While I don't disaree with you entirely I do think you should give some thought to what kind of pay you will get. If computers are your pashion you don't need to PhD to become an expert. You need a PhD to convince others perhaps but anyone interested enough can get the experience themselves. people who only go into careers for the "love" of it are often times shocked when they get out of school and find that joe drop out is actaully making more money when you factor in student loans etc.
I think you need to think long and hard about all of the issues. Oh and most of your doctors went to med school so they could have the "big house", and certainly almost all of the lawyers did.
"Not being able to drive your 9MPG SUV without having to pay more?"
I take offence to this statement. My new Dodge truck gets 10.9 gallons per mile.
In other news man in Albany NY would love someone to take over payments of new Dodge pickup truck.
Because you are gonna be building the software and not getting paid to do it. The Robot deisngers are getting paid to build....and to program the robots.
"If you expect to sell your own FOSS, then maybe you should rethink things before going into business for yourself"
I think you hit the nail on the head. You can't really make money writing open source software. the only way to make money writing software is to work for some else or sell closed source software.
Both are fine. I personlly don't want to work for MBA's the rest of my life.
I apologize to everyone that I am about to offend. I am sure you are all very nice people.
Most of the people on this board are probably only really good at one thing. Programming. Open Source software kicks as and it is a great thing. But lets assume for 1 second that you succeed and take down closed source software for good. That is take down the software industry as we know it. You will successfully have sealed your own fate. Most of you couldn't smooth talk your way out of anything. Most of you got bullied by the pointy head that is your boss. Most of you don't have even close to what it takes to run a company. You can scream support all you want but mostly you will all be bad at it because you are geeks not human resource people. Being a geek is a great think. But know your place. Do you really want to get paid crap wages to provide support to a some less smart person who is making millions? If you said yes you are by and large full of total shit. Yeah there are some altruistics on the board, but we all have needs. One of those needs is a paycheck. Do you really think you are going to change the world of capitalism because you don't like the current system? Do you really think that all software is going to be open source? Do you really think that the source code that can finally determine what is or is not a drug is going to be freely given away? What world are you people from. You are much smarter than the average person...leaps and bounds really. You should be paid for you hard work and your creativity. Yes capitalism breeds creativity. I did not say patents. I said capitalism. What is wrong with making a million dollars off your hard work. You studied 10 times harder than the MBA's in school. You can out think them on any problem worth thinking about. But yet they will enjoy life to it's fullest while you work so hard to take away your only chance of make a paycheck that you enjoy. I applaud open source....have contributed to it. But it is not the end all be all. OSS really servers one purpose in my mind. It keeps pushing the industry forward and for that I am thankful. Yes Open Office will eventually replace all the real functionality of Office. But during that time microsoft is steady innovating the next grand idea. Sure they will probably eventually lose the Office war. Woopy Ding. By the time Linux becomes the OS of choice MS will be moving past what you know as an OS. Shit people. People are not communists by nature....I DID NOT SAY OSS was Communist. I said the idea that all people should be equal and have equal access is one of the ideals of communism. I for one don't want to be equal to the MBA's I went to school with. I am smarter, more motivated, and I plan on doing something that interests me for the rest of my life. Developing software. You would be wise to see OSS for what it is. You would be wiser to continue to contribute when you can. But the wisest of you will realize that the world has never really been changed by idealists and you are not likely to be the idealist group that succeeds. Even if you do succeeded you will only have succeeded in removing the one career path that most of you introverts are capable of truly excelling at.
BTW I did post as a different user...I see no reason to check my real user id and see that swath of flame that you will probably spew.
Good luck to you all. I hope you grow up and face the world for what it is.
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While I don't disaree with you entirely I do think you should give some thought to what kind of pay you will get. If computers are your pashion you don't need to PhD to become an expert. You need a PhD to convince others perhaps but anyone interested enough can get the experience themselves. people who only go into careers for the "love" of it are often times shocked when they get out of school and find that joe drop out is actaully making more money when you factor in student loans etc. I think you need to think long and hard about all of the issues. Oh and most of your doctors went to med school so they could have the "big house", and certainly almost all of the lawyers did.
"Not being able to drive your 9MPG SUV without having to pay more?" I take offence to this statement. My new Dodge truck gets 10.9 gallons per mile. In other news man in Albany NY would love someone to take over payments of new Dodge pickup truck.
Because you are gonna be building the software and not getting paid to do it. The Robot deisngers are getting paid to build....and to program the robots.
"If you expect to sell your own FOSS, then maybe you should rethink things before going into business for yourself" I think you hit the nail on the head. You can't really make money writing open source software. the only way to make money writing software is to work for some else or sell closed source software. Both are fine. I personlly don't want to work for MBA's the rest of my life.
I apologize to everyone that I am about to offend. I am sure you are all very nice people. Most of the people on this board are probably only really good at one thing. Programming. Open Source software kicks as and it is a great thing. But lets assume for 1 second that you succeed and take down closed source software for good. That is take down the software industry as we know it. You will successfully have sealed your own fate. Most of you couldn't smooth talk your way out of anything. Most of you got bullied by the pointy head that is your boss. Most of you don't have even close to what it takes to run a company. You can scream support all you want but mostly you will all be bad at it because you are geeks not human resource people. Being a geek is a great think. But know your place. Do you really want to get paid crap wages to provide support to a some less smart person who is making millions? If you said yes you are by and large full of total shit. Yeah there are some altruistics on the board, but we all have needs. One of those needs is a paycheck. Do you really think you are going to change the world of capitalism because you don't like the current system? Do you really think that all software is going to be open source? Do you really think that the source code that can finally determine what is or is not a drug is going to be freely given away? What world are you people from. You are much smarter than the average person...leaps and bounds really. You should be paid for you hard work and your creativity. Yes capitalism breeds creativity. I did not say patents. I said capitalism. What is wrong with making a million dollars off your hard work. You studied 10 times harder than the MBA's in school. You can out think them on any problem worth thinking about. But yet they will enjoy life to it's fullest while you work so hard to take away your only chance of make a paycheck that you enjoy. I applaud open source....have contributed to it. But it is not the end all be all. OSS really servers one purpose in my mind. It keeps pushing the industry forward and for that I am thankful. Yes Open Office will eventually replace all the real functionality of Office. But during that time microsoft is steady innovating the next grand idea. Sure they will probably eventually lose the Office war. Woopy Ding. By the time Linux becomes the OS of choice MS will be moving past what you know as an OS. Shit people. People are not communists by nature....I DID NOT SAY OSS was Communist. I said the idea that all people should be equal and have equal access is one of the ideals of communism. I for one don't want to be equal to the MBA's I went to school with. I am smarter, more motivated, and I plan on doing something that interests me for the rest of my life. Developing software. You would be wise to see OSS for what it is. You would be wiser to continue to contribute when you can. But the wisest of you will realize that the world has never really been changed by idealists and you are not likely to be the idealist group that succeeds. Even if you do succeeded you will only have succeeded in removing the one career path that most of you introverts are capable of truly excelling at. BTW I did post as a different user...I see no reason to check my real user id and see that swath of flame that you will probably spew. Good luck to you all. I hope you grow up and face the world for what it is.