq myself..
Less mature - please. At least I didn't have to bring this up in my conversation...
Oh btw, every government in the world has their own version of "black ops" and "shadow government"...
Moving on... The beauty of freedom and democracy is the right to free speech! So I will leave this conversation as is... Two people who totally disagree on topics!
Peace...
I understand about disagreeing with the American Government. I disagree with a lot of the policies of my government and NOT just on foreign policy. Unfortunately, we as Americans vote who we think will do the best job and then they get in office they often do the opposite of what they say.
Best of luck to you. I hope you didn't have any loved ones, family, or friends that were in the bombings...
Peace...
Shadow Government? That's a new one! Go over your 3 points above on Terrorists!
1. "Heart Swelling Belief" that their religion allows killing of innocent people.
2. Desire to hate those who don't conform to their beliefs and religion, hate those who are better off then them, hate those who don't believe in their ideologies, blame everything else that is wrong in the world for their killings.
3. So deep in their own "ideologies" that they recruit others to die for them! They recruit others who are less off then they are and give these poor suckers money and belief that they will sit next to "Allah" when they commit suicide bombings.
Shadow Government please! Oh one more thing - Islam preaches that one should not kill another muslim. Hmmm.... all the bombings in the middle east...
Fantastic Lad - what's so fantastic about you?
First - I am truly saddened by what has happened in London. I send all my prayers and best wishes for the people of London and Britain.
Everybody blames america for what is happening around the world. I'm tired of it! If everyone dislikes America so much, stop sending your children to America to be Educated, stop migrating to America to find a better place to live, stop trying to find jobs in America! Stop sending families and family members with one-way tickets to America! On the other hand, if you come to America to join our society peacefully, then I will welcome you. Our society is not without its faults! Given these there is still no place on earth where I would rather live.
I served in the US Marines for 8 years and been to 18 different countries. I can say I have a broad viewpoint of the world! America does a lot of good around the world, and sometimes we do make mistakes. Unfortunately, the young men and women in the Military (of any country) are often caught in the middle of "Politics". Just remember if there weren't any politicians, then we wouldn't need militaries!
Terrorists are cowards! Period! If America wasn't recognized as a leader in the world, then they will find someone else to enact they fury. Those of you who say that America should stay behind its own borders and become an isolationist think again! America and the world tried that in WWII. Remember that era?
Any group in the world that uses "religion" as a means to Kill, are cowards. I know many people who belong to the Islam religion and they don't kill people... Islam is probably the most peaceful religion in the world... Every religion has their "Extremists". It is the extremist who give all a bad name. Unfortunately, we must hunt down the leaders of the terrorist's and remove them from power.
Just my two cents....
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So what you all are saying(I am reading this also) is that the AMERICAN government is responsible for all of this? That there is a Shadow government involved?(ie - CIA or other black ops group) BTW, if you really want to know something, it is not the Shadow government that runs the US government, it is the LOBBYIST GROUPS(which one of them may be this shadow government) There is mention in the previous postings that Americans are puppets to their own government, ignorant, and obey what their leaders say? I take offense to that because I am highly educated.. and I can think on my own! That because of Bush's policies and such that he and this government is responsible? If this is so true then why are these extremist groups targeting CIVILIANS ??? All of this rhetoric and I haven't heard anything about putting the responsibility on the people who done these acts of terror! Also, about the Patriot Act, yes there are some bad things about it, but in case you don't know freedom isn't free! Yeah lets keep our borders WIDE open so that these extremists can come in and out of the country freely! Wait a second that happened, they came, got flight training in FL and elsewhere in US, hijacked planes and killed american CIVILIANS not government or military but CIVILIANS. You people ask, why it took the president to respond so long and how he saw video before the public? Well, it is called security and security investigation... For me, I would want a president to gather all the facts before making a speech. I guess you feel the same way about Tony Blair in England then. He saw footage before the public saw it and he did not come out right away and make a speech. It seems that you dislike the president or our government , so vote next elections and/or leave the country! There are some of us who like the government now, but still think they can improve their policies tremendously. This government is perfect! Peace..
"faulty stories I have heard on the news?"... Where did you get your information from? Quoting Jay Leno! There's a quality source... Oh by the way, I know alot about what is going on in Iraq. I just got out of the Marine 3 months ago after spending 2 years in Iraq myself.. Less mature - please. At least I didn't have to bring this up in my conversation... Oh btw, every government in the world has their own version of "black ops" and "shadow government"... Moving on... The beauty of freedom and democracy is the right to free speech! So I will leave this conversation as is... Two people who totally disagree on topics! Peace...
I understand about disagreeing with the American Government. I disagree with a lot of the policies of my government and NOT just on foreign policy. Unfortunately, we as Americans vote who we think will do the best job and then they get in office they often do the opposite of what they say. Best of luck to you. I hope you didn't have any loved ones, family, or friends that were in the bombings... Peace...
Shadow Government? That's a new one! Go over your 3 points above on Terrorists! 1. "Heart Swelling Belief" that their religion allows killing of innocent people. 2. Desire to hate those who don't conform to their beliefs and religion, hate those who are better off then them, hate those who don't believe in their ideologies, blame everything else that is wrong in the world for their killings. 3. So deep in their own "ideologies" that they recruit others to die for them! They recruit others who are less off then they are and give these poor suckers money and belief that they will sit next to "Allah" when they commit suicide bombings. Shadow Government please! Oh one more thing - Islam preaches that one should not kill another muslim. Hmmm.... all the bombings in the middle east... Fantastic Lad - what's so fantastic about you?
First - I am truly saddened by what has happened in London. I send all my prayers and best wishes for the people of London and Britain. Everybody blames america for what is happening around the world. I'm tired of it! If everyone dislikes America so much, stop sending your children to America to be Educated, stop migrating to America to find a better place to live, stop trying to find jobs in America! Stop sending families and family members with one-way tickets to America! On the other hand, if you come to America to join our society peacefully, then I will welcome you. Our society is not without its faults! Given these there is still no place on earth where I would rather live. I served in the US Marines for 8 years and been to 18 different countries. I can say I have a broad viewpoint of the world! America does a lot of good around the world, and sometimes we do make mistakes. Unfortunately, the young men and women in the Military (of any country) are often caught in the middle of "Politics". Just remember if there weren't any politicians, then we wouldn't need militaries! Terrorists are cowards! Period! If America wasn't recognized as a leader in the world, then they will find someone else to enact they fury. Those of you who say that America should stay behind its own borders and become an isolationist think again! America and the world tried that in WWII. Remember that era? Any group in the world that uses "religion" as a means to Kill, are cowards. I know many people who belong to the Islam religion and they don't kill people... Islam is probably the most peaceful religion in the world... Every religion has their "Extremists". It is the extremist who give all a bad name. Unfortunately, we must hunt down the leaders of the terrorist's and remove them from power. Just my two cents....