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  1. Don't you guys know what including means? on Flash EULA Doesn't Fit the Times · · Score: 1

    the EULA states:
    "you may not use the Software on any non-PC product or any embedded or device versions of the above operating systems, including, but not limited to... [blah blah blah]"

    This therefore only restricts all non-PC-products or machines with Operating Systems that are embedded or device oriented. Everything listed under their word "including" is subordinate to the first clause (i.e. non-PC product or embedded or device OS versions).

    It doesn't matter if your using your PC as a kiosk, or a DVD player, or a set-top box, or a mobile device, or a handheld, etc. If you run on standard PC hardware and your OS is a desktop version OS then this EULA doesn't restrict your use.

    That's what "including" means. It means if your PC (be it a laptop or other) doesn't fit the definition of the group they're restricting (non-PC or Embedded OS or Device OS systems), then it isn't included - even if it's mentioned as being included. By not fitting the original definition of the group, any mention of being included does not apply to you.

  2. When & what did it say before? Retroactive? on Flash EULA Doesn't Fit the Times · · Score: 1

    The original post gives the impression that Macromedia recently changed their EULA to be so restrictive - but have they really? When did they change it, and what was it before, and if it was changed then to which versions does this EULA apply (is it retroactive)?