The truth, Lovecraftian though it may be, is inexorable and those who are exposed to it have but a single choice to make; deal with that truth. There is only one real Truth that no one can wish away- Death. And this is not merely the death of a biological organism, but the inevitable death of everything that is for a moment and must pass away into the oblivion from whence it came.
What is the most curious for me to watch is how subtly, how utterly imperceptible that evolution into non-existence really is. These so-called 'Christians' do not even realize that they are less and less like their predecessors. They are only vaguely aware through dreams of Apocalypse of the Truth that will overtake them in the end. Time heeds no god and this universe simply does not care what their book has to say about how it brings life to a planet and demolishes that life 8 billion years later. The real truth of this Universe is quite plain;
Evolve or die. If you are reading this and having troulbe with what that means, then go back to a real biology course and learn the definition of Evolution. When you are equipped to have that conversation, I'll discuss why pipe dreams don't solve the problems of homo-sapiens. Until then, we have nothing to discuss since the disease of the mind that hampers solid reasoning skills dubbed 'faith' by the misled and befuddled is in just a hurdle in the way of the rest of us who plan to improve our kind.
I think you and I must spell out scientific for these folks in very small words as they still do not get it.
SCIENCE:
A way to find out how things work using a series of tests that seek to identify what is NOT the cause of a change. This is called a trial. When the results of a trial are not what the tester expects, then the test must be changed until the results meet the expectation. Through this series of changes the forces responsible for the outcome of the test can be found out and further studied.
METHOD:
Start with the OPPOSITE OF YOUR HYPOTHESIS. ID'ers get this through your skulls. If you really want to be scientific, you should* be seeking to prove that a divine intelligence is NOT needed to create life. HM. A GOOD scientist will stop immediately and state, "This is not a test that I can perform because I can not control anything said to be divine."
But for the sake of these blasphemous folks, I shall proceed with the method required to prove this innane model.
1. You would first seek to prove the divine intelligence is NOT required to create life and seek actively to find a way to create life through non-sacred means.
2. Once you have proven that no life can be created in this manner, you can then move the next stage and claim that your hypothesis is verified ( NOT PROVEN, but that the result of your test was what you expected!)
So. ID'ers. Get to crackin on that antithesis test and create some life. I think that you will find that not only will you violate some laws, but you will also quickly discover just how NOT scientific ID really is because you have no way to discern divine from non-divine sources!!
I'm glad that a man of faith can accept that faith is not equal to science nor vice versa. These are different subjects, using different methods of reasoning and approaching the world through entirely opposite assumptions.
"Intelligent Design" is not science. Evidence of an unseen phenomenon does not define that phenomenon. We can argue all day and night as to what the phenomenon was that caused this or that, but the blunt truth of the matter is that science, true science, does not care about the purpose of a thing, only the process of that thing. So who or what created this world or life is completely irrelevent to the study of HOW it was done and that* is what evolution is about- a process where by biological change takes place. It is not a cosmology, not a religion, not a philosophy, not a guess, not a poke in the dark, not a proof. It is a model for how the process of biological changes work to produce variances in life. That model just so happens to fit the evidence of life on earth, not completely accidental that this is so since the model was BASED ON THAT EVIDENCE.
Science offers no purpose to life, no meaning to words, no hope to man. It is a means, a tool for studying the process of a thing that is percieved and not one ounce more than that. Those who want it to be a religion are metascientists, not scientists. Those who want religion to be a science are pseudoscientists, not scientists. Neither of these persons are true to the tool or the craft that we know as the process of inductive reasoning that is the very basis upon which the scientific method is based.
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The truth, Lovecraftian though it may be, is inexorable and those who are exposed to it have but a single choice to make; deal with that truth. There is only one real Truth that no one can wish away- Death. And this is not merely the death of a biological organism, but the inevitable death of everything that is for a moment and must pass away into the oblivion from whence it came. What is the most curious for me to watch is how subtly, how utterly imperceptible that evolution into non-existence really is. These so-called 'Christians' do not even realize that they are less and less like their predecessors. They are only vaguely aware through dreams of Apocalypse of the Truth that will overtake them in the end. Time heeds no god and this universe simply does not care what their book has to say about how it brings life to a planet and demolishes that life 8 billion years later. The real truth of this Universe is quite plain; Evolve or die. If you are reading this and having troulbe with what that means, then go back to a real biology course and learn the definition of Evolution. When you are equipped to have that conversation, I'll discuss why pipe dreams don't solve the problems of homo-sapiens. Until then, we have nothing to discuss since the disease of the mind that hampers solid reasoning skills dubbed 'faith' by the misled and befuddled is in just a hurdle in the way of the rest of us who plan to improve our kind.
I think you and I must spell out scientific for these folks in very small words as they still do not get it. SCIENCE: A way to find out how things work using a series of tests that seek to identify what is NOT the cause of a change. This is called a trial. When the results of a trial are not what the tester expects, then the test must be changed until the results meet the expectation. Through this series of changes the forces responsible for the outcome of the test can be found out and further studied. METHOD: Start with the OPPOSITE OF YOUR HYPOTHESIS. ID'ers get this through your skulls. If you really want to be scientific, you should* be seeking to prove that a divine intelligence is NOT needed to create life. HM. A GOOD scientist will stop immediately and state, "This is not a test that I can perform because I can not control anything said to be divine." But for the sake of these blasphemous folks, I shall proceed with the method required to prove this innane model. 1. You would first seek to prove the divine intelligence is NOT required to create life and seek actively to find a way to create life through non-sacred means. 2. Once you have proven that no life can be created in this manner, you can then move the next stage and claim that your hypothesis is verified ( NOT PROVEN, but that the result of your test was what you expected!) So. ID'ers. Get to crackin on that antithesis test and create some life. I think that you will find that not only will you violate some laws, but you will also quickly discover just how NOT scientific ID really is because you have no way to discern divine from non-divine sources!!
I'm glad that a man of faith can accept that faith is not equal to science nor vice versa. These are different subjects, using different methods of reasoning and approaching the world through entirely opposite assumptions.
"Intelligent Design" is not science. Evidence of an unseen phenomenon does not define that phenomenon. We can argue all day and night as to what the phenomenon was that caused this or that, but the blunt truth of the matter is that science, true science, does not care about the purpose of a thing, only the process of that thing. So who or what created this world or life is completely irrelevent to the study of HOW it was done and that* is what evolution is about- a process where by biological change takes place. It is not a cosmology, not a religion, not a philosophy, not a guess, not a poke in the dark, not a proof. It is a model for how the process of biological changes work to produce variances in life. That model just so happens to fit the evidence of life on earth, not completely accidental that this is so since the model was BASED ON THAT EVIDENCE.
Science offers no purpose to life, no meaning to words, no hope to man. It is a means, a tool for studying the process of a thing that is percieved and not one ounce more than that. Those who want it to be a religion are metascientists, not scientists. Those who want religion to be a science are pseudoscientists, not scientists. Neither of these persons are true to the tool or the craft that we know as the process of inductive reasoning that is the very basis upon which the scientific method is based.