I don't think you're paying attention to the credentials of the last two batches of testors. This isn't sloppy work. Harold White (NASA) is highly credentialed and esteemed by his peers. The German team in particular is well known for being a bunch of pedantic twits able to rip apart experiments for their faulty methods. They haven't given up on that chore, but their initial conclusions report an inability to find fault in the experiment and are able to comparably reproduce the results.
This device also doesn't have to violate physics, just our current understanding of it. The quantum world for instance while reasonably modeled is largely just that. A collection of models that fit observed behavior. Who says microwaves cannot interact with something from that world? One of the ideas tossed out there (by White IIRC) was that they were pushing against "virtual particles"
A group of Chinese researchers were the first to claim reproduction of the results. This was followed on by NASA, and now apparently these Germans are taking a stab at it. Somewhere between China and NASA I believe I read LockMart paid the fellow a visit but nothing was ever heard from that.
A two year old, if dropped into the cockpit of a jet plane could theoretically hit the right buttons and pull the right knobs to make the plane go. But that doesn't mean they could reproduce the results, nor explain how they did it.
Solar sails and photon drives produce far less thrust than what is claimed to be being measured with these EM drives. If something real is going on here, it is also almost certain that the experiments represent a sub-optimal design. Nobody has a clue how an EM drive produces thrust. Once that's figured out, if there's something to figure out, more efficient designs can be had producing more thrust with less input.
Not only is Tesla a "new" car company starting from scratch, but a electric car company competing head-to-head with ICE cars.
SpaceX is a private--not from the military industrial complex--company starting from scratch. They're operating on ordinary business margins rather than the--typical for the industry--government "cost-plus" blank check.
Aside from the improbable business side of it, with respect to the technology, both, but particularly Tesla are pioneers in their respective fields. Current day GM vehicles are nothing like a 1905 auto, and in many ways a Tesla is nothing like a current day GM. Your date based argument makes little sense. It is something akin to comparing a stone axe from 1000BC to a modern day chain saw and suggesting that it's nothing new.
He's doing reasonably well with three improbable companies, each with myriad improbable projects. What's trying to slow down J-day going to add to his already improbable plate?
I'm pretty sure, the promise was that "God" would not create another global flood. Mortals can frack it up however they like without violating that promise. But hey, whatever maintains fossil fuel profits...
Of all the religions, I don't think any other religion has come to be so manipulated by outside actors as has American Christianity. How very apt is the metaphor of sheep used to speak of its adherents.
The body requires fat for proper function. The as*hat food manufacturers of the last few decades got everyone brainwashed on the subject, even doctors. As with most things, it's the excess thereof that's the problem. As the saying goes, "all things in moderation."
I've never had traditional dulce (dried) fried, but it starts out with a salty savory flavor. That said, imagining what it'd taste like fried, I think it would be a bit of a stretch to say "bacon." Hopefully these guys have pulled off something special with this variant and we truly will get sea bacon.
The $90 per 500g is the traditional use of dulce as supplement not what sea bacon will cost should it come to market. Their original purpose was for the production of feed for Abalone farming.
Food and food ingredients derived from GE plants must adhere to the same safety requirements under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act that apply to food and food ingredients derived from traditionally bred plants.
The developer produces a safety assessment , which includes the identification of distinguishing attributes of new genetic traits, whether any new material in food made from the GE plant could be toxic or allergenic when eaten, and a comparison of the levels of nutrients in the GE plant to traditionally bred plants.
FDA scientists evaluate the safety assessment and also review relevant data and information that are publicly available in published scientific literature and the agency's own records.
In my book that qualifies as a statement from the company of "trust us." There's no independent verification. Since GMOs are held to the same standard as traditionally bred plants, no standard either really.
Does this mean he's never been (or at least currently not) heard on an FM/AM/XM radio? Can't say as I know who this guy is, but he sounds a rather bit like a pompous ass.
This a thousand times. Nature prevents humans from impregnating hippos, but with GMOs we're accomplishing this as well as things more perverse. No one is stepping up to force safety studies in the manner with which medical drugs are scrutinized. We're just supposed to accept "trust us" statements from the companies themselves. If Monsanto and co. wish to play a calculus with our health and their profits, having the ability to opt. out is important to a lot of people.
And technically all food is some measure of "organic" compounds. But just like that's not what people mean when they say "organic" this also isn't what anyone is talking about with regards to GMO. GMO in this context is quite obviously interpreted to mean synthetic. As in a modification that cannot naturally occur such as inserting a gene from salmon into soy.
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I don't think you're paying attention to the credentials of the last two batches of testors. This isn't sloppy work. Harold White (NASA) is highly credentialed and esteemed by his peers. The German team in particular is well known for being a bunch of pedantic twits able to rip apart experiments for their faulty methods. They haven't given up on that chore, but their initial conclusions report an inability to find fault in the experiment and are able to comparably reproduce the results.
This device also doesn't have to violate physics, just our current understanding of it. The quantum world for instance while reasonably modeled is largely just that. A collection of models that fit observed behavior. Who says microwaves cannot interact with something from that world? One of the ideas tossed out there (by White IIRC) was that they were pushing against "virtual particles"
I mean really, it's in the name of science right?
A group of Chinese researchers were the first to claim reproduction of the results. This was followed on by NASA, and now apparently these Germans are taking a stab at it. Somewhere between China and NASA I believe I read LockMart paid the fellow a visit but nothing was ever heard from that.
The cheap experiments are meant to convince someone with enough money to toss such a device into orbit.
A two year old, if dropped into the cockpit of a jet plane could theoretically hit the right buttons and pull the right knobs to make the plane go. But that doesn't mean they could reproduce the results, nor explain how they did it.
Solar sails and photon drives produce far less thrust than what is claimed to be being measured with these EM drives. If something real is going on here, it is also almost certain that the experiments represent a sub-optimal design. Nobody has a clue how an EM drive produces thrust. Once that's figured out, if there's something to figure out, more efficient designs can be had producing more thrust with less input.
Aside from the improbable business side of it, with respect to the technology, both, but particularly Tesla are pioneers in their respective fields. Current day GM vehicles are nothing like a 1905 auto, and in many ways a Tesla is nothing like a current day GM. Your date based argument makes little sense. It is something akin to comparing a stone axe from 1000BC to a modern day chain saw and suggesting that it's nothing new.
Pretty much no one.
On a lighter note, it will bring new meaning to the term being "swatted." Ought to be good for a few /. posts and ensuing sniggers.
He's doing reasonably well with three improbable companies, each with myriad improbable projects. What's trying to slow down J-day going to add to his already improbable plate?
You imagine wrong.
You must be from Canada...
I'm pretty sure, the promise was that "God" would not create another global flood. Mortals can frack it up however they like without violating that promise. But hey, whatever maintains fossil fuel profits...
Of all the religions, I don't think any other religion has come to be so manipulated by outside actors as has American Christianity. How very apt is the metaphor of sheep used to speak of its adherents.
That would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
There isn't a tax on healthy food, but there is most definitely a subsidy on unhealthy food.
Nothing wrong with kale if utilized by the right chef. It can actually be a rather tasty inclusion in the right dishes.
The body requires fat for proper function. The as*hat food manufacturers of the last few decades got everyone brainwashed on the subject, even doctors. As with most things, it's the excess thereof that's the problem. As the saying goes, "all things in moderation."
I've never had traditional dulce (dried) fried, but it starts out with a salty savory flavor. That said, imagining what it'd taste like fried, I think it would be a bit of a stretch to say "bacon." Hopefully these guys have pulled off something special with this variant and we truly will get sea bacon.
What an interesting idea. I shall have to try it when I get home.
The $90 per 500g is the traditional use of dulce as supplement not what sea bacon will cost should it come to market. Their original purpose was for the production of feed for Abalone farming.
From the FDA's web site (emphasis mine):
Food and food ingredients derived from GE plants must adhere to the same safety requirements under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act that apply to food and food ingredients derived from traditionally bred plants .
The developer produces a safety assessment , which includes the identification of distinguishing attributes of new genetic traits, whether any new material in food made from the GE plant could be toxic or allergenic when eaten, and a comparison of the levels of nutrients in the GE plant to traditionally bred plants.
FDA scientists evaluate the safety assessment and also review relevant data and information that are publicly available in published scientific literature and the agency's own records.
In my book that qualifies as a statement from the company of "trust us." There's no independent verification. Since GMOs are held to the same standard as traditionally bred plants, no standard either really.
Me thinks this fellow needs a hearing aid.
Does this mean he's never been (or at least currently not) heard on an FM/AM/XM radio? Can't say as I know who this guy is, but he sounds a rather bit like a pompous ass.
This a thousand times. Nature prevents humans from impregnating hippos, but with GMOs we're accomplishing this as well as things more perverse. No one is stepping up to force safety studies in the manner with which medical drugs are scrutinized. We're just supposed to accept "trust us" statements from the companies themselves. If Monsanto and co. wish to play a calculus with our health and their profits, having the ability to opt. out is important to a lot of people.
And technically all food is some measure of "organic" compounds. But just like that's not what people mean when they say "organic" this also isn't what anyone is talking about with regards to GMO. GMO in this context is quite obviously interpreted to mean synthetic. As in a modification that cannot naturally occur such as inserting a gene from salmon into soy.