Those people aren't hypermilers, they're assholes.
Hypermilers will carry on with what they do, so long as they can do so safely and within the flow of traffic.
I'm a hypermiler, but on a crowded freeway I do the same 70 as everyone else. During rush hour, you'll see me coasting to the already red light and accelerating at a sane rate (usually slower than the guy next to me but only because the asshole in front of me calls himself a hypermiler).
You'll see me making my lane changes as soon as possible, rather than at the last possible moment, knowing that, by waiting, I would be taking such risks as not being able to make that lane change (missing my turn or exit, choosing between being rear ended by the asshole tailgating me while I'm already doing 5 over and going faster than traffic in the neighboring lane or slamming into a parked car or a curb and THEN being rear ended by the tailgating asshole, or otherwise causing an accident).
You'll see me following the general rules of the road, not getting in the way of others who are doing the same.
Most of all, you'll see me at the pump once a month at the most. My recent trip to Michigan, where I racked up 500 miles in 2 days, being a rare exception. I had to fill my 14 gallon tank when I got home.
That's what hypermiling is.
If I notice someone coming up behind me, I evaluate my speed and the speed of surrounding traffic. If I'm doing the speed limit (up to 5 over) and there is no other traffic, fuck 'em, yeah they can pass me. If I'm matching speeds with people in my lane and going faster than the neighboring lane, really, fuck 'em. I'm not the problem, the excessive speeder who's hellbent on trying to convince me he's dumb enough to rear end me if he can't pass me at 5 over the speed limit is the fucking problem. The assholes who drive excessively slow in the left lane or don't match the speed of surrounding traffic, the dipshits who make excessive lane changes or wait until the last possible moment to get over (across 3 lanes) or don't bother getting over at all and go ahead and make their right turn from the left lane, the assholes that cut people off to be the first one at a red light, then take off as though they're working with 5HP, those people are the problem.
Hypermilers are a minority. All of the above are much larger groups than hypermilers and each of them cause their own, unique set of problems, which affect each of the other groups equally.
Hypermiling is, truly, nothing more than following the general rules of the road. Period.
I own a car, properly maintain it, drive it daily and spend less than that, including gas; not including insurance, which you would still be required to have when renting a car.
Buy a used vehicle that is in good condition and learn how to work on it yourself. I do my own oil changes at factory specified intervals using pricey synthetic oil. Counting the 3 oil changes I've done (technically 4, since I changed it twice the same day when I first got it -- glad I did, the first change's oil came out looking like the oil i bought with the car), new brake pads, plugs, wires, tires and alignment (even adding in interest on the card used for the tires), I've spent roughly $2000 in 16 months. Being that $1100 of that was the car itself, $200 was the tires (alignment was free), $80 covered the plugs, wires and first oil change (the double-change I'm so glad I did) and $40 for new pads last month, which should stay with me for as long as I own the car, we're looking at $1420 in essentially one-time costs, meaning I've spent roughly $580 between my other two oil changes and gas.
At roughly $30/mo for gas, I'll be at the $100/mo point in 6 months. Extended life oil and the oil change interval indicated on the air filter cover being 7500 miles mean I won't need to change the oil for another 3 months after that. That puts me at $92/mo in 9 months.
In 18 months, I'm down to about $75/mo.
Plus, I can drive whenever I need to. Living 10 miles from the nearest grocery store dictates that I'm better off driving. Being able to do so on the cheap dictates that I'm better off owning.
It's a little bit of work, but you can find a decent vehicle that gets great mileage and requires minimal maintenance at a reasonable price. You just can't do that buying new.
I put 176k on my truck, engine braking all the while. 3 sets of pads in 15 years. I sold it just over a year ago, new owner loves it and really appreciates 26MPG, city, in a medium sized 16yr old pickup.
McCain may be old but he won't be having a heart attack as soon as he gets into office. If he was going to have one, hes under enough pressure just campaigning.
My asshattery was intentional, in response to someone else's intentional asshattery.
If you follow the thread it play out like this:
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Complaint about UI on Mac version
Suggestion that Mac Photoshop gurus do a mock-up UI and submit it to the project
Proclamation that said Mac user was, in fact, a UNIX programmer
Suggestion to then skip the mock-up and submit step and do it yourself
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The original suggestion was a very valid one; namely, if there's a graphic designer out there who thinks they can come up with a better UI, provide a mock-up of it to the project for consideration.
The asshattish reply led to the asshattish suggestion suggestion.
The fact of the matter is that there is a system in place for fixing these things and complaint about them outside of said system or without suggestions on how to go about fixing the problem, especially comments that fall into both categories, are completely unproductive and generally not welcome.
If you have a problem, talk to a project developer about it by submitting a bug report or commenting on an existing bug ("Hey, I have the same problem, here's when it happens."). If you have a solution to a problem or a suggestion regarding finding a solution to a problem, submit it via that same channel.
If I had to scour the web looking for every random post about a problem with my software, how much time do you think I'd have left to fix it?
Right. That's why there's a centralized place for my users to complain about my software. If they don't complain there, I don't see it. I have users who understand this and I have users who don't. I have seen my users who do understand flame my users who don't understand and, frankly, I appreciate it; though I would appreciate it more if they would direct those people to the proper channel to file their complaints, so I can flame them directly for ignoring the big text on the log-in screen on their desktop before I thank them and begin working on fixing the problem.
Yes, this is a corporate environment. My users are my employees. They were trained as to the company policies regarding the reporting of software issues. Would I treat people who have a choice this way? Well, if they know where they got the software and can't figure out that's where they should complain about it, honestly, what do you think?
Truthfully, I don't affiliate with any political party, I was simply making a point.
Yes, they're both the same.
I vote for the candidate that can do the job or I don't vote at all.
McCain will have a heart attack if elected, leaving Palin in office. Fuck that.
Obama will be assassinated in his first week; sadly, as he truly could do good for this country. I'm not sure I trust Biden with Obama's oversight.
We are truly and royally screwed. Things like MS Touchless SDK are only a diversion to keep those of you who don't already realize it from doing so.
When I say we, I certainly do mean the world, not just the US. Palin will have an itchy trigger finger and lead us to nuclear war. I don't trust Biden not to do the same. McCain, if he survives his impending heart attack, will lead us to financial ruin. It will be a friggin' miracle if Obama is allowed to live through his first term.
This, my friends, is our world political situation, ignoring all other problems in the world. The US is leading the way to world suffering and the only thing that can be done about it is dissolution of the US government in its current form and removal of privately owned corporations from control of the US currency, by any means necessary.
I have plenty of karma to burn and a country to serve in the best way I am able. Mod me as you feel appropriate, but do your own research first and determine the most likely outcome of any current US presidential or VP candidate taking office before you do so.
He pointed out a very real correlation between ones ability to defend themselves from law enforcement abuse and the occurrence of such abuse. OP made no such correlation.
Because it's quite obvious that the big content owners have significant influence over our legal systems.
Yet they still have no control over our illegal systems; thus why such systems exist.
If I pay for it, it's my system, I want to control it. If you want it to be your system so you can control it, don't take my money and hand it over to me.
(I know, you meant legal system, but your ironic typo left set quite a nice stage for me to make my point.)
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I also included the money ($1100) I forked out for my car.
Vehicle insurance is all but free with the multi-line discounts that come with my renters and life insurance.
Oops, I failed to mention that it was a Jeep Comanche with a HO 4L inline 6.
That's double what everyone told me I should have gotten.
Does america still make cars, parts, and labor?
Cars? No.
Parts? No.
Does walmart cashier count as labor?
Those people aren't hypermilers, they're assholes.
Hypermilers will carry on with what they do, so long as they can do so safely and within the flow of traffic.
I'm a hypermiler, but on a crowded freeway I do the same 70 as everyone else. During rush hour, you'll see me coasting to the already red light and accelerating at a sane rate (usually slower than the guy next to me but only because the asshole in front of me calls himself a hypermiler).
You'll see me making my lane changes as soon as possible, rather than at the last possible moment, knowing that, by waiting, I would be taking such risks as not being able to make that lane change (missing my turn or exit, choosing between being rear ended by the asshole tailgating me while I'm already doing 5 over and going faster than traffic in the neighboring lane or slamming into a parked car or a curb and THEN being rear ended by the tailgating asshole, or otherwise causing an accident).
You'll see me following the general rules of the road, not getting in the way of others who are doing the same.
Most of all, you'll see me at the pump once a month at the most. My recent trip to Michigan, where I racked up 500 miles in 2 days, being a rare exception. I had to fill my 14 gallon tank when I got home.
That's what hypermiling is.
If I notice someone coming up behind me, I evaluate my speed and the speed of surrounding traffic. If I'm doing the speed limit (up to 5 over) and there is no other traffic, fuck 'em, yeah they can pass me. If I'm matching speeds with people in my lane and going faster than the neighboring lane, really, fuck 'em. I'm not the problem, the excessive speeder who's hellbent on trying to convince me he's dumb enough to rear end me if he can't pass me at 5 over the speed limit is the fucking problem. The assholes who drive excessively slow in the left lane or don't match the speed of surrounding traffic, the dipshits who make excessive lane changes or wait until the last possible moment to get over (across 3 lanes) or don't bother getting over at all and go ahead and make their right turn from the left lane, the assholes that cut people off to be the first one at a red light, then take off as though they're working with 5HP, those people are the problem.
Hypermilers are a minority. All of the above are much larger groups than hypermilers and each of them cause their own, unique set of problems, which affect each of the other groups equally.
Hypermiling is, truly, nothing more than following the general rules of the road. Period.
I own a car, properly maintain it, drive it daily and spend less than that, including gas; not including insurance, which you would still be required to have when renting a car.
Buy a used vehicle that is in good condition and learn how to work on it yourself. I do my own oil changes at factory specified intervals using pricey synthetic oil. Counting the 3 oil changes I've done (technically 4, since I changed it twice the same day when I first got it -- glad I did, the first change's oil came out looking like the oil i bought with the car), new brake pads, plugs, wires, tires and alignment (even adding in interest on the card used for the tires), I've spent roughly $2000 in 16 months. Being that $1100 of that was the car itself, $200 was the tires (alignment was free), $80 covered the plugs, wires and first oil change (the double-change I'm so glad I did) and $40 for new pads last month, which should stay with me for as long as I own the car, we're looking at $1420 in essentially one-time costs, meaning I've spent roughly $580 between my other two oil changes and gas.
At roughly $30/mo for gas, I'll be at the $100/mo point in 6 months. Extended life oil and the oil change interval indicated on the air filter cover being 7500 miles mean I won't need to change the oil for another 3 months after that. That puts me at $92/mo in 9 months.
In 18 months, I'm down to about $75/mo.
Plus, I can drive whenever I need to. Living 10 miles from the nearest grocery store dictates that I'm better off driving. Being able to do so on the cheap dictates that I'm better off owning.
It's a little bit of work, but you can find a decent vehicle that gets great mileage and requires minimal maintenance at a reasonable price. You just can't do that buying new.
Amen, brother.
I put 176k on my truck, engine braking all the while. 3 sets of pads in 15 years. I sold it just over a year ago, new owner loves it and really appreciates 26MPG, city, in a medium sized 16yr old pickup.
McCain may be old but he won't be having a heart attack as soon as he gets into office. If he was going to have one, hes under enough pressure just campaigning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a25jieLVOgw&feature=related
What has the person who actually complained about the contributions of others done that gives him the right to do so?
I was suggesting a solution to his complaint.
My asshattery was intentional, in response to someone else's intentional asshattery.
If you follow the thread it play out like this:
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Complaint about UI on Mac version
Suggestion that Mac Photoshop gurus do a mock-up UI and submit it to the project
Proclamation that said Mac user was, in fact, a UNIX programmer
Suggestion to then skip the mock-up and submit step and do it yourself
-----
The original suggestion was a very valid one; namely, if there's a graphic designer out there who thinks they can come up with a better UI, provide a mock-up of it to the project for consideration.
The asshattish reply led to the asshattish suggestion suggestion.
The fact of the matter is that there is a system in place for fixing these things and complaint about them outside of said system or without suggestions on how to go about fixing the problem, especially comments that fall into both categories, are completely unproductive and generally not welcome.
If you have a problem, talk to a project developer about it by submitting a bug report or commenting on an existing bug ("Hey, I have the same problem, here's when it happens."). If you have a solution to a problem or a suggestion regarding finding a solution to a problem, submit it via that same channel.
If I had to scour the web looking for every random post about a problem with my software, how much time do you think I'd have left to fix it?
Right. That's why there's a centralized place for my users to complain about my software. If they don't complain there, I don't see it. I have users who understand this and I have users who don't. I have seen my users who do understand flame my users who don't understand and, frankly, I appreciate it; though I would appreciate it more if they would direct those people to the proper channel to file their complaints, so I can flame them directly for ignoring the big text on the log-in screen on their desktop before I thank them and begin working on fixing the problem.
Yes, this is a corporate environment. My users are my employees. They were trained as to the company policies regarding the reporting of software issues. Would I treat people who have a choice this way? Well, if they know where they got the software and can't figure out that's where they should complain about it, honestly, what do you think?
Director.
Typos, gotta love 'em.
Err... What I meant to say was...
Mod parent insightful.
So, mod GP insightful.
Communications Directory in a company that has no IT Manager.
Same thing, in the short view.
Then, as a pretty sharp Unix programmer, why don't you make a better looking interface? I think his point still holds water.
Seven of Nine is very pleasing to the eye and I'm sure many would find her quite enjoyable.
Truthfully, I don't affiliate with any political party, I was simply making a point.
Yes, they're both the same.
I vote for the candidate that can do the job or I don't vote at all.
McCain will have a heart attack if elected, leaving Palin in office. Fuck that.
Obama will be assassinated in his first week; sadly, as he truly could do good for this country. I'm not sure I trust Biden with Obama's oversight.
We are truly and royally screwed. Things like MS Touchless SDK are only a diversion to keep those of you who don't already realize it from doing so.
When I say we, I certainly do mean the world, not just the US. Palin will have an itchy trigger finger and lead us to nuclear war. I don't trust Biden not to do the same. McCain, if he survives his impending heart attack, will lead us to financial ruin. It will be a friggin' miracle if Obama is allowed to live through his first term.
This, my friends, is our world political situation, ignoring all other problems in the world. The US is leading the way to world suffering and the only thing that can be done about it is dissolution of the US government in its current form and removal of privately owned corporations from control of the US currency, by any means necessary.
I have plenty of karma to burn and a country to serve in the best way I am able. Mod me as you feel appropriate, but do your own research first and determine the most likely outcome of any current US presidential or VP candidate taking office before you do so.
And when that future comes, we Democrats will piss on the Republicans who caused it.
Please mod me and parent both as troll.
.03 dollars or .03 cents?
This must be to cover the settlement they plan to make for the 1200 email addresses they exposed.
By pirating it, I'm attempting to determine its worth.
If I determine that it is worth the asking price, I purchase it.
If I don't purchase it, by this policy, I am proving its lack of worth.
If your goal was to hurt them then you just have to avoid purchasing it.
By pirating it, I am avoiding purchasing it.
Only SPARTA can call me out on that.
Until then...
I am SPARTA!
And. I. Am. SPARTA!
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He pointed out a very real correlation between ones ability to defend themselves from law enforcement abuse and the occurrence of such abuse. OP made no such correlation.
But only one over which they demonstrate any control. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.
Lulz.
Because it's quite obvious that the big content owners have significant influence over our legal systems.
Yet they still have no control over our illegal systems; thus why such systems exist.
If I pay for it, it's my system, I want to control it. If you want it to be your system so you can control it, don't take my money and hand it over to me.
(I know, you meant legal system, but your ironic typo left set quite a nice stage for me to make my point.)