Yeah something about HP faking an orgasm during phone sex with Sarah Palin, in order to distract her so David Kernell could sneak in through the back door so he could break in to her PC to steal her SPAM folder from her Hotmail account.
No its new therefore its not matured yet for industry acceptance.
Flash has been always the tool for this type of job, it has been that way for quite a long time, you have to simply be patient before we start seeing it fill in the gaps.
HTML5 is the future, but so are flying cars and jet-packs. HTML5 is a more realistic future though and has better POC's
The Western Union thing is impressive, you'd think a guy of this stature would have a clue about enterprise IT and know that HP is quite a powerful player in the higher end of the market.
It looks like the one of the IT companies he was apart of has seemed to of foldera-ed:)
I've commented on this in a prior thread just above this one.
HTML5 is still quite new and the Quake port is a brilliant POC. Maybe one day we'll see HTML5 as an important selling point for SmartPhones but alas today, i refer you to this news article.
But this is what i don't get, a light flash should be okay for now and I think would make everyone think Jobs isn't so full of it. Lets say the flash banners on Slashdot, those shouldn't kill an iPhone and with the way flash now allows you to explore its internals you'd think they could set it up to simply pull meta-data too see if the flash object is worthy or not if so run it with the bare minimum API usage.
But i do like your concept about them having more features than competing SmartPhones, like the ABS breaks and ESP features in cars, they only do it if they must to keep current against their competitors.
The developments for HTML5 are still relatively new and I'm going to take a reserved stance on this before claiming its the long awaited solution that we've been looking for.
Unless you have an article or piece of information that I've missed to the contrary? If not I'll stick to my original assumption.
The whole Quake 2 thing i believe was a great proof of concept, but really that's were its all at, proof of concept at this stage not production worthy nor easy and accessible. I'm not sure on one thing though and this is possibly something you'd know but how robust the Application Cache with the iPhone? from what i can gather its still pretty basic. If users are stuck pulling massive amounts of data to get their apps to work (depending upon complexity of course) there is another delimiting factor.
Companies have a right to sell goods and services as they wish, Adwords, Windows, etc is all fine by me. Even Apple has the right to sell "their own services" but the truth is flash does help circumvent the app store and make it easier developers to churn out free apps that can't be controlled.
HTML5 even though is as great concept and I can defiantly see becoming the new buzz word that all next generation smartphones will slap at the top of their specifications lists as an important selling point. I still think its too new.
It could very well be the "app store killer" and solve the issues that android is facing with Vodafone. I'm sure you'd agree the uneven standards that all smartphones are plagued with is a huge growth stunt in that particular part of the industry because nothing is really that portable.
I guess voting libs might put another minister in charge rather than Conroy, someone who might impose a smart solution rather than whats already put forward.
I believe the filter is being sold in the wrong way, if they want to maintain border control on what gets into the country, just like what we do with immigration, mail transit, shipping etc. Then that's fine go right ahead, it wont change my internet life one bit.
At present stage, it leaves too much possibility of what could be done with the filter, restricting websites that are really not doing any harm and what it boils down too is if you try to get a non IT savvy person to sell an IT based concept, it gets misunderstood and then becomes poorly executed.
I've always said throwing the away internet and rebuilding it would be good idea:P
On the flip side to your argument if some guy from South America sends a box of Cocaine in the mail it gets picked up and investigated. Of course with child porn its different, there isn't a swabbing gadget or sniffer dog that can find it, you'd have to look at every letter that comes in.
So it begs the question, aside from the ease of distribution the internet plays with child pornography it doesn't make that much difference either way. There will always be that dark net / black market which will transmit this stuff behind closed doors such as private forums and peer-to-peer, and traditionally via snail mail aswell.
The filter is redundant as Google already filters out these keywords, photos, etc.
The question begs for a real motive as to what the Govts main intention was. I believe, and I go back to my comment earlier in another post, that this filter was a means for the pollie's to gain a precedent to mitigate the internet for themselves, just like AQUIS is for international mail and travel.
I also believe it was sold incorrectly and under the wrong precedence, if they spelled out how peoples privacy would be breached and offered acceptable precursors as to why that person's privacy was breached, it would of been a less resistant argument for them and perhaps they could of won it.
All they said is we're going to blow a massive wad of cash and allow Mr Conroy to play god with the internet.
What about the Google level filtering? I mean typing "kiddy porn" in the search engine wont get a link to uncle-toms-basement.com. If anything its just got companies selling filtering software.
The filter wouldn't of changed the kiddy porn distribution one bit because I'd imagine that stuff would be done mostly peer-to-peer.
Regardless of Govt, I think Google's done a fine job stopping what it can and that adding a filter on ISP's is quite redundant.
I always thought this filter campaign was simply a legal thawte at privacy allowing the Govt later to scrutinize peoples access better.
That's true, but it shouldn't be about the content, it should be about toning the internet down so we have far less crime on the internet. It was never looked that way and the "pr0n" card was played.
Mess with peoples porn expect failure (which it has) but talk about the real issues like china and some of the nasty stuff that's happening there at the moment.
I urge you to watch this, story on the Australian News. It is 40mins long, but trust me when you get into the thick of the story you'll love it.
I recon the filter was being pushed because this shit started showing its ugly face here in Australia, just the pollie who was trying to pull it off took the wrong path and pissed everyone off in the process.
Yeah, only a misguided geek or a member of NAMBLA would of modded this as Troll. Don't get me wrong though Mr Troll-Flagger, I hate Conroy with a passion but I do get what brendan_hill is saying, and that is filtering is fundamentally a good idea.
Lets look at it this way, how great would it be to have a safe internet? At the moment its like walking down the streets of a bad neighborhood, if your not familiar with the area, you'll most likely get robbed, literally.
And having those looming DDoS attacks from organized crime groups is a kin to the old fashioned bank robberies we had in the wild west. Extorting businesses to hand over cash or they'll shoot someone, in these days its now threaten to kill their IT infrastructure.
Ideally a filter would give us a foundation to eventually build facilities and technology to trump these things but Conroy's attitude was far misguided to create a valuable tool to the internet and was in-turn looked upon as a restriction of freedom.
We still have IP6 to look forward too and the technological benefits it _could_ bring to internet security, but again its something too far off and I'm sure someone is bound to stuff that up to (I know I'm a cynic).
First, you claim the Mac is nothing but a toy, and unsuitable for IT "grunt work". So I point out that it is a POSIX-compliant UNIX operating system, running on commodity Intel hardware, which means that it is perfectly capable & suitable for just about any IT "grunt work" you'd care to name that is not tied to the.NET platform.
So your saying that Mac's "measured" success has only been because they've begun to implement PC like hardware and software? I certainly agree with you on that one.
Then you claim that doesn't matter, and Apple users are all smug prius drivers who are metrosexual and enjoy playing with childrens' toys.
Ahh I see you've met them too. They still get bamboozled when exposed to a right mouse button.
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VHS vs Beta, MS vs Mac, Guitar Hero vs Rock Band, Google vs Bing.
The matter is, VHS wasn't a better format then Beta but Beta never made it too the video stores; Microsoft beat Jobs to the race and had his product out first; half the world has no idea what "Rock Band" is; and people "Google" things they don't "Search" for them any more.
Macs will always be 2nd to PC regardless how good they get, now they just sell phones.
I like South Park, heck I am an owner of a Jail broken iPhone with South Park winterboard theme. IMHO they are good devices but all i'm saying is they are not the most sophisticated devices out there, they are limited in their use in some areas. I dont fan boy over Jobs or Gates, both are weasels in my view. More over I have a hate for Google as well.
I prefer not to take sides on either of them, but the fact remains, Apples are for metros or 2 years olds and PC's are for geeks and business people.
Has much changed in the last 10 - 15 years? no except Apple now sells phones.
There is no revolution here, Jobs is full of his own sense of self importance, Google trys to do the right thing but one day that wonderful illusion is going to turn on everyone and Microsoft is still one dimensional and dirty when it comes to it operations.
The only thing we have too look forward in the computing world is that the EU will take Apple and Google to the cleaners. As it did with MS when they got too big. Once that happens to the "smaller" players the consensus will be a) unlocked Apple phones b) Google adwords practices will be stifled.
Sheesh, Mr iGadget, whats to say one day that a particular car manufacturer doesn't buy out a big brand petrol station change all the nozzles on their fuel bowers and only supply petrol to only to their particular brand of car.
Face it, google and apple simply are not big or bad enough to cause enough market insurgence to wake industry watch dogs, Microsoft IS, HAS and WAS. Woof!
Your business advice shows a startling lack of any familiarity with the realities of the market.
*SNIFF SNIFF* No your shit does stink here as well, Ever seen the episode of South Park where everyone sniffs their own ass and fills the air full of Smug.
It's clear that you have no interest in facts, and would rather rant and lie. That's not how a "big person" behaves, you should really try to grow up.
Where did I lie? Macs are not viable for business computing or servers/networking? If it was, then it would be, simple, its not which is sad for Mac lovers all around the world but Macs are just simply "toys" in the IT industry not machines that can handle real grunt work. As a Mac user your just going to have to bare that your favorite product is suited the domestic market and nothing else.
As for growing up, try not using words "doofus" or accusing me of lying when I'm simply sharing an opinion. I not once attacked you like you've attacked me, and its grounds for calling you names but I'll refrain from, even though I think I've earned the right too at this point.
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Yeah something about HP faking an orgasm during phone sex with Sarah Palin, in order to distract her so David Kernell could sneak in through the back door so he could break in to her PC to steal her SPAM folder from her Hotmail account.
No but they can type :)
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No its new therefore its not matured yet for industry acceptance.
Flash has been always the tool for this type of job, it has been that way for quite a long time, you have to simply be patient before we start seeing it fill in the gaps.
HTML5 is the future, but so are flying cars and jet-packs. HTML5 is a more realistic future though and has better POC's
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Arrington
The Western Union thing is impressive, you'd think a guy of this stature would have a clue about enterprise IT and know that HP is quite a powerful player in the higher end of the market.
It looks like the one of the IT companies he was apart of has seemed to of foldera-ed :)
I've commented on this in a prior thread just above this one.
HTML5 is still quite new and the Quake port is a brilliant POC. Maybe one day we'll see HTML5 as an important selling point for SmartPhones but alas today, i refer you to this news article.
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-analyst-html5-far-from-killing.html
I'd imagine the money would be made back on all the pop-up ads that get smuggled into the free apps.
Here something i found also ...
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-analyst-html5-far-from-killing.html
Let the blasting begin Mr AC :)
Also ... Not sure if you've seen this ...
http://mashable.com/2010/03/03/flash-nexus-one-demo/
But this is what i don't get, a light flash should be okay for now and I think would make everyone think Jobs isn't so full of it. Lets say the flash banners on Slashdot, those shouldn't kill an iPhone and with the way flash now allows you to explore its internals you'd think they could set it up to simply pull meta-data too see if the flash object is worthy or not if so run it with the bare minimum API usage.
But i do like your concept about them having more features than competing SmartPhones, like the ABS breaks and ESP features in cars, they only do it if they must to keep current against their competitors.
Wow, ummm your pretty passionate about this.
The developments for HTML5 are still relatively new and I'm going to take a reserved stance on this before claiming its the long awaited solution that we've been looking for.
Unless you have an article or piece of information that I've missed to the contrary? If not I'll stick to my original assumption.
The whole Quake 2 thing i believe was a great proof of concept, but really that's were its all at, proof of concept at this stage not production worthy nor easy and accessible. I'm not sure on one thing though and this is possibly something you'd know but how robust the Application Cache with the iPhone? from what i can gather its still pretty basic. If users are stuck pulling massive amounts of data to get their apps to work (depending upon complexity of course) there is another delimiting factor.
Companies have a right to sell goods and services as they wish, Adwords, Windows, etc is all fine by me. Even Apple has the right to sell "their own services" but the truth is flash does help circumvent the app store and make it easier developers to churn out free apps that can't be controlled.
HTML5 even though is as great concept and I can defiantly see becoming the new buzz word that all next generation smartphones will slap at the top of their specifications lists as an important selling point. I still think its too new.
It could very well be the "app store killer" and solve the issues that android is facing with Vodafone. I'm sure you'd agree the uneven standards that all smartphones are plagued with is a huge growth stunt in that particular part of the industry because nothing is really that portable.
He doesnt care that you should care, or not.
Flash apps circumvent the app store, you can make a website app through flash for free (such as a game) and Jobs doesn't get to enforce his Apple Tax.
I guess voting libs might put another minister in charge rather than Conroy, someone who might impose a smart solution rather than whats already put forward.
I believe the filter is being sold in the wrong way, if they want to maintain border control on what gets into the country, just like what we do with immigration, mail transit, shipping etc. Then that's fine go right ahead, it wont change my internet life one bit.
At present stage, it leaves too much possibility of what could be done with the filter, restricting websites that are really not doing any harm and what it boils down too is if you try to get a non IT savvy person to sell an IT based concept, it gets misunderstood and then becomes poorly executed.
Yeah but the IT portion of the voting population is quite small. This wont have any drastic impact on Labors chances of winning next election.
Great way to get out of paying Apple the remainder though.
Sell it for $X.99 means they don't get it themselves ...
Apple charges for the use of the App site, So I guess this is just the same this yeah?
I've always said throwing the away internet and rebuilding it would be good idea :P
On the flip side to your argument if some guy from South America sends a box of Cocaine in the mail it gets picked up and investigated. Of course with child porn its different, there isn't a swabbing gadget or sniffer dog that can find it, you'd have to look at every letter that comes in.
So it begs the question, aside from the ease of distribution the internet plays with child pornography it doesn't make that much difference either way. There will always be that dark net / black market which will transmit this stuff behind closed doors such as private forums and peer-to-peer, and traditionally via snail mail aswell.
The filter is redundant as Google already filters out these keywords, photos, etc.
The question begs for a real motive as to what the Govts main intention was. I believe, and I go back to my comment earlier in another post, that this filter was a means for the pollie's to gain a precedent to mitigate the internet for themselves, just like AQUIS is for international mail and travel.
I also believe it was sold incorrectly and under the wrong precedence, if they spelled out how peoples privacy would be breached and offered acceptable precursors as to why that person's privacy was breached, it would of been a less resistant argument for them and perhaps they could of won it.
All they said is we're going to blow a massive wad of cash and allow Mr Conroy to play god with the internet.
What about the Google level filtering? I mean typing "kiddy porn" in the search engine wont get a link to uncle-toms-basement.com. If anything its just got companies selling filtering software.
The filter wouldn't of changed the kiddy porn distribution one bit because I'd imagine that stuff would be done mostly peer-to-peer.
Regardless of Govt, I think Google's done a fine job stopping what it can and that adding a filter on ISP's is quite redundant.
I always thought this filter campaign was simply a legal thawte at privacy allowing the Govt later to scrutinize peoples access better.
That's true, but it shouldn't be about the content, it should be about toning the internet down so we have far less crime on the internet. It was never looked that way and the "pr0n" card was played.
Mess with peoples porn expect failure (which it has) but talk about the real issues like china and some of the nasty stuff that's happening there at the moment.
I urge you to watch this, story on the Australian News. It is 40mins long, but trust me when you get into the thick of the story you'll love it.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20100419/cyber/
I recon the filter was being pushed because this shit started showing its ugly face here in Australia, just the pollie who was trying to pull it off took the wrong path and pissed everyone off in the process.
Yeah, only a misguided geek or a member of NAMBLA would of modded this as Troll. Don't get me wrong though Mr Troll-Flagger, I hate Conroy with a passion but I do get what brendan_hill is saying, and that is filtering is fundamentally a good idea.
Lets look at it this way, how great would it be to have a safe internet? At the moment its like walking down the streets of a bad neighborhood, if your not familiar with the area, you'll most likely get robbed, literally.
And having those looming DDoS attacks from organized crime groups is a kin to the old fashioned bank robberies we had in the wild west. Extorting businesses to hand over cash or they'll shoot someone, in these days its now threaten to kill their IT infrastructure.
Ideally a filter would give us a foundation to eventually build facilities and technology to trump these things but Conroy's attitude was far misguided to create a valuable tool to the internet and was in-turn looked upon as a restriction of freedom.
We still have IP6 to look forward too and the technological benefits it _could_ bring to internet security, but again its something too far off and I'm sure someone is bound to stuff that up to (I know I'm a cynic).
First, you claim the Mac is nothing but a toy, and unsuitable for IT "grunt work". So I point out that it is a POSIX-compliant UNIX operating system, running on commodity Intel hardware, which means that it is perfectly capable & suitable for just about any IT "grunt work" you'd care to name that is not tied to the .NET platform.
So your saying that Mac's "measured" success has only been because they've begun to implement PC like hardware and software? I certainly agree with you on that one.
Then you claim that doesn't matter, and Apple users are all smug prius drivers who are metrosexual and enjoy playing with childrens' toys.
Ahh I see you've met them too. They still get bamboozled when exposed to a right mouse button.
I don't know where you get your data, but if it's full of fanciful ideas and wishful thinking like this, then sir, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Again, your missing the point. It's great that Mac is POSIX compliant, and its based on UNIX and all these wonderful things.
I'm even sure if you were to match Windows 7 against OSX and you'll tick more positive boxes for OSX but the fact remains, better doesnt always sell.
In the words from the movie of "Pirates of silicon valley" goes something like this
Jobs: Mine's Better, Bill! Mine's Better!
Gates: Steve, It doesn't matter!
VHS vs Beta, MS vs Mac, Guitar Hero vs Rock Band, Google vs Bing.
The matter is, VHS wasn't a better format then Beta but Beta never made it too the video stores; Microsoft beat Jobs to the race and had his product out first; half the world has no idea what "Rock Band" is; and people "Google" things they don't "Search" for them any more.
Macs will always be 2nd to PC regardless how good they get, now they just sell phones.
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I like South Park, heck I am an owner of a Jail broken iPhone with South Park winterboard theme. IMHO they are good devices but all i'm saying is they are not the most sophisticated devices out there, they are limited in their use in some areas. I dont fan boy over Jobs or Gates, both are weasels in my view. More over I have a hate for Google as well.
I prefer not to take sides on either of them, but the fact remains, Apples are for metros or 2 years olds and PC's are for geeks and business people.
Has much changed in the last 10 - 15 years? no except Apple now sells phones.
There is no revolution here, Jobs is full of his own sense of self importance, Google trys to do the right thing but one day that wonderful illusion is going to turn on everyone and Microsoft is still one dimensional and dirty when it comes to it operations.
The only thing we have too look forward in the computing world is that the EU will take Apple and Google to the cleaners. As it did with MS when they got too big. Once that happens to the "smaller" players the consensus will be a) unlocked Apple phones b) Google adwords practices will be stifled.
Sheesh, Mr iGadget, whats to say one day that a particular car manufacturer doesn't buy out a big brand petrol station change all the nozzles on their fuel bowers and only supply petrol to only to their particular brand of car.
Face it, google and apple simply are not big or bad enough to cause enough market insurgence to wake industry watch dogs, Microsoft IS, HAS and WAS. Woof!
Your business advice shows a startling lack of any familiarity with the realities of the market.
*SNIFF SNIFF* No your shit does stink here as well, Ever seen the episode of South Park where everyone sniffs their own ass and fills the air full of Smug.
Prius drivers and Mac users
It's clear that you have no interest in facts, and would rather rant and lie. That's not how a "big person" behaves, you should really try to grow up.
Where did I lie? Macs are not viable for business computing or servers/networking? If it was, then it would be, simple, its not which is sad for Mac lovers all around the world but Macs are just simply "toys" in the IT industry not machines that can handle real grunt work. As a Mac user your just going to have to bare that your favorite product is suited the domestic market and nothing else.
As for growing up, try not using words "doofus" or accusing me of lying when I'm simply sharing an opinion. I not once attacked you like you've attacked me, and its grounds for calling you names but I'll refrain from, even though I think I've earned the right too at this point.