I think the only exception there (which often applies to art/image related fields) is if there exists some group that gets its jollies from other groups getting pissed off.
Any marketer or PR person who believe the 'any PR is good PR' is not going to stay in the industry for long. It is an old trope that has sunk many careers. It might have worked pre-internet, but is a horrible idea now.
She profited heavily from a planned/regulated economy, which is what she was fighting against. She and her supporters wouldn't last 10 minutes in an actual capitalist country for the same reason anarchists rarely would survive in actual anarchies.. she depended on the regulation, planning, and protection of her host country while imagining that if those same rules only applied to other people how much better off the elite would be.
Actually, teachers are a category of people who might do this. There have been a number of simple languages that have been developed specifically to get kids (or other students) interested in programming. For instance, someone did port LOGO to android, but as an app rather then a development environment... though this is probably how it would look for BASIC I would assume... an interpreter app.
Now, if the OP is looking for a PC app that takes BASIC and compiles it into a final Android app... that I have trouble picturing anyone bothering with...
Given how many people I see preening over their Droid phones, ranting about how they are SO much better then Apple products and how they are not sheep, I would say there is just as much, if not more, 'status' involved in going Droid. Just because it is 'geek cred' doesn't make it any less so.
Do they have 40-50% share of a much larger market?
That is the important question. For the most part, yes. They have lost the bragging rights of '98%', but they are still laughing all the way to the bank, and in the end that is what their shareholders care about.
This was my thought exactly... these 'this is the year of *insert personal preference*' get rather repetitive. People seem obsessed with whatever they like being accepted by the majority as the 'right' solution.. I guess it is an extension of the 'I am smart, there is one ideal, so if other people do not agree with me either I am stupid or they are stupid, so it is important that my choices for my use case are universally correct, otherwise my ego hurts' meme.
This is actually one of the things that soured a lot of embedded developers to GPLv3... the new rules seemed to be designed to force embedded programmers to open up more but did not effect web based stuff, giving the impression of preferential treatment.
I can not recall where I had found it, but a while back I saw a piece breaking down math and language skills by sex. What it actually came down to was a pair of overlapping bell curves. In the past it was assumed the peaks were at differnt places, with males and females 'mostly' in the same space but not quite. Turns out the peaks were actually around the same spot, but with males being more 'spread out'.. so more high scores but a similiar number of low scores.
Within our culture, we tend to pay attention to the high scoring males and ignore the low scoring ones, giving the impression that males are 'better at math'. Similarly we tend to pay attention to the low scoring language males and ignore the high scoring ones, giving the impression that females are 'better at language'.
Part of the problem is they are essentially outsourcing the decision making, giving private companies a big piece in the say regarding what a legitimate site is and what is not. It is also structured in such a way that site owners do not have a very good mechanism for challenging a shutdown, in fact they might not even have standing since people in other countries do not always have access to the US legal system. So there is very little reason to apply any real standards to what gets shut down and given how badly abused the DCMA's takedown notice has been it is not that much of a leap to picture this law being used the same way.
So even if the law is well intentioned and billed as being used only against dedicated sites, it can and will be abused due to its low barrier of review and high barrier for defense.
Well, part of the modern argument is that only US citizens have rights and that the constitution does not apply to people outside the country.. which kinda goes against the whole 'inalienable rights' concept.
Well, that is the idea. I guess they don't want to potentially piss off companies that actually have a local legal presence and standing to challenge applications.
Can not recall where I found it, but another site had a better breakdown of the issue. It was actually a discussion of if use of virtual training tools like games being used to teach people to commit war crimes was also a crime.. so it was the military training element, not games in general.
Unfortunately, what would probably happen is the patent office will simply say 'no you can not patent legal tactics/issues/etc' and that is the end of it. Carve themselves an exemption and allow the problem to continue. Kinda like how the banking industry got that wonderful exemption to patent suits in the new overhaul, it ended up ONLY applying to banks, even though it was tech companies that had originally lobbied for it.
I have found even when the offshore programmers are skilled, the total cost of the project can still ballon due to integration costs. Having a team 12 time zones away can really slow down shared development and cause communication difficulties that add up over time.
I think they never found a follow through. They produced a lot of good stuff, some of it pretty popular.. but they always seem to lack the will to keep pushing it, as if the people in charge just didn't have enthusasm for modern technology.
That was more of a cautionary tale about insufficient monopoly monitoring. Railroads died (or were really cut back) in the US in large part because a group of auto manufacturers went around buying up regional rails and then dismantling them. So they eliminated the competition.
Actually, I have met professionals who have stuck to film for things like medium and large format. Those are are two domains where digital has not caught up yet.
They will probably have to go the 'flag of some nation' route.
Legally this whole idea is a mess.. they will need their own police and court systems, not to mention their own immigration laws.... and as you point out, this will only really work till they annoy the US enough that the coast guard goes out and seizes the ship for breaking US laws.
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But that might make GMO's seem less evil! Can't have that....
I think the only exception there (which often applies to art/image related fields) is if there exists some group that gets its jollies from other groups getting pissed off.
Any marketer or PR person who believe the 'any PR is good PR' is not going to stay in the industry for long. It is an old trope that has sunk many careers. It might have worked pre-internet, but is a horrible idea now.
She profited heavily from a planned/regulated economy, which is what she was fighting against. She and her supporters wouldn't last 10 minutes in an actual capitalist country for the same reason anarchists rarely would survive in actual anarchies.. she depended on the regulation, planning, and protection of her host country while imagining that if those same rules only applied to other people how much better off the elite would be.
Actually, teachers are a category of people who might do this. There have been a number of simple languages that have been developed specifically to get kids (or other students) interested in programming. For instance, someone did port LOGO to android, but as an app rather then a development environment... though this is probably how it would look for BASIC I would assume... an interpreter app.
Now, if the OP is looking for a PC app that takes BASIC and compiles it into a final Android app... that I have trouble picturing anyone bothering with...
Given how many people I see preening over their Droid phones, ranting about how they are SO much better then Apple products and how they are not sheep, I would say there is just as much, if not more, 'status' involved in going Droid. Just because it is 'geek cred' doesn't make it any less so.
Do they have 40-50% share of a much larger market?
That is the important question. For the most part, yes. They have lost the bragging rights of '98%', but they are still laughing all the way to the bank, and in the end that is what their shareholders care about.
Oh, if I only had mod points ^_^
This was my thought exactly... these 'this is the year of *insert personal preference*' get rather repetitive. People seem obsessed with whatever they like being accepted by the majority as the 'right' solution.. I guess it is an extension of the 'I am smart, there is one ideal, so if other people do not agree with me either I am stupid or they are stupid, so it is important that my choices for my use case are universally correct, otherwise my ego hurts' meme.
Yeah, but it is only 'hacking' when there is no profit involved... so what they did is considered 'ok'.
Not as effective as a laser shark, but probably a lot more versatile.
This is actually one of the things that soured a lot of embedded developers to GPLv3... the new rules seemed to be designed to force embedded programmers to open up more but did not effect web based stuff, giving the impression of preferential treatment.
*nods* that is the major flaw.. there are no consequences for fraudulent takedowns.
So... any science that uses statistics is automatically bad science? That kinda rules out, well.. science.
'spread out' is actually a key word here.
I can not recall where I had found it, but a while back I saw a piece breaking down math and language skills by sex. What it actually came down to was a pair of overlapping bell curves. In the past it was assumed the peaks were at differnt places, with males and females 'mostly' in the same space but not quite. Turns out the peaks were actually around the same spot, but with males being more 'spread out'.. so more high scores but a similiar number of low scores.
Within our culture, we tend to pay attention to the high scoring males and ignore the low scoring ones, giving the impression that males are 'better at math'. Similarly we tend to pay attention to the low scoring language males and ignore the high scoring ones, giving the impression that females are 'better at language'.
Part of the problem is they are essentially outsourcing the decision making, giving private companies a big piece in the say regarding what a legitimate site is and what is not. It is also structured in such a way that site owners do not have a very good mechanism for challenging a shutdown, in fact they might not even have standing since people in other countries do not always have access to the US legal system. So there is very little reason to apply any real standards to what gets shut down and given how badly abused the DCMA's takedown notice has been it is not that much of a leap to picture this law being used the same way.
So even if the law is well intentioned and billed as being used only against dedicated sites, it can and will be abused due to its low barrier of review and high barrier for defense.
Well, part of the modern argument is that only US citizens have rights and that the constitution does not apply to people outside the country.. which kinda goes against the whole 'inalienable rights' concept.
Well, that is the idea. I guess they don't want to potentially piss off companies that actually have a local legal presence and standing to challenge applications.
Can not recall where I found it, but another site had a better breakdown of the issue. It was actually a discussion of if use of virtual training tools like games being used to teach people to commit war crimes was also a crime.. so it was the military training element, not games in general.
Unfortunately, what would probably happen is the patent office will simply say 'no you can not patent legal tactics/issues/etc' and that is the end of it. Carve themselves an exemption and allow the problem to continue. Kinda like how the banking industry got that wonderful exemption to patent suits in the new overhaul, it ended up ONLY applying to banks, even though it was tech companies that had originally lobbied for it.
I have found even when the offshore programmers are skilled, the total cost of the project can still ballon due to integration costs. Having a team 12 time zones away can really slow down shared development and cause communication difficulties that add up over time.
I think they never found a follow through. They produced a lot of good stuff, some of it pretty popular.. but they always seem to lack the will to keep pushing it, as if the people in charge just didn't have enthusasm for modern technology.
That was more of a cautionary tale about insufficient monopoly monitoring. Railroads died (or were really cut back) in the US in large part because a group of auto manufacturers went around buying up regional rails and then dismantling them. So they eliminated the competition.
Actually, I have met professionals who have stuck to film for things like medium and large format. Those are are two domains where digital has not caught up yet.
Found some details. Apparently yes, they plan to take on the flag of some minor country.
They will probably have to go the 'flag of some nation' route.
Legally this whole idea is a mess.. they will need their own police and court systems, not to mention their own immigration laws.... and as you point out, this will only really work till they annoy the US enough that the coast guard goes out and seizes the ship for breaking US laws.