What does it do that make it deserve a mention as opposed to the other zillion bug tracking systems? The site says they don't support their own language choice any longer.
Bullocks. Although these are different things people who are bored spend their time on (according to the article), wherever they meet, like in AJAX libraries, it has to be noticed the most open licences (MIT/BSD) are used. It's an interesting little place on the Net.. if you go to Sourceforge you'll find the vast majority of licences is GPL, here it's almost solely MIT/BSD. Mutually exclusive you said?
The past years, if articles talked about copyright in relation to something they hate, the music industry, the Slashdot crowd screamed to abolish it, downmodding everyone with reason and pointing out that any other view is evil. However, if you switch to talk about it in relation to something they love, it suddenly turns into a fuck-fest karma whore GPL gangbang affair where everybody seems to agree on the value of copyright. You, sirs, are a bunch of hypocrites;) People should have realised from the start that their hatred of the music industry or of Microsoft does not equal hatred of copyright. Or at least that the consequences of removal are huge. But it's either one way or the other: either the rights on stuff remain with the people that made the stuff, which sounds pretty fair, or anyone that makes something that can be copied, including software developers, work for the good of huminity in general and have to get fed by selling t-shirts.
All economic systems throughout history are based on trading specializations. Removing copyright inherently breaks that. In order for it to work, you must have a world with prosperity for all, and we're not there yet.
Very nice. Compressing my own script worked great. Compressing jquery-lastest.js (to 16K) and calling it from my own script didn't work well though "jQuery.each is not a function"
Am I the only one who usually finds frameworks to be pointless for serious web development? It's not that they're necessarily bad, but that they pack in dozens of features that you don't necessarily need
This was my problem in the open source project, partly Ajax driven, I'm involved in. Exactly for this reason it sported custom coded Javascript from the start. I don't want to load 50K+ javascripts, and I don't want one big script with crap I don't need. If you have some fairly basic stuff which doesn't change much, it's much more efficient to hand-code your own javascript. Also, when this problem arose, and it is still true, these libaries are relatively brand new, and I found it silly to commit a codebase to any of them. However, if you do all your own coding, there are problems such as cross-browser compatibility, and also there is a certain threshold of complexity when you find you're factoring out the same code and problems, and one should consider a switch. But it is a dangerous point which should be a warning sign by itself, because it could imply your stuff is getting too bloated.
It turned out jquery (jquery.com) was the best choice in our case, it addresses exactly my worries by sporting a size of just 20KB, all extras come in modules, and it's very powerful. I'd rather have a 10K version, but there you have it, you can't have it all. How it (or I) work, is to load the core when the page is loaded, and only insert additional scripts (mostly dynamic, i.e. when you click something) when needed. Similary, Yahoo! has a fine, modulized lib which is extremely well documented.
Last but not least it must be noted that all of these frameworks use MIT/BSD style licenses, and I'd like to thank them all for their great tools and generosity.
As much I'd like to, but I think it just means large corporations which may or may not have switch plans in a while, like in 1 or 2 years, still need new PCs. Joe Average actually may actually like those curly corners. Slashdot readers, why would they buy XP with their new computer?
What your saying is the judge punished him for being "laypeople", and he should have hired "one of them".
Which is all irrelevant.
If your judges are so full of themselves or too lazy or too incompetent to get rid of spammers, I think the rest of the world should start putting taxes on US imports. There can be bad judges anywhere, but if you file a complaint and get that kind of answer, the system is broken. Over de top? 90/100 of my email is spam from the USA. Where can I send the bill?
Hi! I'm the manager of the new grocery store on the corner. Would you be a sport and show your ID everytime you enter our shop? You go out of your way to defeat our statistics, you don't want the air miles card, and I tell you, you're hindering a middle-class man in better supporting his family. I think everybody should just wear an easily readible ID badge when wandering the mall, because you exist for us, salespeople.
It's like watching people program without a care about optimizing for size or speed. They're paid by the hour, not for the quality of the code.
Oh yeah, fear the moment the mod_gzip'ed pages of text take away a fraction of the bandwidth you use to update your pr0n collection, which should not be slowed down!
What are they doing in all those other offices around the globe? Developing?
I thought they were sales offices, put into life to serve the local
advertisement market better. Maybe some people for translations and such, but that's it.
A company so large, they don't give a damn what any individual is doing.
If Comcast got the same treatment as Google, we'd be saying:
Comcast can do whatever the hell it wants.
If Comcast was treated like open source, we'd be saying:
Don't like it? Start your own goddamn ISP. Show us the company!
The problem with stories like "Foo may switch to Linux" is that it is now a standard deal negotiation tactic to in fact buy new Microsoft product licences. Or not. But the fact the guy doesn't switch but rather uses publicity to say he might switch, is a subtle hint.
What about this arrangement: let us all agree here to call hackers crackers from now on, and don't tell the media. This should fix things and create a clear divide again. Now excuse me while I'm off cracking some new code.
Why do copyright holders screw the creators? No one is forcing the creators with a gun to their head to buy their world wide distribution service. Usage of a distribution chain isn't a birth right. If I have a store in Fruits&Vegetables, I've to market the store and make a local living. Or, I can choose to join Evil Fruits&Vegetables Corp and have my apples distributed worldwide. On their terms, yes, but it would still be my choice. Why would I choose that? Because I want to be a millionaire and rule the world. In other words, these creators are just as greedy as the guys they sold out to.
Too simple. This whole threath seems to consist of karma whores;-)
The Belgium court ruling is so evil, so is copyright, and Google is not evil. Gimme gimme, karma here I am.
Unfortunately the real world is not that simple.
1) People who produce digital material have rights too, you forgot about them completely. Offering no solution but being against everything is like pissing against the wind. It gets you nowhere. I guess they should all sell t-shirts, right?
2) If I make a 100% copy of Slashdot, with the exception of the ads, and offer it to the public, I think everybody agrees that goes too far. So where does this leave your argument? Apparantly you think along some scale which adjusts itself according to the weather, the location of Saturn at the night sky, and the presumed coolness or uncoolness of the involved parties.
Look, I don't like strict copyright either. I run an open source project and give everything away with one of the most free licences (although it's still copyrighted).
But you guys, as long as you don't address 1) and 2) you're just full of sh*t. Cheapo's who think law according to the free stuff it gets them.
It might not be easy, yet it is inevitable. The problem will only get worse. So, the only solution is to clean it up. We better start developing a clean-up solution sooner than later.
Puhlease! Let's rephrase that into, "According to Mike Jandreau, Mike Jandreau had 81 death threats last night."
Not even Dubya receives 81 death threats a night. Since you didn't figure out yourself and you seem kind of emotional about it, let me asure you no one intends to kill Mr. Jandreau or has threatened to kill him. He was a mere asshole to a stranger. Maybe he got 81 mails telling him that? Maybe one teenager failing to be funny sending 81? Or maybe he's trying to extort the site into doing what he demands. That would be utterly tasteless and completely over the top. It would also conform to a pattern. Learning moment: whenever you throw in a "I got death threats" into the argument, be modest and start at just a couple, so you don't give it away straight away.
99 out of 100 scientists and everybody outside the USA think otherwise. I'm sure it's conspiracy, so I'm awaiting your scientific evidence that will make you that 1 guy that puts it all right.
"I still wonder why so many put so much faith in our gloabal warming prediction when our ablity to predict anything is rather poor."
Not only prediction, the prediction is the result of historical fact:
Note that such an increase in temperature in such a small period of time has nothing to do with our understanding of Ice Ages, the athmosphere of gas giants, the effects of year-long oil industry propaganda and campaign funding, or the weather forecast on Fox.
Why charge batteries for cars on the spot and wait for it?
Once, I like to drive up to what was once my petrol station, and quickly swap the battery for another one, fully charged. Now if Shell etc. is to produce or charge batteries, that would leave the logistics chain to the "petrol" station intact, hence leading to a higher probability of success.
From "4 Interesting" to "1 troll". This leaves two possibilities:
1) It was a good troll attempt - but not good enough;
2) Instead of writing another report on Open Office, these guys are reading Slashdot on tax payer's money and trolling the "opposition" (a FLOSS developer) down.
Slashdot Mirror
What does it do that make it deserve a mention as opposed to the other zillion bug tracking systems? The site says they don't support their own language choice any longer.
Bullocks. Although these are different things people who are bored spend their time on (according to the article), wherever they meet, like in AJAX libraries, it has to be noticed the most open licences (MIT/BSD) are used. It's an interesting little place on the Net.. if you go to Sourceforge you'll find the vast majority of licences is GPL, here it's almost solely MIT/BSD. Mutually exclusive you said?
The past years, if articles talked about copyright in relation to something they hate, the music industry, the Slashdot crowd screamed to abolish it, downmodding everyone with reason and pointing out that any other view is evil. However, if you switch to talk about it in relation to something they love, it suddenly turns into a fuck-fest karma whore GPL gangbang affair where everybody seems to agree on the value of copyright. You, sirs, are a bunch of hypocrites ;) People should have realised from the start that their hatred of the music industry or of Microsoft does not equal hatred of copyright. Or at least that the consequences of removal are huge. But it's either one way or the other: either the rights on stuff remain with the people that made the stuff, which sounds pretty fair, or anyone that makes something that can be copied, including software developers, work for the good of huminity in general and have to get fed by selling t-shirts.
All economic systems throughout history are based on trading specializations. Removing copyright inherently breaks that. In order for it to work, you must have a world with prosperity for all, and we're not there yet.
Very nice. Compressing my own script worked great. Compressing jquery-lastest.js (to 16K) and calling it from my own script didn't work well though "jQuery.each is not a function"
This was my problem in the open source project, partly Ajax driven, I'm involved in. Exactly for this reason it sported custom coded Javascript from the start. I don't want to load 50K+ javascripts, and I don't want one big script with crap I don't need. If you have some fairly basic stuff which doesn't change much, it's much more efficient to hand-code your own javascript. Also, when this problem arose, and it is still true, these libaries are relatively brand new, and I found it silly to commit a codebase to any of them. However, if you do all your own coding, there are problems such as cross-browser compatibility, and also there is a certain threshold of complexity when you find you're factoring out the same code and problems, and one should consider a switch. But it is a dangerous point which should be a warning sign by itself, because it could imply your stuff is getting too bloated.
It turned out jquery (jquery.com) was the best choice in our case, it addresses exactly my worries by sporting a size of just 20KB, all extras come in modules, and it's very powerful. I'd rather have a 10K version, but there you have it, you can't have it all. How it (or I) work, is to load the core when the page is loaded, and only insert additional scripts (mostly dynamic, i.e. when you click something) when needed. Similary, Yahoo! has a fine, modulized lib which is extremely well documented.
Last but not least it must be noted that all of these frameworks use MIT/BSD style licenses, and I'd like to thank them all for their great tools and generosity.
Attic Attack had a secet ingredient, never done before, never done since: the chicken score.5 10/aticatac.gif
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Network/9
As much I'd like to, but I think it just means large corporations which may or may not have switch plans in a while, like in 1 or 2 years, still need new PCs. Joe Average actually may actually like those curly corners. Slashdot readers, why would they buy XP with their new computer?
Which is all irrelevant.
If your judges are so full of themselves or too lazy or too incompetent to get rid of spammers, I think the rest of the world should start putting taxes on US imports. There can be bad judges anywhere, but if you file a complaint and get that kind of answer, the system is broken. Over de top? 90/100 of my email is spam from the USA. Where can I send the bill?
Hi! I'm the manager of the new grocery store on the corner. Would you be a sport and show your ID everytime you enter our shop? You go out of your way to defeat our statistics, you don't want the air miles card, and I tell you, you're hindering a middle-class man in better supporting his family. I think everybody should just wear an easily readible ID badge when wandering the mall, because you exist for us, salespeople.
Oh yeah, fear the moment the mod_gzip'ed pages of text take away a fraction of the bandwidth you use to update your pr0n collection, which should not be slowed down!
What are they doing in all those other offices around the globe? Developing? I thought they were sales offices, put into life to serve the local advertisement market better. Maybe some people for translations and such, but that's it.
If Comcast got the same treatment as Google, we'd be saying:
Comcast can do whatever the hell it wants.
If Comcast was treated like open source, we'd be saying:
Don't like it? Start your own goddamn ISP. Show us the company!
A chess program isn't called an AI. What you mean to say is that the term was abused for marketing purposes in games, with you as the target audience.
It ain't AI until I can ask it "Do you like this poem" and it gives a meaningful answer.
The game stuff seems more like a lot of parameters put in anticipated by a human author.
Still, with a different approach my AJAX generated site:u tchpipe.org/+dutchpipe&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
http://dutchpipe.org/
is indexed perfectly:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:kvnpKdmDxwUJ:d
The problem with stories like "Foo may switch to Linux" is that it is now a standard deal negotiation tactic to in fact buy new Microsoft product licences. Or not. But the fact the guy doesn't switch but rather uses publicity to say he might switch, is a subtle hint.
What about this arrangement: let us all agree here to call hackers crackers from now on, and don't tell the media. This should fix things and create a clear divide again. Now excuse me while I'm off cracking some new code.
Why do copyright holders screw the creators? No one is forcing the creators with a gun to their head to buy their world wide distribution service. Usage of a distribution chain isn't a birth right. If I have a store in Fruits&Vegetables, I've to market the store and make a local living. Or, I can choose to join Evil Fruits&Vegetables Corp and have my apples distributed worldwide. On their terms, yes, but it would still be my choice. Why would I choose that? Because I want to be a millionaire and rule the world. In other words, these creators are just as greedy as the guys they sold out to.
Too simple. This whole threath seems to consist of karma whores ;-)
The Belgium court ruling is so evil, so is copyright, and Google is not evil. Gimme gimme, karma here I am.
Unfortunately the real world is not that simple.
1) People who produce digital material have rights too, you forgot about them completely. Offering no solution but being against everything is like pissing against the wind. It gets you nowhere. I guess they should all sell t-shirts, right?
2) If I make a 100% copy of Slashdot, with the exception of the ads, and offer it to the public, I think everybody agrees that goes too far. So where does this leave your argument? Apparantly you think along some scale which adjusts itself according to the weather, the location of Saturn at the night sky, and the presumed coolness or uncoolness of the involved parties.
Look, I don't like strict copyright either. I run an open source project and give everything away with one of the most free licences (although it's still copyrighted).
But you guys, as long as you don't address 1) and 2) you're just full of sh*t. Cheapo's who think law according to the free stuff it gets them.
It might not be easy, yet it is inevitable. The problem will only get worse. So, the only solution is to clean it up. We better start developing a clean-up solution sooner than later.
Puhlease! Let's rephrase that into, "According to Mike Jandreau, Mike Jandreau had 81 death threats last night."
Not even Dubya receives 81 death threats a night. Since you didn't figure out yourself and you seem kind of emotional about it, let me asure you no one intends to kill Mr. Jandreau or has threatened to kill him. He was a mere asshole to a stranger. Maybe he got 81 mails telling him that? Maybe one teenager failing to be funny sending 81? Or maybe he's trying to extort the site into doing what he demands. That would be utterly tasteless and completely over the top. It would also conform to a pattern. Learning moment: whenever you throw in a "I got death threats" into the argument, be modest and start at just a couple, so you don't give it away straight away.
"I still wonder why so many put so much faith in our gloabal warming prediction when our ablity to predict anything is rather poor."
Not only prediction, the prediction is the result of historical fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
Note that such an increase in temperature in such a small period of time has nothing to do with our understanding of Ice Ages, the athmosphere of gas giants, the effects of year-long oil industry propaganda and campaign funding, or the weather forecast on Fox.
Why charge batteries for cars on the spot and wait for it? Once, I like to drive up to what was once my petrol station, and quickly swap the battery for another one, fully charged. Now if Shell etc. is to produce or charge batteries, that would leave the logistics chain to the "petrol" station intact, hence leading to a higher probability of success.
Thank you for your anecdotal evidence, now we can throw away the empiric data on 1100 customers.
1) It was a good troll attempt - but not good enough; 2) Instead of writing another report on Open Office, these guys are reading Slashdot on tax payer's money and trolling the "opposition" (a FLOSS developer) down.
You choose.