I really don't feel like breaking out all my guns, and I'd rather just watch you dance around this question for my amusement: apply the same deductive logical process to explain the existence of God.
What poor and haphazard research... an article about slime and there's no mention of the RIAA, the American Bar Association, or the Direct Marketing Association?
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I can just see him pouting now. "It's not an OS, it's not pretty! It's not friendly, it doesn't love me, it doesn't nurture me! It scares me!"
You know, there are plenty of hardcore mac enthusiasts out there too, who really appreciate performance and power. But as long as the community continues with people like this as their mouthpiece, the stereotype of the touchy-feely fuzzy-headed willfully ignorant flake will continue to stick. I have nothing against those who want their computer to "just work", and have it be aesthetically pleasing at that... but you don't see ME, a volvo and honda guy, offering my opinions on muscle cars, do you?
do yourself a favor: stop tossing around "liberal" like some kind of insult, making yourself sound like a mindless dittohead. your argument is reasonable but you sound like Yet Another Angry White Male with your subject line. it's just become too common a pejorative term among said AWM's without two brain cells to rub together to produce a spark of truly independent thought. i'll avoid using "right wing" for the same reason. deal?
> You entrust your mission critical data to ReiserFS?
MP3.com effectively entrusts its entire business to it. And backups of course. Once you can verify a backup, you should be able to restore at least the data (if not fs-specific metadata) to another filesystem in case it goes tits-up somehow. And the fact that it's open source means that while you personally might not have the skill to fix any such bugs (I sure don't), you can at least try to hire someone outside the original manufacturer who can.
I would trust my data to ReiserFS more than any new version of NTFS or FAT.
> Magic number collisions happen only when people are stupid and don't check the magic database before plunking down their own format -- virtually nobody has this problem.
"the magic database". A central repository of every last file format known to computing. How charmingly quaint.
Companies that need 24/7 support for an application, service, system, and so on use this novel concept called a helpdesk. I'm not belittling your question, just pointing out that your company doesn't seem to have a very coherent support structure if the helpdesk wasn't the first thought that crossed their minds. The alternative is really quite expensive -- OT pay for admins is not cheap, losing them is even worse.
Funny, when I pasted that in, it didn't work. Could be because it wasn't indented. So much for block delimiters
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You can also get 1F caps from custom car stereo shops, they're used for subwoofers or something. If you go cheap and get used, make damn sure it's discharged, since that's a lethal amount of juice.
> Whenever nobody is using a chunk, the OS is allowed to move the data and the pointer---after the move, the data, relative to the pointer, will be in the same place.
> This is not a very Unix-y memory model.
How do you mean it's not very "Unix-y"? This is exactly how relocation in ELF works, it uses a register to store that magic offset, then indexes all relative symbols from it. ELF was indeed invented in the UNIX world.
> there are about 25 people in our group capable of learning how to administer an NT box in a reasonable amount of time, there are about 4 or 5 available who have a reasonable background in *nix.
No, you had 25 people who could follow wizards, set file permissions, and maybe know how to invoke the registry editor to change a key mentioned in a book they come across. It's a start, but it doesnt make them qualified admins. NT administration is still tricky hard work that requires a lot of specialized knowledge no matter what the four-color glossy literature tells you. I find NT administration to be even *more* of a challenge at times, when I lack tools out of the box like truss to show me what files a program is opening (great way to notice things like "aha, it's looking at this old config file that should have been deleted"). I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm saying it still requires specialized knowledge and troubleshooting skills. You get those people out of enterprise environments, where you're *far* more likely to find an equal representation of unix admins as well.
Hmm... at the exact moment of transmission, they were over Kazakhstan, or did they just throw that in just to enhance the "International" sound of the whole thing? At 250 miles/sec, they would fly over the whole country in about 5 seconds or so.
> Gimmie, Gimmmie, Gimmie. It's all take and no give, huh?
*shrug*. I don't have a pressing need to spend years writing these tools myself when I'm otherwise perfectly willing to drop a few thousand to have them now. Only free if your time is worthless and all that.
My point was, these products make development less painful than a pure-OSS solution which can offer me nothing but mediocrity, if that.
You make gross generalizations like this and you expect people to take you seriously?
> Developing OSS sucks much less than developing MS junk.
BAH. Give me an OSS CodeInsight, give me a small portable (across apps) object model (small -- CORBA is not small), give me ERWin and Rational Rose. At the OS level, how about a kernel debugger (for device drivers), and async I/O.
But hey vi is enough for everyone isn't it? Leading edge of innovation, that.
> There are professionals who can help you deal with the disappointment of not having total control over the experience of those who enter your site.
Yes, when you're a graphic design professional, they're called unemployment officers. This is why so many have just given up entirely and gone to using Flash instead, which of course the "tty at 2400 bps forever" crowd really hates. Not my market, but it gets really annoying filtering out their screechy emails.
> I can't remember the last time anyone said 'Slackware? That buggy piece of crap? Forget it, I'm going to Redhat.'
I have. You can quote me on it. I don't consider it buggy per se, I just found it even more cumbersome to work with than Redhat. Then I found FreeBSD, which I consider to be the best of both worlds. Haven't looked back.
Guess what, I have different needs than you, and others may have different needs than me. Deal.
> Um, what if the standards set by the dominant distro happen to be retarded?
Then fix them. Christ, do you people refuse to step up to the plate because you can't guarantee you'll hit a home run? Redhat isn't telling anyone to go away, but they aren't lying down to give everyone a chance at being great. So they push their product like it's all that matters to them -- because it is.
> How long have games like Go and Chess been popular?
How often do such games even come around?
Still, I think you're comparing apples and oranges. I'm having terrific fun playing Baldurs Gate 2 (it's leagues better than the original in terms of richness and complexity) but when I've played all the way through it, and maybe played it as an evil character just for kicks (and probably using a cheat, assuming shadowkeeper works correctly by then) it'll go on the shelf, or I'll give it to someone. So it's more like a concert or a book or a play (a little bit of all of them really) than a game such as chess. The genre constitutes a lasting form of entertainment, not the individual game.
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> God exists. He created everything.
I really don't feel like breaking out all my guns, and I'd rather just watch you dance around this question for my amusement: apply the same deductive logical process to explain the existence of God.
hm. due to the way i hold my trackball, i usually click with my middle finger. guess that explains why i come off so offensive?
What poor and haphazard research ... an article about slime and there's no mention of the RIAA, the American Bar Association, or the Direct Marketing Association?
I can just see him pouting now. "It's not an OS, it's not pretty! It's not friendly, it doesn't love me, it doesn't nurture me! It scares me!"
... but you don't see ME, a volvo and honda guy, offering my opinions on muscle cars, do you?
You know, there are plenty of hardcore mac enthusiasts out there too, who really appreciate performance and power. But as long as the community continues with people like this as their mouthpiece, the stereotype of the touchy-feely fuzzy-headed willfully ignorant flake will continue to stick. I have nothing against those who want their computer to "just work", and have it be aesthetically pleasing at that
> ... the MS media amchien ash eben so successful
It took me a few readings to realize that this wasn't some kind of laps into some kind of bastardized german...
do yourself a favor: stop tossing around "liberal" like some kind of insult, making yourself sound like a mindless dittohead. your argument is reasonable but you sound like Yet Another Angry White Male with your subject line. it's just become too common a pejorative term among said AWM's without two brain cells to rub together to produce a spark of truly independent thought. i'll avoid using "right wing" for the same reason. deal?
> I sure hope tux2 is capable of at least 2^31 or 2^32 * blocksize.
:)
I sure hope you meant filesize. Otherwise you could have a 2 gig drive with a real big superblock and nothing else on it
> You entrust your mission critical data to ReiserFS?
MP3.com effectively entrusts its entire business to it. And backups of course. Once you can verify a backup, you should be able to restore at least the data (if not fs-specific metadata) to another filesystem in case it goes tits-up somehow. And the fact that it's open source means that while you personally might not have the skill to fix any such bugs (I sure don't), you can at least try to hire someone outside the original manufacturer who can.
I would trust my data to ReiserFS more than any new version of NTFS or FAT.
> Magic number collisions happen only when people are stupid and don't check the magic database before plunking down their own format -- virtually nobody has this problem.
"the magic database". A central repository of every last file format known to computing. How charmingly quaint.
Companies that need 24/7 support for an application, service, system, and so on use this novel concept called a helpdesk. I'm not belittling your question, just pointing out that your company doesn't seem to have a very coherent support structure if the helpdesk wasn't the first thought that crossed their minds. The alternative is really quite expensive -- OT pay for admins is not cheap, losing them is even worse.
> This should be completely legal, but $10 says Microsoft would go after it. And that's just dumb
No, Apple would sue. Microsoft would just change all the formats again.
Funny, when I pasted that in, it didn't work. Could be because it wasn't indented. So much for block delimiters
You can also get 1F caps from custom car stereo shops, they're used for subwoofers or something. If you go cheap and get used, make damn sure it's discharged, since that's a lethal amount of juice.
> Whenever nobody is using a chunk, the OS is allowed to move the data and the pointer---after the move, the data, relative to the pointer, will be in the same place.
> This is not a very Unix-y memory model.
How do you mean it's not very "Unix-y"? This is exactly how relocation in ELF works, it uses a register to store that magic offset, then indexes all relative symbols from it. ELF was indeed invented in the UNIX world.
> there are about 25 people in our group capable of learning how to administer an NT box in a reasonable amount of time, there are about 4 or 5 available who have a reasonable background in *nix.
No, you had 25 people who could follow wizards, set file permissions, and maybe know how to invoke the registry editor to change a key mentioned in a book they come across. It's a start, but it doesnt make them qualified admins. NT administration is still tricky hard work that requires a lot of specialized knowledge no matter what the four-color glossy literature tells you. I find NT administration to be even *more* of a challenge at times, when I lack tools out of the box like truss to show me what files a program is opening (great way to notice things like "aha, it's looking at this old config file that should have been deleted"). I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm saying it still requires specialized knowledge and troubleshooting skills. You get those people out of enterprise environments, where you're *far* more likely to find an equal representation of unix admins as well.
Whoosh ... there was the sound of my grade school geometry lessons flying out of my head. :-/
Hmm ... at the exact moment of transmission, they were over Kazakhstan, or did they just throw that in just to enhance the "International" sound of the whole thing? At 250 miles/sec, they would fly over the whole country in about 5 seconds or so.
> Gimmie, Gimmmie, Gimmie. It's all take and no give, huh?
*shrug*. I don't have a pressing need to spend years writing these tools myself when I'm otherwise perfectly willing to drop a few thousand to have them now. Only free if your time is worthless and all that.
My point was, these products make development less painful than a pure-OSS solution which can offer me nothing but mediocrity, if that.
> Win2K=32bitDOS
You make gross generalizations like this and you expect people to take you seriously?
> Developing OSS sucks much less than developing MS junk.
BAH. Give me an OSS CodeInsight, give me a small portable (across apps) object model (small -- CORBA is not small), give me ERWin and Rational Rose. At the OS level, how about a kernel debugger (for device drivers), and async I/O.
But hey vi is enough for everyone isn't it? Leading edge of innovation, that.
> There are professionals who can help you deal with the disappointment of not having total control over the experience of those who enter your site.
Yes, when you're a graphic design professional, they're called unemployment officers. This is why so many have just given up entirely and gone to using Flash instead, which of course the "tty at 2400 bps forever" crowd really hates. Not my market, but it gets really annoying filtering out their screechy emails.
> I can't remember the last time anyone said 'Slackware? That buggy piece of crap? Forget it, I'm going to Redhat.'
I have. You can quote me on it. I don't consider it buggy per se, I just found it even more cumbersome to work with than Redhat. Then I found FreeBSD, which I consider to be the best of both worlds. Haven't looked back.
Guess what, I have different needs than you, and others may have different needs than me. Deal.
> Um, what if the standards set by the dominant distro happen to be retarded?
Then fix them. Christ, do you people refuse to step up to the plate because you can't guarantee you'll hit a home run? Redhat isn't telling anyone to go away, but they aren't lying down to give everyone a chance at being great. So they push their product like it's all that matters to them -- because it is.
What do you suggest Redhat do? Advertise Debian?
> Rational Rose for yet another webbrowser with avatars built in.
:)
Slashdotting from your programming job? I think you meant "moove", not RR
> How long is the average computer game popular?
We may never see the death of tetris.
> How long have games like Go and Chess been popular?
How often do such games even come around?
Still, I think you're comparing apples and oranges. I'm having terrific fun playing Baldurs Gate 2 (it's leagues better than the original in terms of richness and complexity) but when I've played all the way through it, and maybe played it as an evil character just for kicks (and probably using a cheat, assuming shadowkeeper works correctly by then) it'll go on the shelf, or I'll give it to someone. So it's more like a concert or a book or a play (a little bit of all of them really) than a game such as chess. The genre constitutes a lasting form of entertainment, not the individual game.
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What rot. "Mac OS X will conquer all, you will kneel, it was designed by EXPERTS with LETTERS after their name who KNOW this stuff"...
Go buy a Mac, troll boy. Be sure to get the matching curtains too.