Ah OK. The way you said nightly in the first part of the sentence and Minefield in the second part made it seem like you were making a distinction between the two.
Seriously. In fact, nightlies or even betas shouldn't be used by people who aren't actually testing the browser and just trying something out, if they're just going to complain about how things are broken. Mozilla should start disallowing hotlinking to nightly builds so that people are forced to read the warnings, and get the websites that are putting up erroneous articles about Minefield to put up corrected versions that explain what Minefield really is.
I don't know what's wrong with the internet recently, but Minefield IS Firefox, it's the development trunk. As such, it WILL NOT run when Firefox is already running, and it WILL mess with your Firefox profile. I'm not sure which useless blog started the Minefield circle-jerk but it's ridiculous. People who have been testing nightlies for a while know to make a new profile for the nightlies because it can interfere with Firefox's profile, but random people who just see it on a website aren't going to know that, and it's going to be a headache for the people over at Mozillazine. If you really want to test nightlies, then great, but do it the right way and don't complain when it eats your profile or dies on your favorite site.
I experienced the same thing, although a little bit better in my case. Sometimes in Linux my newer (~5 months old) laptop decides to turn off the screen or something, but no amount of coaxing would get it to wake back up, except ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X.
Vista does have an option for services to have a delayed start, which is kind of useful but not quite what we'd want. It would be nice if the OS could load things in stages and load just enough for the desktop to show and web browsers to run, and then background load the rest, since these days web browsers are used more than anything else.
Yeah, but clearly the mods are on crack because my post definitely does not warrant +4 funny, and I don't see how the other point was funny at all. I would think that the anti-MS bias would have caused that post to get modded flamebait or something, but funny is an interesting moderation.
Well, I'm not advocating anything, for one thing, but personally I've mostly programmed in Java, and never.Net. But I've always assumed that.Net was kind of Microsoft's attempt at replicating Java, so I figured it would be the same, although at least with Java, you don't even need a recompile for changing between PC OSes. I've been writing a game with a friend in Java and the same binaries work in Windows and Linux, and I assume if I had an OS X machine to test on they would work too. It seems like the same would be true for.Net, with perhaps slight library differences on smartphones, and I guess there was nothing in his post that even hinted at sarcasm so that's why I was really wondering.
Nah, I was seriously curious. I know what IceWeasel is, that was why I asked. When I said free I meant Free (gah!), I obviously know that Firefox is just as cost-less as IceWeasel. I always forget the locked in to Windows at work problem since I'm in college though. In my opinion using IceWeasel is kind of a really ideologically motivated choice, and nothing more, and I just don't see the point. But thanks for the informative post.
Says the guy with the UID 30% bigger than mine. But seriously, what? The guy made a valid point, and he gets modded funny? Also, wtf I got modded funny? Smartphones are serious business people.
Incidentally, I've been noticing that "Iceweasel for Windows" link in your sig every now and then, what's really the point of using "completely free" software on an unfree OS? Not trying to start a flamewar or anything, but I don't really see the point of Iceweasel in the first place, and IceWeasel on Windows even less.
Agreed. I'm working on a two-person project and I use eclipse and the other guy uses Oracle Jdeveloper, and both have SVN plugins. There is a mercurial plugin for eclipse, but not Jdev so it's not that much of an option. There is TortoiseHg but after using an IDE plugin using a Windows plugin is just icky. Yes, I do use Windows primarily, and for similar reasons that I use SVN- they both work for me and I see no major problems with them. I use Linux primarily in an academic manner (i.e. to learn about it), and while I'm comfortable with the command line I prefer IDE integration. I guess since I've only worked on a few projects, mostly 1 person or occasionally somewhere from 2 to 5, I haven't needed branching/merging.
I guess my advice is just use what works for you, although it sounds like for most bigger projects DVCS is better. For this two-person project I was trying to research DVCSs, but couldn't really find much difference except for the fact that Git sucks on Windows. I would have used Hg but it seems like you need a centralized repository somewhere anyway, and I don't really understand how you're supposed to use a DVCS I guess so we ended up sticking with SVN.
I realize you were joking, but of course it can't, it's running Intel integrated GPUs, no number of which could make Crysis playable at even low settings.
The CPU doesn't limit the speed, but firewire is faster because it has specialized hardware for it. I don't know the technical details but real-world performance proves me right. I think the problem is that doing it on CPU takes longer than doing it on specialized hardware, no matter how fast your CPU is.
That's not the point. The fact that firewire is done in hardware gives it virtually no overhead, and it's specialized for what it does. I don't think just upgrading your CPU would increase USB transfer speeds, but feel free to do some tests to back that up.
Well, Blu-Ray had more backing and I think the PS3 playing Blu-Ray had a large part in its success. Not that many people are going to buy an HD-DVD player just to watch movies, because they probably can't tell the difference, but more people might get a PS3 for gaming and then realize that they've also got a Blu-Ray player and buy some stuff for that. I think there was also a time when Sony was giving away 5 Blu-Ray movies for anyone who bought a PS3, which helps.
Really? I bought a camcorder recently and most of the offerings were Firewire. Firewire really works better for video. USB doesn't really have the sustained bandwidth for the job. Digital cameras absolutely suck for video.
As an aside, has anyone else been typing Firefox a lot instead of Firewire in this thread? It's really annoying, but kind of amusing.
Well, the thing is with OS X you've already bought some Apple hardware, which is really the ultimate form of rights management. With Windows it's a different story since you're not paying Microsoft for the hardware, but the software so they have more of an incentive to charge as much as possible. That said, they should really do away with the retail priced versions of Vista because it doesn't help their case at all, even though (in my opinion at least) no one in their right mind would buy a retail version of Windows since they would either get an upgrade version or OEM.
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Ah OK. The way you said nightly in the first part of the sentence and Minefield in the second part made it seem like you were making a distinction between the two.
Hobbles performance, you say? Not since SP1, but thanks for playing.
Minefield IS the nightly build, it was probably just a bad bug that was checked in that day.
Seriously. In fact, nightlies or even betas shouldn't be used by people who aren't actually testing the browser and just trying something out, if they're just going to complain about how things are broken. Mozilla should start disallowing hotlinking to nightly builds so that people are forced to read the warnings, and get the websites that are putting up erroneous articles about Minefield to put up corrected versions that explain what Minefield really is.
I don't know what's wrong with the internet recently, but Minefield IS Firefox, it's the development trunk. As such, it WILL NOT run when Firefox is already running, and it WILL mess with your Firefox profile. I'm not sure which useless blog started the Minefield circle-jerk but it's ridiculous. People who have been testing nightlies for a while know to make a new profile for the nightlies because it can interfere with Firefox's profile, but random people who just see it on a website aren't going to know that, and it's going to be a headache for the people over at Mozillazine. If you really want to test nightlies, then great, but do it the right way and don't complain when it eats your profile or dies on your favorite site.
I experienced the same thing, although a little bit better in my case. Sometimes in Linux my newer (~5 months old) laptop decides to turn off the screen or something, but no amount of coaxing would get it to wake back up, except ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X.
Argh, I mean Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs.
Ah, WinFLP=Windows for Legacy PCs. For those too lazy to google it themselves.
Vista does have an option for services to have a delayed start, which is kind of useful but not quite what we'd want. It would be nice if the OS could load things in stages and load just enough for the desktop to show and web browsers to run, and then background load the rest, since these days web browsers are used more than anything else.
Yeah, but clearly the mods are on crack because my post definitely does not warrant +4 funny, and I don't see how the other point was funny at all. I would think that the anti-MS bias would have caused that post to get modded flamebait or something, but funny is an interesting moderation.
Ah, that makes more sense now. Thanks for the informative response without calling me a troll like the other guy did.
Well, I'm not advocating anything, for one thing, but personally I've mostly programmed in Java, and never .Net. But I've always assumed that .Net was kind of Microsoft's attempt at replicating Java, so I figured it would be the same, although at least with Java, you don't even need a recompile for changing between PC OSes. I've been writing a game with a friend in Java and the same binaries work in Windows and Linux, and I assume if I had an OS X machine to test on they would work too. It seems like the same would be true for .Net, with perhaps slight library differences on smartphones, and I guess there was nothing in his post that even hinted at sarcasm so that's why I was really wondering.
Nah, I was seriously curious. I know what IceWeasel is, that was why I asked. When I said free I meant Free (gah!), I obviously know that Firefox is just as cost-less as IceWeasel. I always forget the locked in to Windows at work problem since I'm in college though. In my opinion using IceWeasel is kind of a really ideologically motivated choice, and nothing more, and I just don't see the point. But thanks for the informative post.
Better yet, uninstall flash altogether.
Says the guy with the UID 30% bigger than mine. But seriously, what? The guy made a valid point, and he gets modded funny? Also, wtf I got modded funny? Smartphones are serious business people.
Incidentally, I've been noticing that "Iceweasel for Windows" link in your sig every now and then, what's really the point of using "completely free" software on an unfree OS? Not trying to start a flamewar or anything, but I don't really see the point of Iceweasel in the first place, and IceWeasel on Windows even less.
Sorry, but the envy is not a smartphone by any means, it's just a dumbphone with a web browser.
Eh, the mods must be crazy. Why is this modded funny?
Agreed. I'm working on a two-person project and I use eclipse and the other guy uses Oracle Jdeveloper, and both have SVN plugins. There is a mercurial plugin for eclipse, but not Jdev so it's not that much of an option. There is TortoiseHg but after using an IDE plugin using a Windows plugin is just icky. Yes, I do use Windows primarily, and for similar reasons that I use SVN- they both work for me and I see no major problems with them. I use Linux primarily in an academic manner (i.e. to learn about it), and while I'm comfortable with the command line I prefer IDE integration. I guess since I've only worked on a few projects, mostly 1 person or occasionally somewhere from 2 to 5, I haven't needed branching/merging.
I guess my advice is just use what works for you, although it sounds like for most bigger projects DVCS is better. For this two-person project I was trying to research DVCSs, but couldn't really find much difference except for the fact that Git sucks on Windows. I would have used Hg but it seems like you need a centralized repository somewhere anyway, and I don't really understand how you're supposed to use a DVCS I guess so we ended up sticking with SVN.
I realize you were joking, but of course it can't, it's running Intel integrated GPUs, no number of which could make Crysis playable at even low settings.
The CPU doesn't limit the speed, but firewire is faster because it has specialized hardware for it. I don't know the technical details but real-world performance proves me right. I think the problem is that doing it on CPU takes longer than doing it on specialized hardware, no matter how fast your CPU is.
This isn't much more informative, but at least backs me up.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire#Comparison_to_USB
Here's another link: http://www.cwol.com/firewire/firewire-vs-usb.htm
That's not the point. The fact that firewire is done in hardware gives it virtually no overhead, and it's specialized for what it does. I don't think just upgrading your CPU would increase USB transfer speeds, but feel free to do some tests to back that up.
Well, Blu-Ray had more backing and I think the PS3 playing Blu-Ray had a large part in its success. Not that many people are going to buy an HD-DVD player just to watch movies, because they probably can't tell the difference, but more people might get a PS3 for gaming and then realize that they've also got a Blu-Ray player and buy some stuff for that. I think there was also a time when Sony was giving away 5 Blu-Ray movies for anyone who bought a PS3, which helps.
Really? I bought a camcorder recently and most of the offerings were Firewire. Firewire really works better for video. USB doesn't really have the sustained bandwidth for the job. Digital cameras absolutely suck for video.
As an aside, has anyone else been typing Firefox a lot instead of Firewire in this thread? It's really annoying, but kind of amusing.
Well, the thing is with OS X you've already bought some Apple hardware, which is really the ultimate form of rights management. With Windows it's a different story since you're not paying Microsoft for the hardware, but the software so they have more of an incentive to charge as much as possible. That said, they should really do away with the retail priced versions of Vista because it doesn't help their case at all, even though (in my opinion at least) no one in their right mind would buy a retail version of Windows since they would either get an upgrade version or OEM.
If it's a bare hard drive/new system, you can get OEM for $100. Home Premium too, which is basically the non-hobbled version.