What the hell would anyone who is not a network administrator be doing with a packet sniffer? Learning? Not on a corporate network, thank you very much. That is why test LANs are built.
If an unauthorized person is sniffing packets on my company's network, they are going to be in very deep sh*t, I can promise you that.
they try to get their users to go out and spend $15 for a cd they probably wouldn't've bought otherwise
Says who? I haven't seen the list of bands, but I can name five bands without even trying whose CD I want due directly to the fact that I downloaded a song of their's from Napster. I would happily defend Napster and support the band by buying the CD if their name was on the list of supporting bands. Sounds like win, win, win to me.
Tonight I was in a music/video store. I browsed some dvd's with interest, but nothing caught my eye. On the way out I glanced at the cd's and turned up my nose. "Fsck 'em," I thought; went home, and fired up gnapster.
Yeah - the boycott is on until they work out a compromise.
Most just want their God damned word processor to not second guess them, and help them do their JOB.
I totally agree with this. How many times has an "upgrade" caused users to lose productivity just to keep up with MS's newest release? Managers don't always figure in the cost of the upgrade learning curve.
. RTFM? What FM?
Here I disagree. These people are not just key-punchers - they really use these apps. A lot more than I do. If they have a problem with the software not performing a function correctly I will spend all the time necessary to remedy the situation, but if they need training, that is not my job. There are plenty of good books in the bookstore for which my company will reimburse whomever wants to further their education. They ought to use that resource. That said, point taken about the talking paperclip LOL.
Your job might be easier if all your users were not superusers.
God, how I wish my users were all superusers. Power users have taught me more by showing me freakish problems. I love power users - at least if they break it it is interesting to fix. Not like "I didn't know what OLEAUT32.DLL was so I deleted it" which kills me.:)
Heh - I don't forward the line because *all* my calls come in on two lines, one internal and one external. I am a network admin, not telecom and don't even have access to the (Rolm) phone system. Now if you would like to ask a question about computers I think I can oblige you:)
Y'know what would show some appreciation? A phone that doesn't ring every 30 seconds (especially when it is a fax machine that calls four times because someone forgot to dial 9). How about something useful - like a certificate to a book store - left on one's chair? Nah - now I know I'm dreaming...
'fraid so - they too have to deal with clueless users - maybe their plight is even more difficult to bear. If you have an MCSE, aren't you supposed to know how to do every function of Excel, Word, Access, Powerpoint, etc? Users think so.
Users ask me all the time about things like that. Not that I couldn't figure it out in a couple of minutes, but I am not really interested and take the attitude RTFM.
Perhaps that is why I make it a point to eat a large bag of garlic and vinegar flavored potato chips in the afternoons to cut down on nonsensical calls. Then again maybe it's just cause those chips are so good;)
when your job is your favorite thing to do. I don't consider solving computer problems work, I consider it fun -- it also happens to be my job.
Although it is true that people in the technology industry may burnout due to the need for intense concentration for prolonged periods, such focus is more beneficial than destructive IMHO.
I want ultrasound done on my insides so when I see my heart and liver bouncing across the floor after being fragged they look like my heart and liver:)
but they have the added bonus of being really easy to break
You obviously have not been properly MSFT'd - that's a feature.
You can also install pretty screensavers, and cool internet programs to soak up bandwidth, like Napster and RealPlayer
Geez - I wonder if there is any opportunity to tell whoever lets them do that to get his/her head out of his/her ass (politely, of course). Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong with letting the nurses have access to some mindless, relaxing distraction (Lord knows they probably need it), but it ought to be stable and lowest in priority.
Diablo was tons o' fun until everyone used a trainer and became a super-powered PK (player killer) or PKK (player killer killer). No challenge at all, just who had the most ears...
bots get arround the policy the same way that the people offering copyrighted material get arround it. The point is that Napster really just doesn't care.
Perhaps Napster doesn't care, or perhaps it is only technically feasible for Napster to detect a bot as obvious as one that sits in chat and annoys everyone.
Napster is just a pain in the butt to use.
What color is the sky in your world? If you can write a script in 15 minutes how the hell can you have a problem using Napster's client? It's butt simple and if still you don't like it try gnapster for linux (which rocks). If you have a problem with finding or d/l songs you probably just need more bandwidth.
"I think the key is rapid response, and I think we demonstrated that this weekend."
This is true if you are informed by your own people that your product has a flaw. If you are informed by a client, hang your head in shame. The whole point of a firewall is security that should be tested and retested and broken and fixed before it is released.
called remvbs.kix, is available at securityfocus.com. It changes registry entries for.vbs, etc. files so the default application is notepad rather than wscript or cscript.
Napster has caused me to check out several bands that I have heard in passing on the radio. I have a list of CD's I will buy next time I visit the store; I never would have bought half of them if it weren't for Napster.
I have now started trading CD's with music-addicted friends who are convinced they *need* to get high-speed Internet connections if only for Napster. One friend doesn't even have a computer and he is seriously considering getting one just because he has heard my ravings about Napster.
I know many people may just use the PC and portable MP3 players and therefore rip off music artists, but how many people out there already have CD players and do not want to purchase an MP3 player too? IMNSHO, Napster's technology is inevitable and we may as well put the best face on it we can.
Thanks - you have just developed a worm. I just forwarded this to everyone in my address book. They will then read it and be compelled to forward it to everyone in their address books, and so on...:)
Yes - this sentiment is often voiced as: "if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem."
I would agree that everyone needs to assess their own level of accountability, but the prior poster is quite right in acknowledging people who work for M$ but oppose its business practices. I can't stand M$, but I can respect people who work there and deplore M$'s business practices.
I expect that alt.linux.advocacy would encourage us to accept those who align themselves with open source, no matter who they work for -- that is just their day job:)
Yahoo!'s Privacy Policy further states, in relevant part,"This Privacy Policy will let you know: what personally identifiable information is being collected from you; how your information is used; who is collecting your information; with whom your information may be shared; what choices are available to you regarding collection, use, and distribution of your information," etc.
Amen - can you believe that three of the eleven boneheads who executed the attachment at my company actually work in IT? I want to give the three of 'em a Stooges' slap.
"Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence" doesn't cover it in this case. I don't believe fof a second that anyone capable of writing even that VB script would be stupid enough to disclose their identity, particularly not so blatantly. Some identifiable clue perhaps, but not a freaking email address!
Whomever wrote that mean little thing (I'm not saying the recent news about copyright infringement on MP3's is related, but...) was not interested in really screwing up machines as they were in:
Slashdot Mirror
If an unauthorized person is sniffing packets on my company's network, they are going to be in very deep sh*t, I can promise you that.
Says who? I haven't seen the list of bands, but I can name five bands without even trying whose CD I want due directly to the fact that I downloaded a song of their's from Napster. I would happily defend Napster and support the band by buying the CD if their name was on the list of supporting bands. Sounds like win, win, win to me.
Yeah - the boycott is on until they work out a compromise.
I totally agree with this. How many times has an "upgrade" caused users to lose productivity just to keep up with MS's newest release? Managers don't always figure in the cost of the upgrade learning curve.
. RTFM? What FM?
Here I disagree. These people are not just key-punchers - they really use these apps. A lot more than I do. If they have a problem with the software not performing a function correctly I will spend all the time necessary to remedy the situation, but if they need training, that is not my job. There are plenty of good books in the bookstore for which my company will reimburse whomever wants to further their education. They ought to use that resource. That said, point taken about the talking paperclip LOL.
Your job might be easier if all your users were not superusers.
God, how I wish my users were all superusers. Power users have taught me more by showing me freakish problems. I love power users - at least if they break it it is interesting to fix. Not like "I didn't know what OLEAUT32.DLL was so I deleted it" which kills me. :)
Heh - I don't forward the line because *all* my calls come in on two lines, one internal and one external. I am a network admin, not telecom and don't even have access to the (Rolm) phone system. Now if you would like to ask a question about computers I think I can oblige you :)
Y'know what would show some appreciation? A phone that doesn't ring every 30 seconds (especially when it is a fax machine that calls four times because someone forgot to dial 9). How about something useful - like a certificate to a book store - left on one's chair? Nah - now I know I'm dreaming...
Users ask me all the time about things like that. Not that I couldn't figure it out in a couple of minutes, but I am not really interested and take the attitude RTFM.
Perhaps that is why I make it a point to eat a large bag of garlic and vinegar flavored potato chips in the afternoons to cut down on nonsensical calls. Then again maybe it's just cause those chips are so good ;)
Although it is true that people in the technology industry may burnout due to the need for intense concentration for prolonged periods, such focus is more beneficial than destructive IMHO.
BTW, that was really well written, Mr. Katz.
I want ultrasound done on my insides so when I see my heart and liver bouncing across the floor after being fragged they look like my heart and liver :)
Way to see the upside of things ...
(smartass remark)
shouldn't that be grammatical errors?
(/smartass remark)
You obviously have not been properly MSFT'd - that's a feature.
You can also install pretty screensavers, and cool internet programs to soak up bandwidth, like Napster and RealPlayer
Geez - I wonder if there is any opportunity to tell whoever lets them do that to get his/her head out of his/her ass (politely, of course). Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong with letting the nurses have access to some mindless, relaxing distraction (Lord knows they probably need it), but it ought to be stable and lowest in priority.
Diablo was tons o' fun until everyone used a trainer and became a super-powered PK (player killer) or PKK (player killer killer). No challenge at all, just who had the most ears ...
Perhaps Napster doesn't care, or perhaps it is only technically feasible for Napster to detect a bot as obvious as one that sits in chat and annoys everyone.
Napster is just a pain in the butt to use.
What color is the sky in your world? If you can write a script in 15 minutes how the hell can you have a problem using Napster's client? It's butt simple and if still you don't like it try gnapster for linux (which rocks). If you have a problem with finding or d/l songs you probably just need more bandwidth.
Now that list is going to get some subscribers ;)
This is true if you are informed by your own people that your product has a flaw. If you are informed by a client, hang your head in shame. The whole point of a firewall is security that should be tested and retested and broken and fixed before it is released.
What a black eye for NAI's reputation ...
called remvbs.kix, is available at securityfocus.com. It changes registry entries for .vbs, etc. files so the default application is notepad rather than wscript or cscript.
I have now started trading CD's with music-addicted friends who are convinced they *need* to get high-speed Internet connections if only for Napster. One friend doesn't even have a computer and he is seriously considering getting one just because he has heard my ravings about Napster.
I know many people may just use the PC and portable MP3 players and therefore rip off music artists, but how many people out there already have CD players and do not want to purchase an MP3 player too? IMNSHO, Napster's technology is inevitable and we may as well put the best face on it we can.
thet yu shoodn't mess with ze sveedish chef!!
Rather than doing something creative like remvbs.kix available at securityfocus.com
Thanks - you have just developed a worm. I just forwarded this to everyone in my address book. They will then read it and be compelled to forward it to everyone in their address books, and so on ... :)
I would agree that everyone needs to assess their own level of accountability, but the prior poster is quite right in acknowledging people who work for M$ but oppose its business practices. I can't stand M$, but I can respect people who work there and deplore M$'s business practices.
I expect that alt.linux.advocacy would encourage us to accept those who align themselves with open source, no matter who they work for -- that is just their day job :)
Sounds like a direct violation of this clause.
Amen - can you believe that three of the eleven boneheads who executed the attachment at my company actually work in IT? I want to give the three of 'em a Stooges' slap.
Whomever wrote that mean little thing (I'm not saying the recent news about copyright infringement on MP3's is related, but ...) was not interested in really screwing up machines as they were in:
getting/increasing attention from the media
pissing off some guy in Manila
having a laugh at the rest of the world
my $0.02