And you've taken a look at all the paid upgrades to Mac OS X and you know just how many different little features they've added, and you can unequivocally say that each paid upgrade is a minor update. You know all about the enhancements to Preview, or the other features of Safari (private browsing, etc.), or the other features of TextEdit (can open Microsoft Word documents, can read tables) that have come with each paid upgrade. Right. Oh, by the way? If you wanna talk about free stuff, let's talk about Xcode, let's talk about CoreAudio, CoreVideo, CoreImage, CoreAnimation, CoreData, QTKit, PDFKit, etc., etc. Xcode is a free IDE, and the rest are all free APIs. And then let's talk about WebKit, let's talk about Bonjour networking, launchd, and Calendar Server. These are all open-source projects that Apple's made. More free stuff. I guess that's part of the "MAC philosophy", to charge $0 for stuff. Yup, that's right! Apple charges people out the ass for all that $0!
Let's just address one more thing: "MAC" does not equal "Mac". "MAC" refers to the MAC address of your ethernet hardware. A "Mac" is a computer designed by Apple. Can you please get that straight before your next trolling?
Oh, you still haven't addressed why you think Apple is cynical for giving discounts to educational customers, but why it's perfectly un-cynical for Microsoft to foist Windows software/hardware on class-action settlement claimants, or to sell a fundamentally broken product (Windows) and then charge for another product (OneCare) -- a yearly charge, in fact -- in order to protect that broken product. Oh, but that's right, you're a Windows troll, so you ignore logical arguments and only weasel your way into other questions to make it look like you know what you're doing even though you're really just a dumbass.
Haha, lol, and then you call me a zealot. Hint: there are these little things called "facts", you might want to check them out.
No, maybe you didn't get my point. Windows is fundamentally broken, as shown by the sheer number of viruses and trojans that affect Windows. "Introducing" security "features" helps to alleviate the damage that viruses and trojans cause. But since those viruses and trojans were causing the problems, the "new" security "features" help to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place -- i.e.: a bug fix.
Zero-configuration networking doesn't fix a bug that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Exposé doesn't either. System-wide Address Book or To Do services don't either. These are REAL features, value added to the operating system.
It's funny, because I didn't even address the fact that Microsoft makes a broken product (Windows) and then even SELLS yet *ANOTHER* product that ostensibly fixes the flaws in Windows that shouldn't have existed in the first place! And the grandparent post calls APPLE "cynical"! Hahahahaha.
Did you REALLY just say that?! Are you serious? Let's address the inaccuracies.
First, "updates" like Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger are not "minor". They are "major upgrades". They introduce new features. Jaguar introduced bayesian filtering, Quartz Extreme, system-wide accessible Address Book, Bonjour (né Rendezvous), iChat, Inkwell, CUPS, etc., etc. Panther introduced Exposé, Fast User Switching, FileVault, iChat video-conferencing, Font Book, system-wide faxing, etc., etc. Tiger introduced Jaguar, Spotlight, Automator, VoiceOver, RSS in Safari, etc., etc. Leopard is going to introduce Time Machine, Spaces, new versions of Front Row and Photo Booth, system-wide To Do service, etc., etc. Are you really calling these MINOR updates?
Let's see, in contrast, what are Microsoft's service packs? Pure bug fixes. No, the addition of a firewall and additional security aren't new features -- they're there because people were getting fed up with the viruses and worms that were (and still are) attacking Windows. That's bug fixing. Windows XP SP1 and SP2 are comparable to incremental updates like 10.4 --> 10.4.1, or 10.3.8 --> 10.3.9, not major updates like 10.3 --> 10.4 which Apple charges for.
Then you say that MS doesn't make bullshit claims in their advertising. That's a good one! Let's just take their latest "people_ready" advertising. If Windows were really "people_ready", then it wouldn't have all the viruses and trojans plaguing the platform.
Then you say, in an off-hand comment, that Apple gives discounts to schools to cynically "lock them in" as future customers. That's another good one! Microsoft doesn't offer any discounts to schools whatsoever? (Bullshit!) If you want to talk about cynical lock-ins, look at Microsoft's class-action settlements in California, where they attempted to foist Windows software on the claimants rather than giving them money. And that's not cynically locking people in? You've got a really short memory, it seems.
As for whether MS or Apple are great companies for which to work, I can't really comment on that because I've never worked for either. But I doubt you have either.
So let's tally up the points. 4 bullshit arguments. Oh.. *sniff* do you smell that? Oh, yes, I know that smell -- it's a Windows troll!
Grrrr... "relatedly" is not a word, and it should never be one. Dict.org doesn't have an entry, and the built-in Mac OS X dictionary doesn't have an entry. Arggh! I hate made-up words.
"Godwin's law (also Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. This tradition is more widely known than the original law, and there is considerable confusion between the two."
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And you've taken a look at all the paid upgrades to Mac OS X and you know just how many different little features they've added, and you can unequivocally say that each paid upgrade is a minor update. You know all about the enhancements to Preview, or the other features of Safari (private browsing, etc.), or the other features of TextEdit (can open Microsoft Word documents, can read tables) that have come with each paid upgrade. Right. Oh, by the way? If you wanna talk about free stuff, let's talk about Xcode, let's talk about CoreAudio, CoreVideo, CoreImage, CoreAnimation, CoreData, QTKit, PDFKit, etc., etc. Xcode is a free IDE, and the rest are all free APIs. And then let's talk about WebKit, let's talk about Bonjour networking, launchd, and Calendar Server. These are all open-source projects that Apple's made. More free stuff. I guess that's part of the "MAC philosophy", to charge $0 for stuff. Yup, that's right! Apple charges people out the ass for all that $0!
Let's just address one more thing: "MAC" does not equal "Mac". "MAC" refers to the MAC address of your ethernet hardware. A "Mac" is a computer designed by Apple. Can you please get that straight before your next trolling?
Oh, you still haven't addressed why you think Apple is cynical for giving discounts to educational customers, but why it's perfectly un-cynical for Microsoft to foist Windows software/hardware on class-action settlement claimants, or to sell a fundamentally broken product (Windows) and then charge for another product (OneCare) -- a yearly charge, in fact -- in order to protect that broken product. Oh, but that's right, you're a Windows troll, so you ignore logical arguments and only weasel your way into other questions to make it look like you know what you're doing even though you're really just a dumbass.
Haha, lol, and then you call me a zealot. Hint: there are these little things called "facts", you might want to check them out.
No, maybe you didn't get my point. Windows is fundamentally broken, as shown by the sheer number of viruses and trojans that affect Windows. "Introducing" security "features" helps to alleviate the damage that viruses and trojans cause. But since those viruses and trojans were causing the problems, the "new" security "features" help to fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place -- i.e.: a bug fix.
Zero-configuration networking doesn't fix a bug that shouldn't have been there in the first place. Exposé doesn't either. System-wide Address Book or To Do services don't either. These are REAL features, value added to the operating system.
It's funny, because I didn't even address the fact that Microsoft makes a broken product (Windows) and then even SELLS yet *ANOTHER* product that ostensibly fixes the flaws in Windows that shouldn't have existed in the first place! And the grandparent post calls APPLE "cynical"! Hahahahaha.
Did you REALLY just say that?! Are you serious? Let's address the inaccuracies.
First, "updates" like Jaguar, Panther, and Tiger are not "minor". They are "major upgrades". They introduce new features. Jaguar introduced bayesian filtering, Quartz Extreme, system-wide accessible Address Book, Bonjour (né Rendezvous), iChat, Inkwell, CUPS, etc., etc. Panther introduced Exposé, Fast User Switching, FileVault, iChat video-conferencing, Font Book, system-wide faxing, etc., etc. Tiger introduced Jaguar, Spotlight, Automator, VoiceOver, RSS in Safari, etc., etc. Leopard is going to introduce Time Machine, Spaces, new versions of Front Row and Photo Booth, system-wide To Do service, etc., etc. Are you really calling these MINOR updates?
Let's see, in contrast, what are Microsoft's service packs? Pure bug fixes. No, the addition of a firewall and additional security aren't new features -- they're there because people were getting fed up with the viruses and worms that were (and still are) attacking Windows. That's bug fixing. Windows XP SP1 and SP2 are comparable to incremental updates like 10.4 --> 10.4.1, or 10.3.8 --> 10.3.9, not major updates like 10.3 --> 10.4 which Apple charges for.
Then you say that MS doesn't make bullshit claims in their advertising. That's a good one! Let's just take their latest "people_ready" advertising. If Windows were really "people_ready", then it wouldn't have all the viruses and trojans plaguing the platform.
Then you say, in an off-hand comment, that Apple gives discounts to schools to cynically "lock them in" as future customers. That's another good one! Microsoft doesn't offer any discounts to schools whatsoever? (Bullshit!) If you want to talk about cynical lock-ins, look at Microsoft's class-action settlements in California, where they attempted to foist Windows software on the claimants rather than giving them money. And that's not cynically locking people in? You've got a really short memory, it seems.
As for whether MS or Apple are great companies for which to work, I can't really comment on that because I've never worked for either. But I doubt you have either.
So let's tally up the points. 4 bullshit arguments. Oh.. *sniff* do you smell that? Oh, yes, I know that smell -- it's a Windows troll!
Grrrr... "relatedly" is not a word, and it should never be one. Dict.org doesn't have an entry, and the built-in Mac OS X dictionary doesn't have an entry. Arggh! I hate made-up words.
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Careful, don't irritate those valkyries that take you away, otherwise you'll be hearing:
... and if you keep annoying them, they'll just make weird horse noises and mumble to themselves.
"This is very interesting...but stupid."
"I have ways of blowing things up."
"You're being very naughty."
"Who's your mommy?"
http://vjarmy.com/archives/2005/11/yahoo_invokes_g odwins_law_lose.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
"Godwin's law (also Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
Although the law does not specifically mention it, there is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. This tradition is more widely known than the original law, and there is considerable confusion between the two."