The WinFS team WAS the SQL team, from the beginning.
WinFS was a bad design from the get go, and no, it won't be in 7. The ideas behind WinFS were fundamentally flawed - you should be thankful that it isn't in there, and just hope for proper filesystem indexing and search.
"...children should have the skills to compete in the workforce by learning Linux..."
Give me a break. Children need to learn computing basics, and potentially some programming fundamentals as adolescents. Linux needs to present an experience that children can switch between - as my child does when she uses a Dell/XP combination at school, and a Mac at home. Saying children need to understand Linux itself is like saying everyone's kid needs to go through auto shop.
And to everyone who says conspiracy - this teacher, like millions of other people, has apparently never heard of Linux or the free software movement. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
That was interesting. Though I thought this was interesting too:
IBM is offering virtual systems based on the Open Collaboration Client through its Global Services outsourcing and system integration unit.
Meaning, the software is cheaper than Windows (I'll let you conclude what you want about the cost of the the services to integrate it into your business).
Actually, to your comment of pirating the channels - ironic that you mention the PCR. The hack to enable a digital out from the PCR, combined with hacking of the data feed meant for awhile you could perfectly cut songs on XM in relatively decent digital quality. I sold my PCR (bought for under $100) for way too much money on ebay during the heyday of the PCR as a, well... pirating tool.
You're kidding, right? Apple gives you a complete retail channel with a storefront and an end-to-end transaction that is brain-dead easy for the consumer, and leaves nearly nothing for the ISV to do besides make software, sign agreements, and "pay rent". You'd lose nearly as much if not more to a brick and mortar big-box store if you were wholesaling to them - and then you have to set up an entire retail channel - which ain't easy. People keep underestimating the value that Apple gives in this deal.
Software is licensed, not sold. First sale doctrine does not apply - Psystar CLEARLY violated the Apple EULA in at least two aspects - selling upgrade media as new installs, and selling it on non-Apple hardware.
BTW, your food analogy is illogical.
Considering Apple doesn't actually MAKE OS X available in any form other than that provided with new computers and as a new OS revision upgrade for existing computers, I'd expect Apple to make the case in such an instance that the OS isn't actually a product - because it isn't.
Apple already ties the OS to their hardware with code. Psystar broke that. That is one of the problems. The other is that they used Apple UPGRADE media to ship with their new non-Mac machines, clearly violating two aspects of the copyright holder's license on the product. Now they're suing Apple? Brilliant (not).
There is losing money directly, and then there is the harm caused by a shitbox that isn't a Mac, doesn't run like a Mac, takes forever to boot, but runs the Mac OS. The risk isn't direct - the risk is in product dilution by way of Psystar being allowed to harm the Macintosh brand as Apple, the trademark owner of the Mac and the copyright holder of the Mac OS elects to keep it.
These Psystar buffoons are idiots. They will go down in a colossal ball of fire. Antitrust law doesn't work this way, and they CLEARLY violated the license agreement for the Mac OS X Upgrade media that they were using, and hacking, to deliver their product. Pharewell Psystar. Can't say I didn't see it coming.
There is a DarWINE project - but for logical reasons has all but stalled. Primarily due to the move of the Mac from PPC to x86, but also with the arrival of more and more capable virtualization tools on the Mac, and the ability to dual boot, why bother???
It's Apple's software. It is licensed, not sold, to end-users. The licenses Psystar used are upgrade licenses. Apple doesn't sell "fully packaged product" in the sense Microsoft does with Windows. Meaning that because they weren't upgrading a Mac with an existing Mac OS, this was a violation of the EULA.
Honestly - this is a copyright violation, pretty cut and dried. Psystar's gonna get schooled.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. WinFS the vision, and WinFS the implementation were two totally different things. By the end, WinFS was SQL Server barely Scotch-taped to NTFS. It was not an object oriented filesystem. It was maimed, and needed to be put down, or at a minimum put out to pasture for another decade for Research to ponder the concept. Microsoft will never implement a truly object oriented filesystem. Never.
I suggested an XP virtual machine to be built into Longhorn for this exact reason. A senior manager told me, and I quote, "virtualization is not a solution to application compatibility".
You two have no idea. Marketing wasn't Vista's downfall. Vista's downfall was crappy, completely laissez-faire design and management. I was there. I watched management let it completely rot on the vine. Really.
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The WinFS team WAS the SQL team, from the beginning.
WinFS was a bad design from the get go, and no, it won't be in 7. The ideas behind WinFS were fundamentally flawed - you should be thankful that it isn't in there, and just hope for proper filesystem indexing and search.
"...children should have the skills to compete in the workforce by learning Linux..."
Give me a break. Children need to learn computing basics, and potentially some programming fundamentals as adolescents. Linux needs to present an experience that children can switch between - as my child does when she uses a Dell/XP combination at school, and a Mac at home. Saying children need to understand Linux itself is like saying everyone's kid needs to go through auto shop.
And to everyone who says conspiracy - this teacher, like millions of other people, has apparently never heard of Linux or the free software movement. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
That was interesting. Though I thought this was interesting too:
IBM is offering virtual systems based on the Open Collaboration Client through its Global Services outsourcing and system integration unit.
Meaning, the software is cheaper than Windows (I'll let you conclude what you want about the cost of the the services to integrate it into your business).
Actually, to your comment of pirating the channels - ironic that you mention the PCR. The hack to enable a digital out from the PCR, combined with hacking of the data feed meant for awhile you could perfectly cut songs on XM in relatively decent digital quality. I sold my PCR (bought for under $100) for way too much money on ebay during the heyday of the PCR as a, well... pirating tool.
You've never been to Houston or New Orleans, have you? Less humidity in the south is a good thing. :-)
You're kidding, right? Apple gives you a complete retail channel with a storefront and an end-to-end transaction that is brain-dead easy for the consumer, and leaves nearly nothing for the ISV to do besides make software, sign agreements, and "pay rent". You'd lose nearly as much if not more to a brick and mortar big-box store if you were wholesaling to them - and then you have to set up an entire retail channel - which ain't easy. People keep underestimating the value that Apple gives in this deal.
It descended because it wasn't extensible, wasn't secure, and honestly didn't do much that was that innovative besides provide some fun nerd porn.
It's not about technicality. It's about making it look anti-Apple. Marketing 101.
on a blue dress?
Software is licensed, not sold. First sale doctrine does not apply - Psystar CLEARLY violated the Apple EULA in at least two aspects - selling upgrade media as new installs, and selling it on non-Apple hardware.
BTW, your food analogy is illogical.
Microsoft was a monopoly. Apple isn't. Antitrust law doesn't apply.
x86/x64 systems don't ship with EFI... but other than that, you're right - it's effectively a PC. Albeit one that Apple built.
Considering Apple doesn't actually MAKE OS X available in any form other than that provided with new computers and as a new OS revision upgrade for existing computers, I'd expect Apple to make the case in such an instance that the OS isn't actually a product - because it isn't.
Apple already ties the OS to their hardware with code. Psystar broke that. That is one of the problems. The other is that they used Apple UPGRADE media to ship with their new non-Mac machines, clearly violating two aspects of the copyright holder's license on the product. Now they're suing Apple? Brilliant (not).
There is losing money directly, and then there is the harm caused by a shitbox that isn't a Mac, doesn't run like a Mac, takes forever to boot, but runs the Mac OS. The risk isn't direct - the risk is in product dilution by way of Psystar being allowed to harm the Macintosh brand as Apple, the trademark owner of the Mac and the copyright holder of the Mac OS elects to keep it.
These Psystar buffoons are idiots. They will go down in a colossal ball of fire. Antitrust law doesn't work this way, and they CLEARLY violated the license agreement for the Mac OS X Upgrade media that they were using, and hacking, to deliver their product. Pharewell Psystar. Can't say I didn't see it coming.
There is a DarWINE project - but for logical reasons has all but stalled. Primarily due to the move of the Mac from PPC to x86, but also with the arrival of more and more capable virtualization tools on the Mac, and the ability to dual boot, why bother???
It's Apple's software. It is licensed, not sold, to end-users. The licenses Psystar used are upgrade licenses. Apple doesn't sell "fully packaged product" in the sense Microsoft does with Windows. Meaning that because they weren't upgrading a Mac with an existing Mac OS, this was a violation of the EULA. Honestly - this is a copyright violation, pretty cut and dried. Psystar's gonna get schooled.
Do you honestly believe that Psystar has a single leg to stand on here?
Download Process Explorer from Sysinternals. Problem solved.
Funny is right... I can imagine the app compat mayhem these would introduce. Whee!!!
I've said it before, I'll say it again. WinFS the vision, and WinFS the implementation were two totally different things. By the end, WinFS was SQL Server barely Scotch-taped to NTFS. It was not an object oriented filesystem. It was maimed, and needed to be put down, or at a minimum put out to pasture for another decade for Research to ponder the concept. Microsoft will never implement a truly object oriented filesystem. Never.
I suggested an XP virtual machine to be built into Longhorn for this exact reason. A senior manager told me, and I quote, "virtualization is not a solution to application compatibility".
You two have no idea. Marketing wasn't Vista's downfall. Vista's downfall was crappy, completely laissez-faire design and management. I was there. I watched management let it completely rot on the vine. Really.
Mmm... Spaghetti!