"and the result is that napster is telling everyone they've been ordered to shut down"
Uh.... How could they possibly ensure that no material is traded in violation of copyright without shutting down? They have no (legal) way of determining what is what.
For its offtopic-ness and its excessive whitespace, this message has earned a "Troll" moderation from me. (Also, while not really grounds for moderation down, this post has other pitiful characteristics: the author states only their opinion, with no explanation of his/her reasoning, and provides no other useful information, or an argument, or anything like that.)
I wonder if multimegabyte print media preproduction images of harmless stuff could go through quite easily. That would also give you a lot of room to hide extraneous data.
>or accidently using an image thats available elsewhere
You can easily get around this by creating your own digital image (e.g. bring a digital camera). However, as was mentioned, deniability is useful, and this might affect it.
This is something I've wondered for a while about recording companies' wierd file-first-and-ask-questions-later policy:
my.mp3.com... At least they try to limit content access to at least those who have had a real physical duplicate of the album at some point. But, yet, they get sued by record companies. The solid basis of the record companies case: The copies that the users are accessing are not copies of the cds they purchased, but of copies from another source. In other words, their case is based on a technicalty. But, likely a solid one.
Why, though? If record companies kill my.mp3.com and verifier-controlled services like it, then all the users will move over to unchecked storage sites like myplay.com and distributed file sharing systems like napster, gnutella, freenet, etc., all (or at least most if indexing is contributory infringement) of which are protected by the betamax ruling, because they have one or more significant legitimate uses. Are they really that short-sighted?
Where the hell did this guy come from? I assume that the french translation is there because Ottawa has a predeliction for bilingual signage, not to mention a large number of french-speaking and bilingual people, it being the capitol and right across from Hull and all. I don't see why this person wouldn't know that.
BTW, Ottawa isn't a province (or did you mean Ontario?). There are plenty of french-speaking people in Canada outside of Quebec, and plenty of non-French-speaking people inside Quebec.
Minor nitpick: That abbreviation would probably be the other way around in French.
No criteria? What about those on the "Getting on the RBL" page? (http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/candidacy.html) No way to get off? What about the instructions on the "Getting off the RBL" page? (http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/getoff.html)
People who complain that no information is available when they obviously haven't even bothered to look at all really piss me off.
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"for another entity to unilaterally deny users who are not their customers the right to use the service, however flawed it may or may not be, and to do so by undermining the very IP protocols we all rely on is reprehensible in the extreme. "
Well, MD has non-linear editing and recording on the go, is more scratch resistant, is smaller but holds less. A low-end portable md recorder costs around the same as a low-end burner and an mp3 cd player. The media cost 2x - 4x more per piece (even a higher factor than that per minute of audio).
Now, if only we could dump this stupid AHRA & SCMS so that manufacturers could actually put direct data access on these things...
Wrong: a) The Charter of Rights and Freedoms is federal, and applies to Quebec regardless of their not signing it. But, obviously they can just use section 33 to enact labelling language laws. and b) Quebec also has a provincial constitution. (The eventual watering down of the signage provisions introduced in Bill 101 was due in part to a case involving the provincial constitution. Again, Quebec used the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms section 33 [the "notwithstanding" clause] to get around its freedom of expression provisions.
Why wait for ICANN support? Why not just start an open TLD unilaterally (see the.o proposal in my posting history), start some public servers, slowly gather support from the oss community and whoever else wants to use it, and work out the "ICANN blessing" later?
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"and the result is that napster is telling everyone they've been ordered to shut down"
Uh.... How could they possibly ensure that no material is traded in violation of copyright without shutting down? They have no (legal) way of determining what is what.
"Well firstly we need some kind of age limit"
Not only is that completely unethical in my opinion, but also unconstitutional where I come from.
"there is a lot of offenisve [sic] material out there that we don't want our kids seeing" - Speak for yourself, buddy.
"to people mature enough to take responsiblity for their own actions" - I know plenty of people over 18 who don't fit this mould.
Is IP spoofing really that valuable to you? Or do you just not know what you're talking about?
But, it's a bit difficult to do five or six phone calls at once.
Also, does TALK allow multi-party discussions? I assume not...
"hasn't been updated in forever"? I don't quite consider a little under two months "forever"...
For its offtopic-ness and its excessive whitespace, this message has earned a "Troll" moderation from me. (Also, while not really grounds for moderation down, this post has other pitiful characteristics: the author states only their opinion, with no explanation of his/her reasoning, and provides no other useful information, or an argument, or anything like that.)
>Too many images floating back and forth,
I wonder if multimegabyte print media preproduction images of harmless stuff could go through quite easily. That would also give you a lot of room to hide extraneous data.
>or accidently using an image thats available elsewhere
You can easily get around this by creating your own digital image (e.g. bring a digital camera). However, as was mentioned, deniability is useful, and this might affect it.
This is something I've wondered for a while about recording companies' wierd file-first-and-ask-questions-later policy:
my.mp3.com... At least they try to limit content access to at least those who have had a real physical duplicate of the album at some point.
But, yet, they get sued by record companies. The solid basis of the record companies case: The copies that the users are accessing are not copies of the cds they purchased, but of copies from another source. In other words, their case is based on a technicalty. But, likely a solid one.
Why, though? If record companies kill my.mp3.com and verifier-controlled services like it, then all the users will move over to unchecked storage sites like myplay.com and distributed file sharing systems like napster, gnutella, freenet, etc., all (or at least most if indexing is contributory infringement) of which are protected by the betamax ruling, because they have one or more significant legitimate uses. Are they really that short-sighted?
Unethical, vs. immoral, inappropriate, illegal, etc.
Notice that something can be unethical, and I can still not give a wet slap about it.
If this confuses you, go buy a decent dictionary.
Where the hell did this guy come from? I assume that the french translation is there because Ottawa has a predeliction for bilingual signage, not to mention a large number of french-speaking and bilingual people, it being the capitol and right across from Hull and all. I don't see why this person wouldn't know that.
BTW, Ottawa isn't a province (or did you mean Ontario?). There are plenty of french-speaking people in Canada outside of Quebec, and plenty of non-French-speaking people inside Quebec.
Minor nitpick: That abbreviation would probably be the other way around in French.
s/sneak into my place, put keyboard sniffers/park a tempest-equipped listening van nearby/
Everything from ATI blows? Not performance-wise...
See the review of the Radeon on Tom's Hardware.
But caveat: While the specs of the final models seem to have been decided on, the Radeon isn't exactly a shipping product yet.
Well, you're already paying for the midrange 3D features of the integrated Rage 128-based video...
Did you even look at the MAPS web site?
No criteria?
What about those on the "Getting on the RBL" page?
(http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/candidacy.html)
No way to get off?
What about the instructions on the "Getting off the RBL" page?
(http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/getoff.html)
People who complain that no information is available when they obviously haven't even bothered to look at all really piss me off.
"for another entity to unilaterally deny users who are not their customers the right to use the service, however flawed it may or may not be, and to do so by undermining the very IP protocols we all rely on is reprehensible in the extreme. "
Right. But they're not doing that.
"They will also be required to only allow persons 18 and over to play them." This is a restriction, no?
Passing through that curtain will probably be much more of a problem for Mr. Moron, here. =)
Hey, troll, read the article before posting next time!
Really? Their web site doesn't mention that...
Well, MD has non-linear editing and recording on the go, is more scratch resistant, is smaller but holds less. A low-end portable md recorder costs around the same as a low-end burner and an mp3 cd player. The media cost 2x - 4x more per piece (even a higher factor than that per minute of audio).
Now, if only we could dump this stupid AHRA & SCMS so that manufacturers could actually put direct data access on these things...
Hey, all. Just looked at the specs for this thing...
Is there anything this product does that a $5 audio cable and a copy of [insert your favourite free mp3 player here] won't do?
"clips dynamic range"
Huh? Did you adjust the input levels?
Next time, read the manual. =)
The Quebec constitution is available at:
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http://doc.gouv.qc.ca/cgi/search.cgi?query="lib
IIRC, the french version has precedence in case of any dispute in meaning.
Wrong: a) The Charter of Rights and Freedoms is federal, and applies to Quebec regardless of their not signing it. But, obviously they can just use section 33 to enact labelling language laws. and b) Quebec also has a provincial constitution. (The eventual watering down of the signage provisions introduced in Bill 101 was due in part to a case involving the provincial constitution. Again, Quebec used the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms section 33 [the "notwithstanding" clause] to get around its freedom of expression provisions.
Why wait for ICANN support? Why not just start an open TLD unilaterally (see the .o proposal in my posting history), start some public servers, slowly gather support from the oss community and whoever else wants to use it, and work out the "ICANN blessing" later?
What was that, a troll post?
Huh? Physics _is_ science.