Slashdot Mirror


User: Miklby

Miklby's activity in the archive.

Stories
0
Comments
2
First seen
Last seen
Profile
(view on slashdot.org)

Comments · 2

  1. A proposed solution. on A New Year's Idea: Pay For Some Freedom · · Score: 1

    Here is a letter I sent to the IETF last night.
    It provides a revenue stream for copyright holders
    online across filesharing networks, but includes a
    revenue for software providers -- including Open Source Software.

    Greetings,

    I would like float a suggestion for creating a sustainable
    model for file sharing that permits copyrighted information (music,
    literature, artworks, etc) to be shared among users whilst supporting
    payments to the copyright holders.

    As you probably are aware, organizations such the RIAA and
    the MPAA are currently on the warpath to shut down file sharing
    networks (such a napster, gnutella, etc), and replace them with a
    new system that will probably only favor its own members. I find
    this possibility quite alarming as it wont address the needs of the
    community, or strike a fair balance with independent performers.

    My own main motivation for engaging this issue is sheer
    terror. I am terrified that draconian, freedom destroying laws such
    as the SSSCA will be imposed upon Americans, and through the WTO, on
    the rest of the world*. I am also terrified of the companies involved,
    who have openly threatened the community with its insistence on
    imposing copyright protection technologies that remove a users
    basic rights.

    Lastly, I would never forgive myself if I sat on my
    hands and did not act on this idea.

    In a nutshell, what I would suggest is the creation of a
    payment service that is independent of any software company, that
    tracks sales of copyrighted works across file sharing networks.
    This payment service would have to be a Public Utility, and would
    need to be accountable to the global community. It would also need
    to be completely open and transparent. No shady back room deals.
    The payment service must also permit the free sharing of public
    data. In this instance, the file sharing software would default
    back to its normal (read: current) mode of operation.

    Now here's the catch. You could not simply 'impose' such a
    solution on users and file sharing software providers. They would
    simply reject it. So rather than imposing, why not offer an incentive
    to support the payment service by reserving a portion of the sale
    to the parties involved. In my view, the main parties involved are:

    1) The copyright holder.
    2) The software provider.
    3) The user(s) who provide storage space for the content.
    4) The payment service (it could not be done for free).

    To draw the analogy to a classical retail model, the user(s)
    provide the 'shelf space' where the goods are advertised. The software
    acts as the conduit to conduct the transfer, and lastly, of course, the
    copyright holder provides the content.

    Now consider a case for a (simplified) classical transaction.

    In the classical model, the retailer buys the quantity of goods from
    the copyright holder. The goods are transported to the premises by the
    courier service and the cost of transport is added to the price. Finally,
    the retailer adds her own margin to the product, and places in on her
    store shelves. Joe Public comes in and buys the goods at the advertised
    price.

    Now consider a case for a current Napster transaction:

    First the user downloads the goods from another user. The user then
    places the content in the outgoing directory. Another user comes
    along and downloads the content from that directory.

    Now what is missing in the napster transaction as compared to the
    classical model is the exchange of money. There is a reason for this.
    There is no incentive or framework to support payment and the supplier
    (and the software provider) get nothing from the transaction. Thus
    currently, the copyright holder gets nothing as well.

    Not only is this illegal, it is an unworkable situation.
    If permitted to follow through to its ultimate destination, artists
    will avoid the internet, or worse, go broke and receive no reward
    for their efforts. A cultural wasteland would evolve where people
    no longer want to be artists or musicians, because there will be no
    future in it. A grim future indeed.

    Now compare this with a future situation where the
    infrastructure has been supplied and incentive has been reserved
    for the participants. The incentive is payment for participation.

    First the user downloads the content using payment aware software.
    The software contacts the payment service and announces the
    transaction. The cost of the transaction is deducted from their
    account (or barred in the case of insufficient funds). The transaction
    is raised at the payment service, and relevant details are sent back
    to the user. The user then downloads the content from the serving
    machine(s) which is also using payment aware software. The user receives
    the content and the transfer details are sent back to the payment
    service and the transaction is completed. At the payment service,
    the servers correlate who was involved in the transaction, divides
    up the payment between:

    1) The Artist (85%)
    2) The software provider (5% - 2.5% each if different client/server software is used)
    3) The user(s)** who supplied the content (5%).
    4) The payment service (5%).

    The percentage figures are not cost calculated as yet
    since I haven't designed the boiler plate yet and estimated costs.
    However, I think it would be important to make the cuts equal so
    that arguments of who gets a bigger slice are eliminated. This way,
    there is no argument about who gets the biggest slice, the Artists
    must for a very important reason. Distributing content over the
    internet as opposed to classical methods is far more cost effective.
    Distributed file sharing services are extremely efficient at
    disseminating data. Thus the costs of delivering goods is very cheap,
    thus more transactions can be handled in a small amount of time.

    However, the biggest question is does this survive the
    incentive litmus test?

    Q1. Would the file sharing software writers be inclined to add
    support for this?

    A1. I would like to think so. Considering they haven't received
    a brass razzoo on their software, suddenly having a stable income
    stream would be a boon to them. This also includes Open Source
    projects who have been devoid of a reasonable business model since
    the beginning. It would create a very different outlook on the entire
    software field. However, I would like to add that Open Source projects
    would probably still get ripped off with unscrupulous web masters and
    admins rewriting their own accounts into the software at the expense
    of the project. However, most Open Source supporters would probably
    do the right thing and let them have their dough.

    Q2. Would the users want to use this?

    A2. Again I would like to think so. If you dangle the offer of
    getting paid to run a piece of software on your computer to share
    files around, I would be inclined to say yes. This would be the murky
    part though, some would rather abuse than use. However, considering
    the lively hood of the software supplier would be counting on their
    co-operation, Joe Public might not get a choice in this regard.
    Open source software users might be a different story, but I will
    cover this another time.

    However, I do believe most normal people are honest, and
    really would like to support their favorite artist. Mostly since
    they know that if they don't, their artists will stop performing.
    As for myself, I would be preferentially using this system to
    supply my own music needs in future. I don't mind paying for music
    when I know that the majority of the money goes straight to the
    artist.

    Q3. Would the artists support this?

    A3. I would say so. Since this would be an open system, any
    artists who has produced original work would be welcome, with no
    need for them to hand over the copyright on their work. Likewise
    authors, painters, graphic designers, etc. The payment service
    could also act as a 'conduit' between users who wish to publish
    an artists work, and the artists themselves. Once placed in contact
    with each other, the payment service can step back and allow
    each party to negotiate directly.

    Q4. Would the publishing houses support this?

    A4. It really doesn't matter what the publishers think. Its
    the artists themselves who create the content, not the publishers.
    I dare say that initially, they would reject this idea out of hand,
    which is why I wouldn't be bothered telling them about it. However,
    when they finally figure out this would probably be the only way to
    be paid reliably for their content, they would probably come around
    in the long run.

    Anyways, that's the skinny. All comments and criticisms welcome.
    I am sending this info to your group since I consider you people to be
    the best qualified to judge and comment on this concept. Considering
    that you all value your freedom, as I value my freedom.

    I have lots more stuff on this, but that's enough for an
    introduction...

    BTW, don't laugh, but I have tentitively called this the
    'MilleniPay' system, for want of a better name.

    Of course, this document is copyright Michael H. Voase (c) 2001.
    Released to you under the terms of the GNU public license version 2 or
    optionally any later version.

    All rights are reserved to prevent more unscrupulous individuals
    thieving it and turning it into a money printing machine.

    Cheers Mik.

    * In my own country, for example, the US has imposed sanctions on
    the importation of lambs from Australia. For the Australian government
    to ever get these sanctions lifted, we would need to join a 'free'
    trading block. The conditions of which, as you guessed, are adopting
    US style laws such as the DMCA and probably the UCITA as well.

    ** Some file sharing software uses 'multipoint' download to speed
    the process up. It would need to be supported, and adds an extra
    layer of complexity, but considering the speed of computers these
    days, I still think its possible. My own suggestion for splitting
    the payment is based on percentage of file supplied. If one user
    supplies 25% of the content, they receive 25% of the 5% cut with
    the rest going to the other users involved.

  2. Re:STUPID idea on Accounting Systems on Linux? · · Score: 1

    Quite easially when you show them the spread sheet
    of the ammount of downtime suffered as a result of
    using windows plus all the lost productivity, high
    support costs, and of course, the ever present
    possibility of theft of corporate documents and
    secrets due to the completely insecure nature of
    windows.

    The idea of using Linux is neither stupid
    or out of the question. It is now becomming a
    matter of WHEN. IMHO the next year will herald in
    further virii and internet worms, pushing up the
    cost running windows until the faithful day when
    the accounts manager asks 'exactly how much does
    it cost to run windows?'. The fictious TCO that
    M$ keeps quoting is complete balloney and has
    _never_ accurately reflected the loss of revenue
    to downtime, loss of productivity and the higher
    levels of maintanence staff required to nurse WinNT/2000/XP/ME/9x through its day to day
    existance.

    However, dont bother listening to me, go
    back to your little windoze box and pretend that
    the next virus hit you get is not costing you
    loss of productivity. Just keep convincing that it
    really is alright and M$ will fix everything --
    eventually....Types like you will be good company
    at the dole queue when YOUR comapany hits the
    wall -- and your competitors will thank you for
    sticking your head in the sand and handing them
    a competitive advantage.

    Cheers Miklby.