Yeah, except that it's painfully obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that Internet advertising is not nearly as effective as TV and radio advertising. Cheaper, though.
I've had it happen to me more than once, both here and on Fark, and it's not just just about filtering. Any time you don't advocate 100% nuclear option law enforcement against child porn, the crazies come out of the woodwork and all critical thinking / actual *discussion* in the conversation evaporates in a matter of minutes (or span of a few posts).
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Maybe a way to combat this will be for you to NOT support FTP to any new customers. On your main website you may need to remove any mention of FTP and instead mention the other protocols instead. That way you keep your old customers happy but all your new ones secured. Heck, you can make a small campaign out of it, proclaiming what percentage of your customers are now safer... via email to your customers. That will spark some interest in your old base, at least the less informed ones.
This, right here, is not a bad idea.
Phasing support out can, over time, really work well.
Just make sure you don't have the account renewal system put them into a state where suddenly existing users can't use FTP again, or you'll be hurtin.
The "originals" scene in most US cities isn't as good as it is in many countries in Europe, for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which is that you can actually get to a venue or a bar that will have live music without having to drive yourself there.
There are amazing musicians in amazing original bands that get nothing in the US for a performance, simply because there's so few people watching to many bands.
Maybe musicians could get more into direct distribution.
Some are, *but* that's not the main problem.
It's exceedingly difficult to make it as an original musician these days for a variety of reasons:
Originals Venues don't pay as much now as they did in the 1970's (well, optimally you may get a one night agreement for an hour at 1970's price -- that's a few hundred for the whole band all together -- back in the day you could be a road band, play 5 days out of 7 with room board included for $150 or more per man per night as an original band... now you get $150 a man if you're an established cover band, in the same town, for a one night 4 hour set that *might* get some beers comp'd -- originals bands often play for free, on very long multi-bills, with 30 minutes including load-on/load-off)
The originals market is absolutely swamped with people who "just want to play" and will do so for free (and venue owners will take free over quality every day of the week)
People have stopped going to live venues as much due to increasingly draconian DUI laws
The above 2 result in people not going to live original shows, where new music can be promoted
Leaving the originals to do promotion on their own, which is very expensive (you need a lot of money to rise above the myspace crowd)
Since the bands don't play out as much, the A&R reps don't see as many new bands to sign, which is fine because there's little market for something that can't be cross-promoted by a label to a huge portion of the population. And thus, in order for a musician to make money,
You end up with towns that are 90% cover bands, because they're the only profitable type of band left
Yeah, the major labels blew the chance to get into digital distribution at the beginning. But in the end, it really is the musicians who get the shaft, not the labels. Musicians *need* the advances, distribution networks, and professional promotion skills of labels in order to rise above the quagmire. The economics just aren't there to do it independently (and never were).
I'm personally convinced that, for the most part, the "problem" will go away once getting music legally is easier than installing P2P apps and getting it illegally.
iTunes has gone a *long* way towards helping that, and convergence devices (like Shazam on the iPhone and RIM devices) are another good example (like a song? I.D. it and then give the option to download easily).
CDs/Tapes/Records/etc used to sell well for a variety of reasons, but one was that it was harder to find someone who had a copy, get them to dub it, and make sure it was in good condition, etc. Digital formats made the "quality" part (with proper knowledge) subside somewhat, but also made "find someone with a copy" easier.
Had media companies been able to get their act together and actually make a *standardized* DRM scheme that worked on all major devices and computers, it wouldn't have been as much of a failure as it has been. I suspect that it is partially because downloading hasn't hurt them as an industry as much as poor quality product has, and so the driving motivation to come up with one standard for DRM isn't quite there.
Interesting as well, many countries (i.e. Country A) do not tax revenue made by companies incorporated in Country A, but received by an office or subsidiary in a foreign country. The USA does, however.
Bingo. The copyright owner can do whatever the hell they want with their created content. They can give it away for free, give someone the ability to make limited copies, etc.
Let's put it this way -- if receiving on unauthorized copy of copyrighted material was actionable, then I could just copyright something, arrange to have someone else email it to everyone in the world, then start suing everybody who didn't delete the email!
Another flawed physical-to-digital object comparison. Since people don't typically clear everything in their email account before opening it, getting something illegal in the mail that was deliberately sent and not requested is dubiously actionable.
However, possession of stolen goods, where it can be proven that you requested to be sent (or purchased) something that turned out to be illegal (that a reasonable person would have known is likely to be illegal), that may be prosecutable.
Since, by far, most P2P sharing is people requesting files (i.e. "leeches"), people are requesting the files. People don't "happen upon" P2P software. They're told, "Hey, if you install you can get for free" by someone they know.
Also, P2P "protocols" don't specify anything about automated sharing of anything. You specify what you want to share (file types and/or file system locations) when you install the program.
Well, and to an extent, I can understand the conditioning. Downloading a movie or song for free doesn't *feel* like stealing, in that the chance you'll be in jeopardy for downloading it is very low (unlike physical object theft, which carries am much higher likelihood that you will be caught).
I imagine that this was the idea behind the MPAA/RIAA lawsuits, but the implementation was just awful.
And you can perform the exact same song in a concert, to which people (having heard your music) will pay to attend!
Unless you're crap, in which case, you'd want to keep your music as secret as possible until after they've bought tickets.
I fail to see where your problem lies, really.
PS I can fix my own lavvie. I can fix someone else's.
But copyright means I can't sing that song at a party and I can't make a copy of it for someone else.
You can sing the song a private party, if for no other reason than ASCAP doesn't care that much at that level.
If you're running a business that gathers revenue utilizing pre-recorded or live performances of copyrighted materials, then yes, you must pay the license fee.
The assumption is that something is copyrighted is the default as it should be. If something is allowed under a copyleft license or the like, no one is going to send a C&D to the p2p/torrent site demanding takedown.
In the case of most torrent/p2p site lawsuits, there's a paper trail of the rights holders (or their designated administrative organization) notifying the site that the works in question should be taken down and a failure of the site to do so.
There's only 3 countries that haven't signed on to the Berne Convention (Iran, Myanmar, and another one I can't remember), and Spain isn't one of them.
Now, you are correct about the expiry of some copyrights, but let's be honest, the overwhelming percentage of works being shared by P2P and torrent sites are still under copyright.
The Constitution allows the rights holders to license as they wish. If you want to broadcast something without limit, either pay what the license holder asks, or make your own content.
You'd think it'd be a simple matter for, say, BMI to just call up the station and verify if one of their member artists claims that a song they wrote is in rotation. A friend of mine, after years with BMI, is moving to ASCAP and has to decide whether to take BMI to court over all of the money they've shafted him.
It is, by no means, a perfect system. That's for sure.
All around, CRTs got *really* nice once the "threat" of LCDs started. I got a 19" Toshiba in 1999 which was by far the nicest looking CRT I ever owed, and I'd still be using it today if the coax connection wasn't broken (so I could use it without a cable box -- and DVDs get played on the HD LCD in the living room:D ).
My dad and his dad are/were tinkerers as well. My grandfather on that side was a watch repairman, and man, his garage was a sight to behold.
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Yeah, except that it's painfully obvious to anyone who has been paying attention that Internet advertising is not nearly as effective as TV and radio advertising. Cheaper, though.
If there are exceptions to being time shared systems, then the generalization by the poster is incorrect.
You should spend more time thinking and less time on 4chan.
I've had it happen to me more than once, both here and on Fark, and it's not just just about filtering. Any time you don't advocate 100% nuclear option law enforcement against child porn, the crazies come out of the woodwork and all critical thinking / actual *discussion* in the conversation evaporates in a matter of minutes (or span of a few posts).
Maybe a way to combat this will be for you to NOT support FTP to any new customers. On your main website you may need to remove any mention of FTP and instead mention the other protocols instead. That way you keep your old customers happy but all your new ones secured. Heck, you can make a small campaign out of it, proclaiming what percentage of your customers are now safer... via email to your customers. That will spark some interest in your old base, at least the less informed ones.
This, right here, is not a bad idea.
Phasing support out can, over time, really work well.
Just make sure you don't have the account renewal system put them into a state where suddenly existing users can't use FTP again, or you'll be hurtin.
The previous "cost" was having to watch/listen to advertisements. Without that to subsidize the broadcasting, you would have to, indeed, pay for it.
The "originals" scene in most US cities isn't as good as it is in many countries in Europe, for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which is that you can actually get to a venue or a bar that will have live music without having to drive yourself there.
There are amazing musicians in amazing original bands that get nothing in the US for a performance, simply because there's so few people watching to many bands.
"Mainframe" does not automatically imply "time sharing system". :)
You call The Maldives a failed state? or Angola? do you know anything about any of those countries that you didn't learn on TV?
"more than a few"
You should probably do more reading exercises than watching TV to see what they say or don't say about countries :)
Maybe musicians could get more into direct distribution.
Some are, *but* that's not the main problem.
It's exceedingly difficult to make it as an original musician these days for a variety of reasons:
Yeah, the major labels blew the chance to get into digital distribution at the beginning. But in the end, it really is the musicians who get the shaft, not the labels. Musicians *need* the advances, distribution networks, and professional promotion skills of labels in order to rise above the quagmire. The economics just aren't there to do it independently (and never were).
I'm personally convinced that, for the most part, the "problem" will go away once getting music legally is easier than installing P2P apps and getting it illegally.
iTunes has gone a *long* way towards helping that, and convergence devices (like Shazam on the iPhone and RIM devices) are another good example (like a song? I.D. it and then give the option to download easily).
CDs/Tapes/Records/etc used to sell well for a variety of reasons, but one was that it was harder to find someone who had a copy, get them to dub it, and make sure it was in good condition, etc. Digital formats made the "quality" part (with proper knowledge) subside somewhat, but also made "find someone with a copy" easier.
Had media companies been able to get their act together and actually make a *standardized* DRM scheme that worked on all major devices and computers, it wouldn't have been as much of a failure as it has been. I suspect that it is partially because downloading hasn't hurt them as an industry as much as poor quality product has, and so the driving motivation to come up with one standard for DRM isn't quite there.
Because, as the copyright administrators and/or owners, they can send you their stuff, free, whenever they want.
If you want stuff they don't offer for free, you need to pay the asking rate (assuming you want to do it legally).
In theory, yes.
Interesting as well, many countries (i.e. Country A) do not tax revenue made by companies incorporated in Country A, but received by an office or subsidiary in a foreign country. The USA does, however.
Bingo. The copyright owner can do whatever the hell they want with their created content. They can give it away for free, give someone the ability to make limited copies, etc.
Let's put it this way -- if receiving on unauthorized copy of copyrighted material was actionable, then I could just copyright something, arrange to have someone else email it to everyone in the world, then start suing everybody who didn't delete the email!
Another flawed physical-to-digital object comparison. Since people don't typically clear everything in their email account before opening it, getting something illegal in the mail that was deliberately sent and not requested is dubiously actionable.
However, possession of stolen goods, where it can be proven that you requested to be sent (or purchased) something that turned out to be illegal (that a reasonable person would have known is likely to be illegal), that may be prosecutable.
Since, by far, most P2P sharing is people requesting files (i.e. "leeches"), people are requesting the files. People don't "happen upon" P2P software. They're told, "Hey, if you install you can get for free" by someone they know.
Also, P2P "protocols" don't specify anything about automated sharing of anything. You specify what you want to share (file types and/or file system locations) when you install the program.
Well, and to an extent, I can understand the conditioning. Downloading a movie or song for free doesn't *feel* like stealing, in that the chance you'll be in jeopardy for downloading it is very low (unlike physical object theft, which carries am much higher likelihood that you will be caught).
I imagine that this was the idea behind the MPAA/RIAA lawsuits, but the implementation was just awful.
And you can perform the exact same song in a concert, to which people (having heard your music) will pay to attend!
Unless you're crap, in which case, you'd want to keep your music as secret as possible until after they've bought tickets.
I fail to see where your problem lies, really.
PS I can fix my own lavvie. I can fix someone else's.
But copyright means I can't sing that song at a party and I can't make a copy of it for someone else.
You can sing the song a private party, if for no other reason than ASCAP doesn't care that much at that level.
If you're running a business that gathers revenue utilizing pre-recorded or live performances of copyrighted materials, then yes, you must pay the license fee.
Yes, they have the same thing: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_digital
While I don't read Spanish, I did some googling. It looks like there is a tax, but there's no accompanying ability of citizens to download/copy.
The assumption is that something is copyrighted is the default as it should be. If something is allowed under a copyleft license or the like, no one is going to send a C&D to the p2p/torrent site demanding takedown.
In the case of most torrent/p2p site lawsuits, there's a paper trail of the rights holders (or their designated administrative organization) notifying the site that the works in question should be taken down and a failure of the site to do so.
So I was off by a few :)
(it's worth noting that more than a few of those are either failed states, dysfunctional states, or in weird political situations (taiwan))
The list of signatories is extensive, however.
There's only 3 countries that haven't signed on to the Berne Convention (Iran, Myanmar, and another one I can't remember), and Spain isn't one of them.
Now, you are correct about the expiry of some copyrights, but let's be honest, the overwhelming percentage of works being shared by P2P and torrent sites are still under copyright.
I do not think Spain has that sort of thing set up.
The Constitution allows the rights holders to license as they wish. If you want to broadcast something without limit, either pay what the license holder asks, or make your own content.
You'd think it'd be a simple matter for, say, BMI to just call up the station and verify if one of their member artists claims that a song they wrote is in rotation. A friend of mine, after years with BMI, is moving to ASCAP and has to decide whether to take BMI to court over all of the money they've shafted him.
It is, by no means, a perfect system. That's for sure.
I remember being flabbergasted that GEOS had a Y2k update published for it by some group. Amazing.
Sony made great CRTs in the early 1990s
All around, CRTs got *really* nice once the "threat" of LCDs started. I got a 19" Toshiba in 1999 which was by far the nicest looking CRT I ever owed, and I'd still be using it today if the coax connection wasn't broken (so I could use it without a cable box -- and DVDs get played on the HD LCD in the living room :D ).
My dad and his dad are/were tinkerers as well. My grandfather on that side was a watch repairman, and man, his garage was a sight to behold.