You can get 3rd party bootloaders for Linux and OSX, as well, and you don't need a 3rd party bootloader for Windows to dual-boot. Not sure what your point is.
The new 27" retina 5k iMac ships with a screen that's much higher resolution than retina. It's really the only display they sell, currently, that comes close to possibly cleanly rendering the print font they've co-opted as a display font. It is said (not by me, but I'm sure you can google for your own sources) that print fonts only stop looking like shit at about 600dpi or so; even the 5k @ 27in only provides a 218dpi display. Sure, subpixel rendering allows it to pretend to have a 654ppi horizontal resolution, but, to the eye, the 2-D plane is effectively only roughly 378dpi [( H * V ) ^.5, or the square root of the horizontal resolution multiplied by the vertical resolution]. Of course, that's only with subpixel rendering, and that's only good when chroma consistency isn't important; without subpixel rendering, it's plain old 218dpi.
As I said in a different post, I don't seen an issue with their font choice, it renders fine, to my eye, on my 17" 1920x1200 display, but a number of other posters have expressed their displeasure; I was simply providing a viable workaround.
And no, the Mac Pro was not designed for video, it was designed as a high-end workstation which, yes, can be used for video; however, let's not limit its use-case to that. It can be used for whatever the displays and other peripherals you attach to it allow it to be used for. I've been eyeballing a Mac Pro since the new ones came out, and video is but one thing I would use it for.
What are your bandwidth and storage requirements? What platform are you looking to build on? Shoot me an email with some details, I might be able to help you out on this one.
The fact that the green button now fullscreens an application is another change I don't like.
Agreed. My workaround is an app called BetterSnapTool. I use the green button now when I want to fullscreen an app, but if I just want to maximize it, so I can still CMD+TAB switch applications, I just drag it to the top of the screen and BST does the rest. BST also lets me snap windows to one side, or corner, of the screen. I started using it when I got an LG UltraWide display, with plenty of room to have 2 windows side by side and retain usability, and have been finding new ways to make the app useful ever since.
This is just another sight that I was correct when I said that Apple computers are poised to become accessories for Apple's iOS devices, rather than the other way around. Apple, clearly, now caters to two groups: iOS device users (who will also be the biggest spenders on apps and media) and creatives. I don't see a problem with this, from a business standpoint it, as it makes perfect sense; I do see a problem from it from the standpoint of software developer and Apple user who loves his 17" MacBook Pro and wishes they'd once again target his demographic.
Creatives will naturally gravitate to the best available displays, which means either the retina-class iMac or MBP, or the Mac Pro and whatever their display of choice happens to be, and Apple definitely has them covered. Helvetica looks just fine on retina displays (honestly, I think it looks just fine @ 1200p on a 17" display, too), so these users won't be likely to complain.
They sell the most expensive hardware to the group least likely to buy a lot of apps and media from Apple, and I agree, that's the way to go. Users of iOS devices have voiced that they want the look and feel of their iPhone, iPod, and iPad everywhere they can possibly get it. Well, those use Helvetica, they also use flat neutrals, transparency, and blur. Apple catered to those users, who are likely to buy the cheaper computer and spend more on apps and media, without a second thought.
If you're not in those two categories or, at least, don't follow either of those spending patterns, I won't say Apple doesn't care about you at all; they certainly care about anyone who wants to give them money, just just don't care enough to give a shit what you want.
Again, I fully agree with this from a business perspective. Unfortunately, I have my own business, which comes with its own perspective, and if that's the view Apple wants to take, it's sadly incompatible with reality for a lot of professional users. It really saddens me, as they were making strides toward developing a huge presence in professional fields before Jobs passed; that has not only slowed, but reversed, since then. It doesn't seem to be hurting their sales, yet, but I imagine it will when they start making more obviously negative changes to OSX's UI. They'll still sell to iOS users and creatives, and they'll probably remain the college student's PC of choice; but, by crapifying the interface (observation of others in this thread, which I've already stated I don't necessarily agree with -- but, me vs them, they're the majority, so I'm using their opinion for my point) on lower-end-but-still-current hardware, which the mass market is more likely to be able to afford when they choose to buy Apple, they're removing much of the allure of their platform. This can't be a good thing.
So, why not use Helvetica at higher resolutions and keep Lucida at lower resolutions? Then, everybody wins. Right now, even in Apple's own lineup, there's only one product with a screen that might benefit from this change, while it's a hinderance everywhere else.
Well yes, Bose speakers from 40-50 years ago were great. They lost their way in the late 80's and were way off course by the mid 90's, though, and they make crap today. Their active noise cancelling tech is really the only thing they do that's worth buying anymore. Sad, really.
For me, the problem with Bose has always been that they only sound "acceptably okay" at relatively low volumes, they tend to massively distort at what I would consider a normal listening volume. I've noticed this in both their speakers and their headphones.
Of course, when you lower the noise level, or remove the noise altogether, you also lower the required listening volume, which may be enough to bring Bose headphones back into the "acceptably okay" range, especially if you'll be using them in very noisy environments, where isolation (what you call a "good ear seal") blocks, at best, half the noise. This isn't my use case, so I can't justify the cost of a pair of Bose phones just to test that, but their ANC is among the best, if not the best, on the market, which is why other companies bother to license it, while I don't see anyone licensing ANC tech from Audio Technica or Sony.
Honestly, give me Sennheiser drivers and Bose ANC and I'll be a very happy man; the Sennheisers I use currently are great, with no noise cancellation whatsoever, until my boss forgets that his mouth can, in fact, close while he's eating almonds and M&Ms.
Without needing VMWare or any third-party VM, Apple (unlike Windows or Linux) fully supports dual-boot out-of-the-box.
That's a function of the bootloader, not the OS. GRUB, the default bootloader for most Linux distros of any popularity, supports dual-boot, tri-boot, quad-boot, however-the-fuck-many-boot, right out of the box. In fact, the Windows bootloader supports this, as well, though it's a bit more work to set up.
I'm sitting here typing this on a Mac, because the platform does have its advantages, but dual-boot isn't something unique to the Mac.
Correct. And that leads to there being no live editing, which leads to sync conflicts.
Well, did I not also say this?
Even tracking cursor positions is simple, though; you just use a different mechanism for it, either a direct connection between users, or a connection to a central location, where the information is exchanged in real time. It's active state data, not persistent, so there's no need to store it.
And, from there, it's trivial to also pass other events, such as key presses and editor commands, in the same stream. Check out SubEthaEdit, which Panic used as a jumping-off point for Coda. If you think anything you're blathering on about is new and hasn't been solved for decades, your lack of domain knowledge is leading you to redo work that's already been done hundreds of times over.
Furthermore, the real-time collaborative aspect of iCloud is something new that's being introduced in Yosemite. It is still, and always has been, a file storage and retrieval service. Now, it's a file storage and retrieval service that also provides a real-time communication channel, but that's also nothing new. The only reason you think it's new is because it has the word "cloud" attached to it; it's been done since the 70's, though.
Yes, I do retarded things to my engine. No, it doesn't seem to mind. I do need to replace the timing chain tensioner, though, it seems to want to adjust one notch too loose; not enough to cause it to skip a tooth, but definitely enough that it's noise as hell until it warms up, and it's definitely chain noise. Not oil-related, though.:)
So, at this point it looks as though it was alerting me to the OS X 10.10 (14A389) update, since the bubble has been gone since that was installed. Still, funny that, when I it was around, it only went away after viewing the Featured tab in the App Store, and then only until I'd close the App Store. Again, if it was alerting to a software update, then there should have been a damn software update on the Updates tab.
I have no clue what the bubble was actually alerting me to, there was no indication whatsoever, so I'm forced to speculate based on its behavior; that's Apple's failing, not mine.
You are extrapolating from a single data point, grasping at straws to justify the extrapolation, and calling yourself a visionary.
You say, in a thread where I've listed multiple data points. I'm not calling myself anything, I'm just saying what I see happening. 10 years from now, history will either call me a visionary or a moron; don't sit here and proclaim to be able to predict which will be the case.
Yup, you don't know anything I didn't put out there myself. You know what I look like, too. Your point? Google a bit, you'll find the forum post those images were for.
I'm not worried about my enemies tracking me down; the enemies I make all know where I live already, anyway. I have other defenses against the few who would wish to harm me, if you're trying to highlight how scared I should be.:)
Gah... I re-shot that first screenshot because I had censored my name from it, before taking the time to realize that it's trivial to google my/. username and find my real name anyway. In my haste to get this post out, I didn't notice that the damn bubble is actually missing from that shot, so here's the original. And, of course, as soon as I typed that, the bubble is back.
I'll follow up after I install the final this evening. I'd really like to believe Apple isn't doing something so retarded and I'm just experiencing an oddity; time will tell.
this is what I'm talking about. It's in the Apple menu (like I said), not over the App Store icon. Interestingly, it hung around this time, just long enough for me to snap the screenshot, then disappeared, this time without me having to launch App Store and view the Featured tab. Of course, now that I've written that, the bubble is back again...
So, it's not a software update, it goes away when I view the Featured tab (and stays gone as I view other tabs), and it comes back when I close App Store. Perhaps it's reminding me I need to Download Yosemite? Nope. It'll let me download it, which I've already done. And you just saw what my updates tab looks like; can you please, because I'm clearly missing it, point out how I can, to quote the App Store dialog, "Use the Updates page to install the 10.10 update"?
Maybe this is just a bug, maybe I'll find out this evening after I install the 10.10 release, but it sure looks intentional.
For reference: System Version: OS X 10.10 (14A388b)
It's indirectly related, but related nonetheless. An OS derives its functionality from its tools and applications; when it loses those tools and applications, or they lose functionality, the OS loses that functionality, as well. It's a long and slow process, as older software will often remain functional for as long as the OS supports it and an old version of the OS can remain functional for as long as the hardware running it still operates, but if you're making your living on the back of a given piece of software, you want it supported, and you want it running on a supported OS and on hardware that you can easily, cheaply, and most importantly, quickly replace if it fails.
Some of us see the change of course as it's happening, others don't see it until they've been taken too far off course to recover. Fortunately for the latter group, those of us in the former group know to speak up and call for a course correction before things get to that point. You're welcome.
That's great, if you need to put together a report that will only be shared in paper form, or give a presentation; not so awesome when you have to work with the outside world, especially in business, wherein we, Mac users, are the majority.
Need to make changes to that Excel spreadsheet that was sent to you by Jan in accounting? Great, import it, make your changes... now what? Oh, you can export it, no problem. Awesome!
Wait, there were expressions and macros in that sheet? Well... there were. How much productivity is lost when Jan has to either manually pick out your changes and merge them with her original, which you didn't screw up by importing and exporting it, or by manually re-inserting the expressions and macros?
For an average home user or student (though, some professors insist on MS Word format for reports and essays), Keynote, Pages, and Numbers are more than sufficient. The minute they need to interact with business, though, they're a hindrance; it doesn't look good when your vendor (or, worse, your client) sends your document back to you because they can't open it because you used software that has roughly 0.5% market share and insists on a proprietary format. Sure, you could send them a PDF; if that's a workable solution, you could also print it for them, but it's useless if you'll be exchanging the same document, each iterating your own changes to it.
Guess which side of the fence I fall on? Hint: Pages is useless to me. It's also not free on my 2011 MacBook Pro, since the machine didn't ship with Mavericks or later.
Subtle changes to the psychology of the interface to direct you, more frequently, to places where you can give them more of your money. Plus, I now have a persistent notification of "1 new" in my Apple menu, next to the App Store menu entry. If I launch App Store and click off of the Featured tab before its content loads, the notification remains; if I click over to Featured (you know, where they advertize stuff), it disappears. Until I close App Store, then it pops right back up.
Yeah, that's OSX becoming more productivity oriented and less consumption oriented, alright.
No, I'm claiming that it's becoming that. I'm still using it; if it were only a consumption tool, I would not be. Am I not allowed to voice my dissent and attempt to convince a company that I respect to change direction before they lose me as a customer?
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You can get 3rd party bootloaders for Linux and OSX, as well, and you don't need a 3rd party bootloader for Windows to dual-boot. Not sure what your point is.
The new 27" retina 5k iMac ships with a screen that's much higher resolution than retina. It's really the only display they sell, currently, that comes close to possibly cleanly rendering the print font they've co-opted as a display font. It is said (not by me, but I'm sure you can google for your own sources) that print fonts only stop looking like shit at about 600dpi or so; even the 5k @ 27in only provides a 218dpi display. Sure, subpixel rendering allows it to pretend to have a 654ppi horizontal resolution, but, to the eye, the 2-D plane is effectively only roughly 378dpi [( H * V ) ^ .5, or the square root of the horizontal resolution multiplied by the vertical resolution]. Of course, that's only with subpixel rendering, and that's only good when chroma consistency isn't important; without subpixel rendering, it's plain old 218dpi.
As I said in a different post, I don't seen an issue with their font choice, it renders fine, to my eye, on my 17" 1920x1200 display, but a number of other posters have expressed their displeasure; I was simply providing a viable workaround.
And no, the Mac Pro was not designed for video, it was designed as a high-end workstation which, yes, can be used for video; however, let's not limit its use-case to that. It can be used for whatever the displays and other peripherals you attach to it allow it to be used for. I've been eyeballing a Mac Pro since the new ones came out, and video is but one thing I would use it for.
What are your bandwidth and storage requirements? What platform are you looking to build on? Shoot me an email with some details, I might be able to help you out on this one.
The fact that the green button now fullscreens an application is another change I don't like.
Agreed. My workaround is an app called BetterSnapTool. I use the green button now when I want to fullscreen an app, but if I just want to maximize it, so I can still CMD+TAB switch applications, I just drag it to the top of the screen and BST does the rest. BST also lets me snap windows to one side, or corner, of the screen. I started using it when I got an LG UltraWide display, with plenty of room to have 2 windows side by side and retain usability, and have been finding new ways to make the app useful ever since.
gah... "just another sight" should be "just another sign".
This is just another sight that I was correct when I said that Apple computers are poised to become accessories for Apple's iOS devices, rather than the other way around. Apple, clearly, now caters to two groups: iOS device users (who will also be the biggest spenders on apps and media) and creatives. I don't see a problem with this, from a business standpoint it, as it makes perfect sense; I do see a problem from it from the standpoint of software developer and Apple user who loves his 17" MacBook Pro and wishes they'd once again target his demographic.
Creatives will naturally gravitate to the best available displays, which means either the retina-class iMac or MBP, or the Mac Pro and whatever their display of choice happens to be, and Apple definitely has them covered. Helvetica looks just fine on retina displays (honestly, I think it looks just fine @ 1200p on a 17" display, too), so these users won't be likely to complain.
They sell the most expensive hardware to the group least likely to buy a lot of apps and media from Apple, and I agree, that's the way to go. Users of iOS devices have voiced that they want the look and feel of their iPhone, iPod, and iPad everywhere they can possibly get it. Well, those use Helvetica, they also use flat neutrals, transparency, and blur. Apple catered to those users, who are likely to buy the cheaper computer and spend more on apps and media, without a second thought.
If you're not in those two categories or, at least, don't follow either of those spending patterns, I won't say Apple doesn't care about you at all; they certainly care about anyone who wants to give them money, just just don't care enough to give a shit what you want.
Again, I fully agree with this from a business perspective. Unfortunately, I have my own business, which comes with its own perspective, and if that's the view Apple wants to take, it's sadly incompatible with reality for a lot of professional users. It really saddens me, as they were making strides toward developing a huge presence in professional fields before Jobs passed; that has not only slowed, but reversed, since then. It doesn't seem to be hurting their sales, yet, but I imagine it will when they start making more obviously negative changes to OSX's UI. They'll still sell to iOS users and creatives, and they'll probably remain the college student's PC of choice; but, by crapifying the interface (observation of others in this thread, which I've already stated I don't necessarily agree with -- but, me vs them, they're the majority, so I'm using their opinion for my point) on lower-end-but-still-current hardware, which the mass market is more likely to be able to afford when they choose to buy Apple, they're removing much of the allure of their platform. This can't be a good thing.
So, why not use Helvetica at higher resolutions and keep Lucida at lower resolutions? Then, everybody wins. Right now, even in Apple's own lineup, there's only one product with a screen that might benefit from this change, while it's a hinderance everywhere else.
I'm so glad all of you stepped in to trash this guy, I just don't have it in me to deal with that level of ignorant anymore.
Well yes, Bose speakers from 40-50 years ago were great. They lost their way in the late 80's and were way off course by the mid 90's, though, and they make crap today. Their active noise cancelling tech is really the only thing they do that's worth buying anymore. Sad, really.
For me, the problem with Bose has always been that they only sound "acceptably okay" at relatively low volumes, they tend to massively distort at what I would consider a normal listening volume. I've noticed this in both their speakers and their headphones.
Of course, when you lower the noise level, or remove the noise altogether, you also lower the required listening volume, which may be enough to bring Bose headphones back into the "acceptably okay" range, especially if you'll be using them in very noisy environments, where isolation (what you call a "good ear seal") blocks, at best, half the noise. This isn't my use case, so I can't justify the cost of a pair of Bose phones just to test that, but their ANC is among the best, if not the best, on the market, which is why other companies bother to license it, while I don't see anyone licensing ANC tech from Audio Technica or Sony.
Honestly, give me Sennheiser drivers and Bose ANC and I'll be a very happy man; the Sennheisers I use currently are great, with no noise cancellation whatsoever, until my boss forgets that his mouth can, in fact, close while he's eating almonds and M&Ms.
Without needing VMWare or any third-party VM, Apple (unlike Windows or Linux) fully supports dual-boot out-of-the-box.
That's a function of the bootloader, not the OS. GRUB, the default bootloader for most Linux distros of any popularity, supports dual-boot, tri-boot, quad-boot, however-the-fuck-many-boot, right out of the box. In fact, the Windows bootloader supports this, as well, though it's a bit more work to set up.
I'm sitting here typing this on a Mac, because the platform does have its advantages, but dual-boot isn't something unique to the Mac.
Correct. And that leads to there being no live editing, which leads to sync conflicts.
Well, did I not also say this?
Even tracking cursor positions is simple, though; you just use a different mechanism for it, either a direct connection between users, or a connection to a central location, where the information is exchanged in real time. It's active state data, not persistent, so there's no need to store it.
And, from there, it's trivial to also pass other events, such as key presses and editor commands, in the same stream. Check out SubEthaEdit, which Panic used as a jumping-off point for Coda. If you think anything you're blathering on about is new and hasn't been solved for decades, your lack of domain knowledge is leading you to redo work that's already been done hundreds of times over.
Furthermore, the real-time collaborative aspect of iCloud is something new that's being introduced in Yosemite. It is still, and always has been, a file storage and retrieval service. Now, it's a file storage and retrieval service that also provides a real-time communication channel, but that's also nothing new. The only reason you think it's new is because it has the word "cloud" attached to it; it's been done since the 70's, though.
Well, in that case... Here is the original thread and the followup.
:)
Yes, I do retarded things to my engine. No, it doesn't seem to mind. I do need to replace the timing chain tensioner, though, it seems to want to adjust one notch too loose; not enough to cause it to skip a tooth, but definitely enough that it's noise as hell until it warms up, and it's definitely chain noise. Not oil-related, though.
So, at this point it looks as though it was alerting me to the OS X 10.10 (14A389) update, since the bubble has been gone since that was installed. Still, funny that, when I it was around, it only went away after viewing the Featured tab in the App Store, and then only until I'd close the App Store. Again, if it was alerting to a software update, then there should have been a damn software update on the Updates tab.
I have no clue what the bubble was actually alerting me to, there was no indication whatsoever, so I'm forced to speculate based on its behavior; that's Apple's failing, not mine.
You are extrapolating from a single data point, grasping at straws to justify the extrapolation, and calling yourself a visionary.
You say, in a thread where I've listed multiple data points. I'm not calling myself anything, I'm just saying what I see happening. 10 years from now, history will either call me a visionary or a moron; don't sit here and proclaim to be able to predict which will be the case.
Yup, you don't know anything I didn't put out there myself. You know what I look like, too. Your point? Google a bit, you'll find the forum post those images were for.
:)
I'm not worried about my enemies tracking me down; the enemies I make all know where I live already, anyway. I have other defenses against the few who would wish to harm me, if you're trying to highlight how scared I should be.
Gah... I re-shot that first screenshot because I had censored my name from it, before taking the time to realize that it's trivial to google my /. username and find my real name anyway. In my haste to get this post out, I didn't notice that the damn bubble is actually missing from that shot, so here's the original. And, of course, as soon as I typed that, the bubble is back.
I'll follow up after I install the final this evening. I'd really like to believe Apple isn't doing something so retarded and I'm just experiencing an oddity; time will tell.
this is what I'm talking about. It's in the Apple menu (like I said), not over the App Store icon. Interestingly, it hung around this time, just long enough for me to snap the screenshot, then disappeared, this time without me having to launch App Store and view the Featured tab. Of course, now that I've written that, the bubble is back again...
Of course, despite this notification bubble in the menu, there are no updates available, yet I still see the bubble until I click the Featured tab.
Of course, it comes back once I close App Store.
So, it's not a software update, it goes away when I view the Featured tab (and stays gone as I view other tabs), and it comes back when I close App Store. Perhaps it's reminding me I need to Download Yosemite? Nope. It'll let me download it, which I've already done. And you just saw what my updates tab looks like; can you please, because I'm clearly missing it, point out how I can, to quote the App Store dialog, "Use the Updates page to install the 10.10 update"?
Maybe this is just a bug, maybe I'll find out this evening after I install the 10.10 release, but it sure looks intentional.
For reference: System Version: OS X 10.10 (14A388b)
You sure seem to have a hardon for me today. Sorry, I'm already taken.
It's indirectly related, but related nonetheless. An OS derives its functionality from its tools and applications; when it loses those tools and applications, or they lose functionality, the OS loses that functionality, as well. It's a long and slow process, as older software will often remain functional for as long as the OS supports it and an old version of the OS can remain functional for as long as the hardware running it still operates, but if you're making your living on the back of a given piece of software, you want it supported, and you want it running on a supported OS and on hardware that you can easily, cheaply, and most importantly, quickly replace if it fails.
Some of us see the change of course as it's happening, others don't see it until they've been taken too far off course to recover. Fortunately for the latter group, those of us in the former group know to speak up and call for a course correction before things get to that point. You're welcome.
That's great, if you need to put together a report that will only be shared in paper form, or give a presentation; not so awesome when you have to work with the outside world, especially in business, wherein we, Mac users, are the majority.
Need to make changes to that Excel spreadsheet that was sent to you by Jan in accounting? Great, import it, make your changes... now what? Oh, you can export it, no problem. Awesome!
Wait, there were expressions and macros in that sheet? Well... there were. How much productivity is lost when Jan has to either manually pick out your changes and merge them with her original, which you didn't screw up by importing and exporting it, or by manually re-inserting the expressions and macros?
For an average home user or student (though, some professors insist on MS Word format for reports and essays), Keynote, Pages, and Numbers are more than sufficient. The minute they need to interact with business, though, they're a hindrance; it doesn't look good when your vendor (or, worse, your client) sends your document back to you because they can't open it because you used software that has roughly 0.5% market share and insists on a proprietary format. Sure, you could send them a PDF; if that's a workable solution, you could also print it for them, but it's useless if you'll be exchanging the same document, each iterating your own changes to it.
Guess which side of the fence I fall on? Hint: Pages is useless to me. It's also not free on my 2011 MacBook Pro, since the machine didn't ship with Mavericks or later.
And I'm sure there are no performance implications to this. Right?
Perhaps I did. Elaborate?
Subtle changes to the psychology of the interface to direct you, more frequently, to places where you can give them more of your money. Plus, I now have a persistent notification of "1 new" in my Apple menu, next to the App Store menu entry. If I launch App Store and click off of the Featured tab before its content loads, the notification remains; if I click over to Featured (you know, where they advertize stuff), it disappears. Until I close App Store, then it pops right back up.
Yeah, that's OSX becoming more productivity oriented and less consumption oriented, alright.
No, I'm claiming that it's becoming that. I'm still using it; if it were only a consumption tool, I would not be. Am I not allowed to voice my dissent and attempt to convince a company that I respect to change direction before they lose me as a customer?