Missing is any claim that the Steel document contains actual falsehoods.
Also missing is any claim the Steele dossier contains any actual facts.
Note that Steel was a highly regarded source with a reputation for accuracy.
It really depends on who you ask...
Ask yourself this, if he was widely regarded as a trusted source why was it so hard for Fusion GPS to place any of their 'trusted intelligence' from him regarding Trump in the press? They shopped it all over until finally one website took the bait and ran with it, cautioning the reader nothing in the following piece has been verified?
Fusion GPS initially investigated 16 GOP candidates funded by Washington Free Beacon.
After that effort ended, the DNC funded focused research into one candidate, not all 16, and with the HRC & DNC deeper pockets hired Steele who created the dossier.
Is it possible Steele built on something Fusion GPS staffers found in the previous investigation? Sure, but only a fool would hire Steele to repackage opposition research they already had.
So let me get this straight; We know Christopher Steele an ex-MI6 agent paid for info from the Russian Kremlin and sold it to FusionGPS, who intern sold it to the DNC who then gave it to the FBI. This sounds the Russians are playing the DNC as the fools they are?
Taking it without a grain of salt or two is idiotic.
Agreed, as is taking Democrat's word that their super-secret 10 Page memo proves the Republican'smemo is false, but darn it the Republicans won't let us show it to you!
...and then when funding dried up, Fusion GPS sought new sponsors, HRC & the DNC, and brought in Michael Steele to craft what would become known as the 'dossier'.
No Washington Free Beacon money was used to fund the dossier, it all ran out long before Steele was on scene.
Which parts? Seriously, which parts of the Steele dossier "were corroborated"? I am not aware of anything in that dossier that has been "corroborated".
Forgotten about the right wing Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, who reported the words of Papadopuols that clearly showed Russian collusion of the Trump campaign?
Seriously? "Clearly showed Russian Collusion"? Which MSNBC 'analyst' put that notion in your head. As I recall, Papadopoulos was offered dirt on Hillary, but it never came. On the other hand, Hillary's campaign funneled funds through a law firm to pay Fusion GPS, who in turn paid Steele, who in turn paid high-ranking Russian officials for dirt on Trump, and after losing the election found a way to leverage their opposition research into an investigation of the sitting president...
The entire democrat counter-argument to the Nunes memo is "Is Not!"
I eagerly await the release of the FISA warrant applications/reapplications.
and that there's a strongly dissenting minority memo (from Schiff, who has seen the intelligence), arguing that much of this memo is distortions and outright falsehoods,
Is this the same Schiff that has been telling anyone that will listen for the past year that he personally has seen better than circumstantial evidence that trump's campaign colluded with the Russians.?
His statements are little more than soothing words to his democrat base that lacks the ability to critically evaluate claims they really, REALLY want to be true.
So the legal standard for getting a warrant to surveil someone is that you personally didn't write it?
The Steele Dossier was an unverified document - that means nothing of any significance can be corroborated - and that document was presented to a FISA court judge as something other than what it was, a script for an anti-Trump campaign commercial by Team Hillary.
So, if I understand your position, the government could submit a copy of the national enquirer to a FISA court and get a warrant to wiretap whoever happens to be on the cover?
I prefer my super-secret government courts to employ a slightly higher standard than that.
The investigation confirmed that his script for the drill included the phrase "this is not a drill" (though it also began and ended with the words "exercise, exercise, exercise.")
Reminds me of the original Orson Wells 'War of the Worlds' broadcast which alerted listeners to it's fictional nature before and after each commercial break, but some didn't listen long enough to hear the disclaimers...
Why would you create an "exercise, exercise, exercise" that has as part of it's script the words "this is not a drill"? How did anyone think that was a good plan?
Putting all practical problems that need to be overcome, and believing every promise such an effort implies, how exactly would any gov't ever issue the permits to DESTROY such a MASSIVE ecosystem?
Windows 10 was released mid-2015, office 2019 will ship almost 4 years later, and of course Office 2016 and Office 2013 as well as Office 2010 will all work on several well-deprecated OSes when Office 2019 is released.
I am certain that Apple's latest version of Pages, iMovie, etc. all run perfectly fine and are supported on 4 year-old OS X releases... right?
Will the latest OS X even install on a 4 year-old Mac?
I question how much money Montana actually spends on ISP services?
For example, many/most public schools pay for internet services with federal eRate money.
Many/most municipalities negotiate monopoly service agreements with carriers in exchange for free internet service connections for libraries, gov't offices, etc.
It's fine for the state to take a principled stand on the issue, but this will have ZERO effect on the average citizen of the state, except maybe causing their gov't to spend more money for internet service, yay.
You mean aside from the summary of the article this discussion is about? How about the actual regulation changed by the FCC? You read it, right - the regulation, not the linked-to article, right? Or did you just decide you knew better and puked out a rebuttal without doing any research at all?
Granted, the U.S. government's financial position is vastly worse, but that still doesn't exactly bode well for the Golden State.
Yes, but only the federal gov't can literally print it's way out of debt.
For example, isn't it interesting how many movie productions find it cheaper to move production 1-2 thousand miles away from Hollywood, transporting, housing, and feeding a cast and crew that largely came from Hollywood to make their movie? But no worries, once Gov. Moonbeam delivers the SF-LA bullet train project in on-time and under-budget, things will get better.
I bought a brand-new iPhone SE at $150 and apple care for another $100, so I have a three year guaranteed iPhone at $250/36 moths, or about $7/mo, cheaper than most carrier warranty programs before the deductible (avg insurance cost is about $10/mo I believe).
"Posing as American activists, Russian government-linked trolls created 129 Facebook events between 2015 and 2017,"
What, 129 "events" over the course of three years? That isn't even one a week!
Too bad CNN lacks the ability to research any of these so-called "events", I guess they don't have access to any historical information about what went on in the country between 2015 and 2017.
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Missing is any claim that the Steel document contains actual falsehoods.
Also missing is any claim the Steele dossier contains any actual facts.
Note that Steel was a highly regarded source with a reputation for accuracy.
It really depends on who you ask...
Ask yourself this, if he was widely regarded as a trusted source why was it so hard for Fusion GPS to place any of their 'trusted intelligence' from him regarding Trump in the press? They shopped it all over until finally one website took the bait and ran with it, cautioning the reader nothing in the following piece has been verified?
Unless you funnel the payment through a law firm and label it 'legal work' on FEC finance forms...
Luckily that's what team Hillary did.
Fusion GPS initially investigated 16 GOP candidates funded by Washington Free Beacon.
After that effort ended, the DNC funded focused research into one candidate, not all 16, and with the HRC & DNC deeper pockets hired Steele who created the dossier.
Is it possible Steele built on something Fusion GPS staffers found in the previous investigation? Sure, but only a fool would hire Steele to repackage opposition research they already had.
So let me get this straight; We know Christopher Steele an ex-MI6 agent paid for info from the Russian Kremlin and sold it to FusionGPS, who intern sold it to the DNC who then gave it to the FBI. This sounds the Russians are playing the DNC as the fools they are?
FTFY
Taking it without a grain of salt or two is idiotic.
Agreed, as is taking Democrat's word that their super-secret 10 Page memo proves the Republican'smemo is false, but darn it the Republicans won't let us show it to you!
Nor can we get the absurdly large amount of cash (ie buying elections) out of the voting process.
Just a reminder, the HRC billion dollar campaign came in second in the 2016 election - Trump spent about 1/2 as much as HRC and won.
Big money lost in 2016.
...and then when funding dried up, Fusion GPS sought new sponsors, HRC & the DNC, and brought in Michael Steele to craft what would become known as the 'dossier'.
No Washington Free Beacon money was used to fund the dossier, it all ran out long before Steele was on scene.
The real, non-rhetorical question is: why is using that research in this way very bad?
Because opposition research doesn't have to be true, it just needs to be useful as a means to disgracing your political opponent.
Parts of the Steele dossier were corroborated
Which parts? Seriously, which parts of the Steele dossier "were corroborated"? I am not aware of anything in that dossier that has been "corroborated".
Asked if that was a true representation, a source familiar with McCabeâ(TM)s testimony responded: âoe100% not.â
A senior Democratic House intelligence committee official agreed.
What does Andrew McCabe say about his testimony? This is a knowable fact, there is a transcript and the speaker of the quote is still alive.
So could the FBI go to a FISA court and cite Rachel Maddow's monologue the previous night as supporting evidence for a surveillance warrant?
I hope not.
Forgotten about the right wing Australian diplomat, Alexander Downer, who reported the words of Papadopuols that clearly showed Russian collusion of the Trump campaign?
Seriously? "Clearly showed Russian Collusion"? Which MSNBC 'analyst' put that notion in your head. As I recall, Papadopoulos was offered dirt on Hillary, but it never came. On the other hand, Hillary's campaign funneled funds through a law firm to pay Fusion GPS, who in turn paid Steele, who in turn paid high-ranking Russian officials for dirt on Trump, and after losing the election found a way to leverage their opposition research into an investigation of the sitting president...
The entire democrat counter-argument to the Nunes memo is "Is Not!"
I eagerly await the release of the FISA warrant applications/reapplications.
and that there's a strongly dissenting minority memo (from Schiff, who has seen the intelligence), arguing that much of this memo is distortions and outright falsehoods,
Is this the same Schiff that has been telling anyone that will listen for the past year that he personally has seen better than circumstantial evidence that trump's campaign colluded with the Russians.?
His statements are little more than soothing words to his democrat base that lacks the ability to critically evaluate claims they really, REALLY want to be true.
The FBI doesn't "exonerate" anyone.
James Comey, Hillary Clinton, and some 70 million democrat voters in the last election thinks the FBI did exactly that in the summer and fall of 2016.
Really?
So the legal standard for getting a warrant to surveil someone is that you personally didn't write it?
The Steele Dossier was an unverified document - that means nothing of any significance can be corroborated - and that document was presented to a FISA court judge as something other than what it was, a script for an anti-Trump campaign commercial by Team Hillary.
So, if I understand your position, the government could submit a copy of the national enquirer to a FISA court and get a warrant to wiretap whoever happens to be on the cover?
I prefer my super-secret government courts to employ a slightly higher standard than that.
The investigation confirmed that his script for the drill included the phrase "this is not a drill" (though it also began and ended with the words "exercise, exercise, exercise.")
Reminds me of the original Orson Wells 'War of the Worlds' broadcast which alerted listeners to it's fictional nature before and after each commercial break, but some didn't listen long enough to hear the disclaimers...
Why would you create an "exercise, exercise, exercise" that has as part of it's script the words "this is not a drill"? How did anyone think that was a good plan?
Putting all practical problems that need to be overcome, and believing every promise such an effort implies, how exactly would any gov't ever issue the permits to DESTROY such a MASSIVE ecosystem?
Windows 10 was released mid-2015, office 2019 will ship almost 4 years later, and of course Office 2016 and Office 2013 as well as Office 2010 will all work on several well-deprecated OSes when Office 2019 is released.
I am certain that Apple's latest version of Pages, iMovie, etc. all run perfectly fine and are supported on 4 year-old OS X releases... right?
Will the latest OS X even install on a 4 year-old Mac?
I question how much money Montana actually spends on ISP services?
For example, many/most public schools pay for internet services with federal eRate money.
Many/most municipalities negotiate monopoly service agreements with carriers in exchange for free internet service connections for libraries, gov't offices, etc.
It's fine for the state to take a principled stand on the issue, but this will have ZERO effect on the average citizen of the state, except maybe causing their gov't to spend more money for internet service, yay.
Got an authorative source for this?
You mean aside from the summary of the article this discussion is about? How about the actual regulation changed by the FCC? You read it, right - the regulation, not the linked-to article, right? Or did you just decide you knew better and puked out a rebuttal without doing any research at all?
Granted, the U.S. government's financial position is vastly worse, but that still doesn't exactly bode well for the Golden State.
Yes, but only the federal gov't can literally print it's way out of debt.
For example, isn't it interesting how many movie productions find it cheaper to move production 1-2 thousand miles away from Hollywood, transporting, housing, and feeding a cast and crew that largely came from Hollywood to make their movie? But no worries, once Gov. Moonbeam delivers the SF-LA bullet train project in on-time and under-budget, things will get better.
I bought my SE for $150 at big box retailer, Apple care for $100, to replace a screen damaged iPhone 5.
Older consumers would welcome a larger screen, but balk at $600-800 price of those larger marvels of technology.
I bought a brand-new iPhone SE at $150 and apple care for another $100, so I have a three year guaranteed iPhone at $250/36 moths, or about $7/mo, cheaper than most carrier warranty programs before the deductible (avg insurance cost is about $10/mo I believe).
"Posing as American activists, Russian government-linked trolls created 129 Facebook events between 2015 and 2017,"
What, 129 "events" over the course of three years? That isn't even one a week!
Too bad CNN lacks the ability to research any of these so-called "events", I guess they don't have access to any historical information about what went on in the country between 2015 and 2017.