fiber is cheaper than copper, a million feet of 3700 pair copper cable costs about 200 times more that the same length of 432 ribbon fiber and will carry 1/432nd the amount of data
just recently at work (Verizon) I had to give a tour to 10 reps from Canada to show them our fiber to the prem project...all aspects from the ground up...they say that they plan or building a network like this in Canada in the near future...so my friend it appears that Canada is the one behind the times...not the US (remember also that a fiber switch or an inter-office fiber is very different from fiber to the premise)
you can still use voip(not over dsl...over FIOS(because thats the service you have), you can still use a clec(3rd party company), you can still use a modem, you can still fax, the phone will still work when the power is out and also the data will still work in a power outage also you can plug the entire unit into another battery backup or UPS so that it all keeps working longer during a power outage. if you think otherwise, I am sorry but you are wrong
the cost of placing the fiber to the prem project throughout the Verizon footprint...several billion dollars, is equal to the cost of maintaining our copper network for one year...and the projected cost of maintainance for the fiber to the prem network is about 2% of the copper maintainance expense. fiber costs Verizon just pennies a foot and a single shot fusion machine completes a splice in 80 seconds, a mass fusion machine can splice a 24 ribbon fiber in under 2 minutes. Anyone who even thinks for 1 second that copper is cheaper and better is just wrong...no ifs ands or buts about it. (btw. the premise network is still copper..the cat5, the coax and the pots lines are converted at the side of the premise.. no microbends inside the premise to worry about)
Forgive me, but that is one of the most moronic things I have ever read. You obviously know nothing of the FCC and what it does, except maybe that it regulates the telcos and censors Howard Stern.If the FCC did not exist, we would end up with baby monitors bringing down commercial airliners and perhaps furbies launching weapons...I wouldn't want to wait for the whole "self regulation" thing.
Verizon is spending 60 billion dollars to build the FTTP network from the ground up, the existing copper plant will be available for other telcos and isps to lease as they please, why would you think that they should immediately give away a network that cost them so much to build? People should be thankful that a company is willing (in this day of stock price and profits drive decisions) to spend the money to build a full fiber network that is fully upgradeable as technology increases(due to the lack of any electronics in the field) that will be offering 100mb internet access by 2007 and currently offers 30mbs service for $59. Yes Verizon wants to make money with this new network, but they are the only company in the US willing to build a fully fiber network....sbc is building a hybrid network, and the cable companies have one of the most decrepid hybrid plants out there right now......and yes I do work for Verizon, I proudly run an organization that is building the FTTP plant.
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fiber is cheaper than copper, a million feet of 3700 pair copper cable costs about 200 times more that the same length of 432 ribbon fiber and will carry 1/432nd the amount of data
just recently at work (Verizon) I had to give a tour to 10 reps from Canada to show them our fiber to the prem project...all aspects from the ground up...they say that they plan or building a network like this in Canada in the near future...so my friend it appears that Canada is the one behind the times...not the US (remember also that a fiber switch or an inter-office fiber is very different from fiber to the premise)
you can still use voip(not over dsl...over FIOS(because thats the service you have), you can still use a clec(3rd party company), you can still use a modem, you can still fax, the phone will still work when the power is out and also the data will still work in a power outage also you can plug the entire unit into another battery backup or UPS so that it all keeps working longer during a power outage. if you think otherwise, I am sorry but you are wrong
the cost of placing the fiber to the prem project throughout the Verizon footprint...several billion dollars, is equal to the cost of maintaining our copper network for one year...and the projected cost of maintainance for the fiber to the prem network is about 2% of the copper maintainance expense. fiber costs Verizon just pennies a foot and a single shot fusion machine completes a splice in 80 seconds, a mass fusion machine can splice a 24 ribbon fiber in under 2 minutes. Anyone who even thinks for 1 second that copper is cheaper and better is just wrong...no ifs ands or buts about it. (btw. the premise network is still copper..the cat5, the coax and the pots lines are converted at the side of the premise.. no microbends inside the premise to worry about)
Forgive me, but that is one of the most moronic things I have ever read. You obviously know nothing of the FCC and what it does, except maybe that it regulates the telcos and censors Howard Stern.If the FCC did not exist, we would end up with baby monitors bringing down commercial airliners and perhaps furbies launching weapons...I wouldn't want to wait for the whole "self regulation" thing.
Verizon is spending 60 billion dollars to build the FTTP network from the ground up, the existing copper plant will be available for other telcos and isps to lease as they please, why would you think that they should immediately give away a network that cost them so much to build? People should be thankful that a company is willing (in this day of stock price and profits drive decisions) to spend the money to build a full fiber network that is fully upgradeable as technology increases(due to the lack of any electronics in the field) that will be offering 100mb internet access by 2007 and currently offers 30mbs service for $59. Yes Verizon wants to make money with this new network, but they are the only company in the US willing to build a fully fiber network....sbc is building a hybrid network, and the cable companies have one of the most decrepid hybrid plants out there right now......and yes I do work for Verizon, I proudly run an organization that is building the FTTP plant.