Every time you click a button that triggers a server-side transaction, the page needs to explicitly transmit info - a cookie, GET/POST variables, something - back to the server to "remind" it of its current state.
How do you think TCP works atop the "stateless" IP?
Most of us don't hang out on Blu-ray forums. I do recall a similar rumor, however, that TW was going to go HD-DVD exclusive. In other words it was all just bullshit. TW had no motivation to delay unless they really hadn't made up their mind.
Well, you might have noticed that the economy is seriously in the shitter, or perhaps you haven't.
Err, yeah, okay genius. Only consumer spending hasn't dropped at all. You're just full of shit again, spinning the world to fit your Blu-colored glasses.
Blu-Ray sales have quadrupled in a year
Almost entirely owing to I AM LEGEND. From very low to just low. Great.
Given that you claim that PS3 users are not Blu-Ray users
You make up stuff, twist reality, report nonsense from your Blu-Ray-4-EVA sites as "news", and now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Analysts expected Blu-ray standalone player sales to rise after it won, given that supposedly this would lift consumer confusion. No such thing happened. Simple as that, brainiac.
Given that you only have posted bile clearly from a lunatic
Sure thing, fanatic. Keep on making sweet love to your PS3.
Ridiculous. You and your ilk are the noisy annoyance of the tech world, grappling onto something and barking away. Holy shit is it boring.
Given the fact that Warner already in early November (seemingly accidentally) made it clear that they were going to back Blu-Ray, and that they also apparently notified Toshiba about this in November
You are just completely full of shit. I think you spend a little too much time at Blu-ray fan clubs. The funny thing was that Warner came extremely close to signing a pact with HD-DVD just before CES, but HD-DVD balked at the price.
The fact that stand-alone Blu-Ray player sales have declined is neither unknown nor much of a surprise
What a load of shit. Suddenly the coast is clear and it's time to buy a player, and no one does. The "the PS3 is the player" argument is unbelievably dumb, because the majority of consumers don't look to game systems when they buy a media player.
On the other hand, you weren't talking about stand-alone player sales
Err, yeah, I was idiot, hence why I directly linked to a fucking article about player sales dropping, contrary to all expectations.
You're just a complete idiot, so blinded by your Blu-ray fanaticism that you can't see what's right in front of you. Honestly I'm just shocked, figuring that the Blu-ray fanclub would have disbanded after HD-DVD conceded, but now I've learned that people like you are still getting together and talking tough about Blu-ray. Amazing the things people will waste their time on.
You are an idiot. Don't reply again, as idiotic ramblings aren't necessary.
Which only goes to prove video game console sales are about video games. Since when did it's movie playing abilities really matter?
It's just a value-add that makes justifying the purchase a little more palatable. The PS1 saw a lot of its success because many justified shelling out for it under the premise that it saved them the cost of a DVD player. Now for those who've considered the next generation who are in the market for a game machine (say when something like GTA IV comes out and it proves enticing, and you know that both machines are pretty much on par...but that PS3 also gives you a BR player...)
Hey ergo98, how is Sony's health plan?
Bizarre -- most of my other posts are by defensive Playstation humpers, desperately fending off any commentary that is less than fawning about their beloved. Now you call me a Sony employee. Bizarre.
This is clearly one of those topics where people have their tribes and they just want to hoist around a flag. You outta see that SuperKendal guy running around, face red with a cone of spittle flying from his odoriferous, rotting mouth.
Didn't you yield the last response on your last post? I suspect that you're a little confused about how to do that.
You have said nothing of interest, whatsoever, but started your Blu-ray zealotry display by insults and innuendo. Grow up, SuperKendall, and find something useful to do with your time. Thus far your proof has been an Amazon price chart for an obsolete Sony blu-ray player. You are truly a hilarious person.
And calling The Globe and Mail an obscure tech blog (or maybe you're talking about the other link I posted, which was the NY Times) just seals your absolutely, insurmountable idiocy into the history books.
You are an idiot, SuperKendall. You're a fanatic looking the fight for a cause, so you cast people who aren't even arguing the opposite as your foe. Honestly I'd love to go at it, but you are too stupid, too boorish, and too annoying to bother with.
It is overwhelmingly obvious that I am talking specifically about high definition optical formats, or rather format -- blu-ray.
No, they *don't* push blu-ray. The fact that they sell high-definition televisions, usually coupled with high-def cable boxes, in no way says anything whatsoever about blu-ray.
At this point I have to hope that you are just satirical, trying to post as a fanatical fanboy would. Blu-ray! Blu-ray! Blu-ray! Blu-ray!
What will you do when by the end of the year Blu-Ray has grown further in market share?
Uh...cry? What do you want me to say? Blu-ray won, so I, uh, own a blu-ray player, dipshit, so why the fuck would I care either way, but noting the hilarious paradox that is competition.
annot simply move on from a war they are still fighting that is over.
Holy fuck, shit for brains, look in the fucking mirror. Again, you are absolutely unbelievably stupid, just parroting rhetoric, still fighting a battle that is over.
Yes, all those media reports about Blu-ray prices going up -- it's all my secret agenda to deceive! All those media reports about Blu-ray player sales coming to a standstill -- it's all my secret agenda!
The fact that major electronic retailers no longer put any effort whatsoever into pushing high defintion -- it's all my secret agenda.
Ah, so everybody who disagrees with your assertions, assertions that are provably wrong, must be a fanatic?
Someone who comes up slinging insults because their beloved didn't get the care and attention they think it deserves qualifies. See: you. It's just boring, and you need to let go of the HD-DVD/Blu-ray rage. The war is over, guy.
Again, you really are just making up your arguments as you go
Yeah, I sure am. Everyone, if you want to know Warner's decision, just talk to terjeber -- he'll set you straight. It learned it straight from the bastion of truth: His local Blu-ray fan club.
You make up your own arguments, pull "statistics" out of your ass, and in general scream and shout that you are right though a casual inspection of the real world shows you are wrong
The war is over. Put down your guns. Nonetheless, use Google -- you can find it at http://www.google.com/ -- and search up things like DVD sales decline Warner, or Blu-ray sales decline, and find lots and lots of interesting stats for your edification. Perhaps of the sort that you don't find at Blu-Ray-Fanatics.com
Not to mention that using Amazon for stats doesn't really make that strong of a case.
You can find standard definition DVDs *everywhere* (even in gas stations now), whereas a reasonable collection of high-def media is harder to come by. The fact that high-def does well on an online shopping site...not so surprising.
It's quite possible this is because you don't want to look closely, you're too busy declaring the death of BluRay to see that it isn't dying.
Honestly, I would have thought that the Blu-ray fanatics would have found some new cause by now. This is just bizarre.
Declaring the death of Blu-ray? Amazingly, I said no such thing. The reality might just happen to be that the whole HD-DVD/Blu-ray battle made for a lot of media, with each battlefront move getting significant media coverage, and interest by the public (many of whom want some "cause" to sign up to, declaring their fealty). After the battle died down and the media disappeared...most just don't care.
And honestly, the fact that *you* seek out Blu-ray information says nothing about the general public. I am effectively the general public in this, and I can say that in Ontario, retailers like Best Buy, Future Shop, and even Walmart, have just completely stopped talking about the next generation formats. Where once there was 4 or more pages in each flier, now there is nothing at all.
Yeah, I could search out Blu-ray specific information, vectoring out from my Blu-ray-forever fanclub if I were to opt to join one, but that kinda misses the whole point, doesn't it?
Warner, which sealed HD-DVDs fate, justified their move based upon the fact that DVD sales were in freefall (piracy, more entertainment opportunities most prevalent being the internet, and so on, made DVDs less compelling. Add that to the fact that many just use services like NetFlix or Zip.ca, skipping the whole concept of buying discs). Warner opined that if they made the next-generation format more certain by backing one, that would compel buyers to starting buying optical discs again.
Oh but look -- compared to freefalling DVDs, Blu-ray is only freefalling just as much...over 30 days. COMPELLING.
So you never leave your house any more?
Yeah, okay. A bit of life advice -- getting so passionate and defensive about an optical format is just weird, and it really isn't worth your vitriol. Save it for a political debate or something.
Alternately, all you're seeing is the effects of your Dollar's free fall.
I'm Canadian. Our dollar has appreciated some 40% against the greenback in the past year. Old problem is that Blu-ray prices have increased in lockstep.
Player prices have dropped? Maybe your stronger Euro is misleading you, but there have been no price drops. Quite the opposite. Blu-ray players used to be freebies with sets, and you'd get a bunch of discs, and there were endless promotions and price cuts. Last I can see, there's zero promotions, and prices average over $400.
BluRay disc sales have multiplied in the past 6 first months of this year
I Am Legend almost singlehandedly accounted for a spike in the minuscule sales totals for Blu-ray.
The PS3 remains the most popular Blu-Ray player by far and sales appear to be accelerating. Blu-Ray's win appears to be what vaulted the PS3 to second place and relegated the XBox360 to third in monthly sales.
No doubt about that -- it is a huge advantage of the PS3. I'm now seeing new XBox 360s for sale sub-$260 (while the PS3 is at the same $399 that it's been at for well over a year), so while Microsoft claimed it wouldn't impact them when HD-DVD failed, I suspect it's going to cost them dearly as they need to try to get sales through price cuts.
There were some pretty passionate debates on here, however many of the Blu-ray supporters cheered on the demise of HD-DVD, surmising that it would accelerate acceptance, reduce prices, simplify things, allow retailers to focus.
Here's what happened since HD-DVD caved in-
Blu-ray players have gotten more expensive. In some cases, a lot more expensive
Blu-ray sales, paradoxically, have collapsed
High definition media gets almost no attention
Retailers that used to push both Blu-ray and HD-DVD now push....nothing. I find it hard even finding a single Blu-ray player for sale.
Just thought it worthwhile to take a moment to point out how things actually turned out. It's pretty remarkable, really, but even Blu-ray did better when it had an opponent to fight. After the battle, most just hung up their cares and said "Meh...upscaled DVD is fine".
I find it interesting that you only mention web technologies in a discussion about.NET
It generally tends to be what people are comparing on Slashdot discussions, so I kind of went with that..NET is also a great platform for SOA solutions (sadly I must mention Web Services/WCF), and is great for writing services.
On the fat-client side...I just don't find it very compelling, for much the same reason that Java wasn't very compelling.
.NET is dying? why is that? I thought it was a fairly powerful language/framework and had lots of potential, why is it falling behind? I'd really like to know.
I think the GP is just voicing some wishful thinking. In my experience in the market.NET is doing very well, although of course it doesn't dominate (Microsoft server web technologies have never dominated).
It really is a great little environment, and even if a lot of it is a conceptual rip-off of Java, it is one of the best things Microsoft has done in years.
You know you really wanted to say "librul media" but knew you'd get bitch-slapped if you did.
No, I didn't want to say that at all (it's actually a bit ridiculous to say, given that the conservative movement is stereotyped for using fear and doubt to push their agenda through, so doesn't my statement correlate more with "the vast right-wing neocon cabal media"?).
Minus bad news, most news outlets simply wouldn't exist. Their most excellent moments are when lots of people get shot up, killed in a natural disaster, war breaks out, or the Japanese are takin' our jobs!
The average half-hour news outing goes something like this-
29 minutes of bad news. 1 minute for a light-hearted "human interest" story.
Back in 2004, I was told by a few high level realtors that interact a great deal with D.C. to sell my house as soon as possible
Wow, they got you to sell way early then, failing to capitalize on a lot of appreciation. Alas. It does take a genius to have recognized a housing bubble -- you know, pretty much everyone did, but then it's just a matter of knowing when it's going to pop. Pop!
because our interest rates were too low
They must have been drunk. Now maybe they really said that people were overextended and any rise in interest rates would threaten their buying power, reducing the prospective pool of buyers within upper purchase brackets...but that interest rates were too low? They wouldn't have said something dumb like that.
Now, I hear from Warren Buffet and Bill Gates say that we ARE in a recession against because of interst rate too low and federal deficit too high, so they are pulling out of more AMerican ventures save specialized ones, converting their dollars to Euros. THey are both investing heavily into Europe and other offshores.
Ignoring the Bill Gates thing, because you seem to have simply made that up (him being a rich guy and all...having been involved with Microsoft makes him an economics guru, right?), given that Gates has never been a financial prognosticator, and ignoring the interest rates are too low nonsense that reappears once again -- you do realize that Buffet makes his billions by *not* telling you what he's doing, right? That is his whole strategy, of trying to be ahead of the curve.
Of course, our current admin would not fudge figures or lie to us now, would they?
What's with people trying to politicize this? There are a lot of people gathering statistics and calculating the numbers, and many of them have an agenda to bring you bad news (that is their bread and butter). This continued insistence that it's all a Bush administration dupe is just bizarre.
The term "poor economy" can be, and has in the past been, a self fulfilling prophecy.
I almost think that the incredible amount of negative information, and the subduing of relatively good information, is actually a bit cathartic for the economy -- everyone is getting all of their bad vibes out while the economy idles along quite fine, and will be psychologically ready for the next grown bubble.
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How do you think TCP works atop the "stateless" IP?
The whole stateless/stateful thing is extremely dated, and not even logically correct. HTTP w/cookies is stateful, and has been for a long time.
Most of us don't hang out on Blu-ray forums. I do recall a similar rumor, however, that TW was going to go HD-DVD exclusive. In other words it was all just bullshit. TW had no motivation to delay unless they really hadn't made up their mind.
Err, yeah, okay genius. Only consumer spending hasn't dropped at all. You're just full of shit again, spinning the world to fit your Blu-colored glasses.
Almost entirely owing to I AM LEGEND. From very low to just low. Great.
You make up stuff, twist reality, report nonsense from your Blu-Ray-4-EVA sites as "news", and now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Analysts expected Blu-ray standalone player sales to rise after it won, given that supposedly this would lift consumer confusion. No such thing happened. Simple as that, brainiac.
Sure thing, fanatic. Keep on making sweet love to your PS3.
Ridiculous. You and your ilk are the noisy annoyance of the tech world, grappling onto something and barking away. Holy shit is it boring.
You are just completely full of shit. I think you spend a little too much time at Blu-ray fan clubs. The funny thing was that Warner came extremely close to signing a pact with HD-DVD just before CES, but HD-DVD balked at the price.
What a load of shit. Suddenly the coast is clear and it's time to buy a player, and no one does. The "the PS3 is the player" argument is unbelievably dumb, because the majority of consumers don't look to game systems when they buy a media player.
Err, yeah, I was idiot, hence why I directly linked to a fucking article about player sales dropping, contrary to all expectations.
You're just a complete idiot, so blinded by your Blu-ray fanaticism that you can't see what's right in front of you. Honestly I'm just shocked, figuring that the Blu-ray fanclub would have disbanded after HD-DVD conceded, but now I've learned that people like you are still getting together and talking tough about Blu-ray. Amazing the things people will waste their time on.
You are an idiot. Don't reply again, as idiotic ramblings aren't necessary.
It's just a value-add that makes justifying the purchase a little more palatable. The PS1 saw a lot of its success because many justified shelling out for it under the premise that it saved them the cost of a DVD player. Now for those who've considered the next generation who are in the market for a game machine (say when something like GTA IV comes out and it proves enticing, and you know that both machines are pretty much on par...but that PS3 also gives you a BR player...)
Bizarre -- most of my other posts are by defensive Playstation humpers, desperately fending off any commentary that is less than fawning about their beloved. Now you call me a Sony employee. Bizarre.
This is clearly one of those topics where people have their tribes and they just want to hoist around a flag. You outta see that SuperKendal guy running around, face red with a cone of spittle flying from his odoriferous, rotting mouth.
Come on, SuperKendall -- don't hide behind the AC. Spread your fanaticism out in the open.
You made a point somewhere? Nah, I don't think you actually have.
Grow up. The war is over, asshole. Go take up Mac zealotry or something.
Awesome stuff. Yes, idiot, I should have noticed a Walmart sale happening next week by following rumor sites for Walmart employees.
You are truly awesome, because I know that you are blissfully unaware of your stupidity.
Didn't you yield the last response on your last post? I suspect that you're a little confused about how to do that.
You have said nothing of interest, whatsoever, but started your Blu-ray zealotry display by insults and innuendo. Grow up, SuperKendall, and find something useful to do with your time. Thus far your proof has been an Amazon price chart for an obsolete Sony blu-ray player. You are truly a hilarious person.
And calling The Globe and Mail an obscure tech blog (or maybe you're talking about the other link I posted, which was the NY Times) just seals your absolutely, insurmountable idiocy into the history books.
You are an idiot, SuperKendall. You're a fanatic looking the fight for a cause, so you cast people who aren't even arguing the opposite as your foe. Honestly I'd love to go at it, but you are too stupid, too boorish, and too annoying to bother with.
It is overwhelmingly obvious that I am talking specifically about high definition optical formats, or rather format -- blu-ray.
No, they *don't* push blu-ray. The fact that they sell high-definition televisions, usually coupled with high-def cable boxes, in no way says anything whatsoever about blu-ray.
Uh...cry? What do you want me to say? Blu-ray won, so I, uh, own a blu-ray player, dipshit, so why the fuck would I care either way, but noting the hilarious paradox that is competition.
Holy fuck, shit for brains, look in the fucking mirror. Again, you are absolutely unbelievably stupid, just parroting rhetoric, still fighting a battle that is over.
Yeah, except for the link detailing Blu-ray's moribund sales. As for other links...well honestly it's just sad at this point.
Go join the army or something. Isn't there a better cause than being a blu-ray shill? The format won, already! Give it up.
Unbelievable.
Yes, all those media reports about Blu-ray prices going up -- it's all my secret agenda to deceive! All those media reports about Blu-ray player sales coming to a standstill -- it's all my secret agenda!
The fact that major electronic retailers no longer put any effort whatsoever into pushing high defintion -- it's all my secret agenda.
Extraordinary stuff.
Someone who comes up slinging insults because their beloved didn't get the care and attention they think it deserves qualifies. See: you. It's just boring, and you need to let go of the HD-DVD/Blu-ray rage. The war is over, guy.
Yeah, I sure am. Everyone, if you want to know Warner's decision, just talk to terjeber -- he'll set you straight. It learned it straight from the bastion of truth: His local Blu-ray fan club.
The war is over. Put down your guns. Nonetheless, use Google -- you can find it at http://www.google.com/ -- and search up things like DVD sales decline Warner, or Blu-ray sales decline, and find lots and lots of interesting stats for your edification. Perhaps of the sort that you don't find at Blu-Ray-Fanatics.com
Not to mention that using Amazon for stats doesn't really make that strong of a case.
You can find standard definition DVDs *everywhere* (even in gas stations now), whereas a reasonable collection of high-def media is harder to come by. The fact that high-def does well on an online shopping site...not so surprising.
Honestly, I would have thought that the Blu-ray fanatics would have found some new cause by now. This is just bizarre.
Declaring the death of Blu-ray? Amazingly, I said no such thing. The reality might just happen to be that the whole HD-DVD/Blu-ray battle made for a lot of media, with each battlefront move getting significant media coverage, and interest by the public (many of whom want some "cause" to sign up to, declaring their fealty). After the battle died down and the media disappeared...most just don't care.
And honestly, the fact that *you* seek out Blu-ray information says nothing about the general public. I am effectively the general public in this, and I can say that in Ontario, retailers like Best Buy, Future Shop, and even Walmart, have just completely stopped talking about the next generation formats. Where once there was 4 or more pages in each flier, now there is nothing at all.
Yeah, I could search out Blu-ray specific information, vectoring out from my Blu-ray-forever fanclub if I were to opt to join one, but that kinda misses the whole point, doesn't it?
Another Blu-ray fanatic.
Warner, which sealed HD-DVDs fate, justified their move based upon the fact that DVD sales were in freefall (piracy, more entertainment opportunities most prevalent being the internet, and so on, made DVDs less compelling. Add that to the fact that many just use services like NetFlix or Zip.ca, skipping the whole concept of buying discs). Warner opined that if they made the next-generation format more certain by backing one, that would compel buyers to starting buying optical discs again.
Oh but look -- compared to freefalling DVDs, Blu-ray is only freefalling just as much...over 30 days. COMPELLING.
Yeah, okay. A bit of life advice -- getting so passionate and defensive about an optical format is just weird, and it really isn't worth your vitriol. Save it for a political debate or something.
I'm Canadian. Our dollar has appreciated some 40% against the greenback in the past year. Old problem is that Blu-ray prices have increased in lockstep.
Here's what happened after Blu-ray won.
Player prices have dropped? Maybe your stronger Euro is misleading you, but there have been no price drops. Quite the opposite. Blu-ray players used to be freebies with sets, and you'd get a bunch of discs, and there were endless promotions and price cuts. Last I can see, there's zero promotions, and prices average over $400.
I Am Legend almost singlehandedly accounted for a spike in the minuscule sales totals for Blu-ray.
No doubt about that -- it is a huge advantage of the PS3. I'm now seeing new XBox 360s for sale sub-$260 (while the PS3 is at the same $399 that it's been at for well over a year), so while Microsoft claimed it wouldn't impact them when HD-DVD failed, I suspect it's going to cost them dearly as they need to try to get sales through price cuts.
Here's what happened since HD-DVD caved in-
Just thought it worthwhile to take a moment to point out how things actually turned out. It's pretty remarkable, really, but even Blu-ray did better when it had an opponent to fight. After the battle, most just hung up their cares and said "Meh...upscaled DVD is fine".
It generally tends to be what people are comparing on Slashdot discussions, so I kind of went with that.
On the fat-client side...I just don't find it very compelling, for much the same reason that Java wasn't very compelling.
I think the GP is just voicing some wishful thinking. In my experience in the market
It really is a great little environment, and even if a lot of it is a conceptual rip-off of Java, it is one of the best things Microsoft has done in years.
No, I didn't want to say that at all (it's actually a bit ridiculous to say, given that the conservative movement is stereotyped for using fear and doubt to push their agenda through, so doesn't my statement correlate more with "the vast right-wing neocon cabal media"?).
Minus bad news, most news outlets simply wouldn't exist. Their most excellent moments are when lots of people get shot up, killed in a natural disaster, war breaks out, or the Japanese are takin' our jobs!
The average half-hour news outing goes something like this-
29 minutes of bad news. 1 minute for a light-hearted "human interest" story.
Wow, they got you to sell way early then, failing to capitalize on a lot of appreciation. Alas. It does take a genius to have recognized a housing bubble -- you know, pretty much everyone did, but then it's just a matter of knowing when it's going to pop. Pop!
They must have been drunk. Now maybe they really said that people were overextended and any rise in interest rates would threaten their buying power, reducing the prospective pool of buyers within upper purchase brackets...but that interest rates were too low? They wouldn't have said something dumb like that.
Ignoring the Bill Gates thing, because you seem to have simply made that up (him being a rich guy and all...having been involved with Microsoft makes him an economics guru, right?), given that Gates has never been a financial prognosticator, and ignoring the interest rates are too low nonsense that reappears once again -- you do realize that Buffet makes his billions by *not* telling you what he's doing, right? That is his whole strategy, of trying to be ahead of the curve.
What's with people trying to politicize this? There are a lot of people gathering statistics and calculating the numbers, and many of them have an agenda to bring you bad news (that is their bread and butter). This continued insistence that it's all a Bush administration dupe is just bizarre.
I almost think that the incredible amount of negative information, and the subduing of relatively good information, is actually a bit cathartic for the economy -- everyone is getting all of their bad vibes out while the economy idles along quite fine, and will be psychologically ready for the next grown bubble.