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  1. Re:I love Westerners.. on Navy Sued for Sonar-Blasting Whales · · Score: 1

    I agree that the articles I linked to were not from peer-reviewed journals; generally when one performs "trivial googling", you don't get that kind of material. The article which most of these stories rely on for scientific credibility is from Nature, and is only accessible with a subscription. However I found this link: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s962982 .htm through more googling which carries the meat of the paper in it. I would also note that I was not claiming either side was correct; merely that more investigation is required and that the Navy seem to be solving the problem with a very large hammer when one is not necessarily required. Cheers, Rhys Hill

  2. Re:I love Westerners.. on Navy Sued for Sonar-Blasting Whales · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems like a poorly thought-out comment to me. Basically, you are claiming that all environmentalists are terrorists and/or insane? I guess the same would then apply to all Christians, given some of the less than intelligent things a small fractions of their number have done in the past.

    The CNN article doesn't really have much detail. Some trivial googling yielded the following links:

    http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/marine/nlfa.asp
    http://www.eurocbc.org/sonar_lfas_implicated_in_wh ale_deaths_30oct2002page1253.html

    which have more useful information. I think the bigger problem is that the US Navy want to deploy a large scale, permanent sonar system to monitor the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. Such a system would flood both areas of sea with very high volume sonar:

    http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file =/headlines01/0618-03.htm

    Anyway, there is a lot of additional information around about this. Personally, I think the problem of finding submarines should be solvable in a more elegant way than flooding 2 oceans with sonar.

    Cheers,

    Rhys Hill