Uh, your analogy has no bearing on cars whatsoever. A layman cannot drive a model airplane that accelerates faster than an F550. Nor would he want to I'm sure. Whenever you say "electric car" to the layman, they say "slow, ugly, tiny" because all incarnations of such cars had those exact characteristics. One problem has been nailed down(not that it wasn't possible before, it just wasn't a priority). Now it's possible for car enthusiasts to start gossiping and drooling over electric which is a first step: it gets publicity and attention.
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it merely moves the pollution elsewhere, in this case to power stations and the venting that takes place there
A common argument. But what you fail to realize is that power stations are very energy efficient when compared to cars. Just in terms of the added efficiency benefits, it's worth it. That's not even taking into account all the time, energy and money drilling for oil, refining it, transporting to every station in the world, pumping it, and on and on.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
No, reasoning is not learning from accidents, but alot of learning is based on accidents(ie. serendipity). Most of the learning you do when you're first born is based on accidents; poking, probing and seeing what happens. You don't yet have the faculties to reason anything out.
The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny..."
~ Isaac Asimov ~
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Can we say that the insect is not self aware? How about a simple rectile?
No, I don't think my rectum is self aware, though sometimes it seems like it has a mind of it's own because it doesn't do what I want it to... "I said out dammnit!" Oh! you meant reptile!;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Why is the stupid idea that randomness is required for life so common among ordinary people? Are people so dumb that they can't distinguish between randomness (indeterminacy) and practical unpredictability?
Exactly! Life is chaotic(physics def'n), not random.;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
The more factors being brought in to generate the random number, the more random it becomes.
Not necessarily. You should revise that statement and say, "The more random factors being brought in to generate the random number, the more random it becomes." If you start including non random factors, then the randomness does not increase or decrease.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Yes. Not at our level of thought, but thought nonetheless.
Ameobas, paramesiaum
Yes, they can intelligently adapt to an enironment.
Do viruses count as thinking life
A virus is usually not considered alive AFAIK. It exhibits few of the traits of life since it has no facilities for reproducing itself and exhibits little behaviour and adaptability... they just float along until they run into a cell. So virii don't count in this discussion.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Why waste your bandwidth when you don't need to? Even over my DSL line, X is somewhat sluggish. If I could get a 60:1 compression ratio(which is even modest according to their website), that would be amazing.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
But that was with a pretty heavy load though... C++ coding, e-mail and webbrowsing all at once. They also said it attained a modest 60:1 compression ratio in that case. The max is 400:1. Not to shabby IMO.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I was just browsing many comments and came across two projects which may be of interest to this effort in Worldforge: Verse and Gel3d
They are both "frameworks for enabling multi-user three-dimensional worlds" based on different protocols. Verse is client-server(written in C), Gel3d is peer-to-peer(written in C++).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I wouldn't even warn anyone with a sign... Just watch them run towards me as they enter my realm and watch what they do as the mood music changes and they realize something big has changed... hehehe...;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
The distributed server thing ala peer-2-peer for online playing is a great idea! Have each server be a land or portion of a land and you must pass through some kind of gate to move to the next server or perhaps cross some mountains, or take a boat ride, or enter some caves etc. Theoretically, each different scenario could be on a different server. This would alleviate bandwidth problems and it would be completely transparent game play that would let a player migrate between the servers. That sounds so cool.:-)
Then because everything is open source, you could theoretically set up your own game server at home and create your own land with a HUGE castle, and let only those you want in(ie. you could give them a password in the game when you meet them or something). Then you could link your server to others via a bridge, boat, tunnel, etc.(see previous for more ways to migrate between servers). Then I can lure unsuspecting pursuers or enemies into my land and have my own demon horde slaughter them while I turn into an invincible god! "Muhahaha! This is my turf infidels!! I am god here!" I shall scream as I roast all would be slayers with the gouts of flames shooting out my nostrils. That's not cheating though! They invaded my land! And what business did they have chasing me and shooting arrows at me like that? Well, ya I guess I did steal their stash of diamonds, but it was just sitting there! Alright so maybe not, but hey, it's every man for himself in this world.;-)
Now tell me that doesn't sound cool.;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
At least there are Free Software implementations of both p2p and C/S. Are the fundamental structures of both projects similar? Could there be any collaboration? I'm in the process of reading about both projects now...
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
To be honest, I don't think the pig-latin thing is very good way of doing this. Better at the least to Rot13... at least it sounds like some impressive encryption. For extra protection because of more difficult decryption, better make it Rot1.;-) I don't think the judge would be very impressed to hear case on the "illegal distribution of etallicaMay";-)
Also, a search on Napster only returns some files from your list(whatever matches the query). I'd imagine the RIAA would want to know ALL the files you're sharing. For that they'd have to 'browse user'. That could be construed as violating "your distribution terms" as I previously described. So despite the fact that Napster makes no discrimination, you should be able to(unless there's something against that in a Napster EULA for using the service in which case yours is invalid).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
No, not effective protection mechanism, but a mechanism that effectively protects. Look at previous comments. Someone clearly explained the difference the DMCA makes. The "protection mechanism" just has to be there, it just has to exist to protect access, it doesn't have to be good/effective(the way you were using it).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Purely functional works are not protected? What about Operating Systems? They have a creative element to them, but I think it's obvious they are far more functional than creative(especially Linux since it borrows advances and great ideas from other operating systems). So does that mean Windows is public domain? I think you'll have to clarify your point.
And I believe the distinction people were making is that the filelist/playlist is copyrighted, not the filename(which would be really stupid). Since the filelist is personal(music you have purchased), you can provide it on whatever terms you see fit, such as "you can read/'decrypt' this playlist as long as you do not work for the RIAA". Since you 'encrypted' this work to take 'anti-circumvention' measures against RIAA employees(or those representing them), if they 'decrypt' it to see what songs are on it they would violate the DMCA. That's what I've gathered from the discussion so far.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
$38 mill total huh? I bet that much money could fund an online music business if the RIAA could take their head out of their collective asses long enough to see the possibilities.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I don't think people will do that because,
a) they don't know such music exists,
b) they wouldn't know where to find it if they did,
c) the genereal populace doesn't like music that they haven't been told they like by extensive marketing campaigns.
Which isn't to say I wouldn't love for this to happen.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
If they could base a boot manager similar to GRUB off LinuxBIOS, then we'd instantly have a booter capable of reading a huge slew of partition types and filesystems. Currently GRUB only supports 4 filesystems IIRC.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
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Uh, your analogy has no bearing on cars whatsoever. A layman cannot drive a model airplane that accelerates faster than an F550. Nor would he want to I'm sure. Whenever you say "electric car" to the layman, they say "slow, ugly, tiny" because all incarnations of such cars had those exact characteristics. One problem has been nailed down(not that it wasn't possible before, it just wasn't a priority). Now it's possible for car enthusiasts to start gossiping and drooling over electric which is a first step: it gets publicity and attention.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
it merely moves the pollution elsewhere, in this case to power stations and the venting that takes place there
A common argument. But what you fail to realize is that power stations are very energy efficient when compared to cars. Just in terms of the added efficiency benefits, it's worth it. That's not even taking into account all the time, energy and money drilling for oil, refining it, transporting to every station in the world, pumping it, and on and on.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
But what's important if you want electric do become widespread is impressing the layman... beating out an F550 does just that. ;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Can we say that the insect is not self aware? How about a simple rectile?
;-)
No, I don't think my rectum is self aware, though sometimes it seems like it has a mind of it's own because it doesn't do what I want it to... "I said out dammnit!" Oh! you meant reptile!
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Why is the stupid idea that randomness is required for life so common among ordinary people? Are people so dumb that they can't distinguish between randomness (indeterminacy) and practical unpredictability?
;-)
Exactly! Life is chaotic(physics def'n), not random.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
since no one had access to the the initial conditions(or the model of the system for that matter), it was effectively random.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
The more factors being brought in to generate the random number, the more random it becomes.
Not necessarily. You should revise that statement and say, "The more random factors being brought in to generate the random number, the more random it becomes." If you start including non random factors, then the randomness does not increase or decrease.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
are all animals capable of thought
Yes. Not at our level of thought, but thought nonetheless.
Ameobas, paramesiaum
Yes, they can intelligently adapt to an enironment.
Do viruses count as thinking life
A virus is usually not considered alive AFAIK. It exhibits few of the traits of life since it has no facilities for reproducing itself and exhibits little behaviour and adaptability... they just float along until they run into a cell. So virii don't count in this discussion.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
There are differing levels of intelligence.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Obviously the ones that did survive are the ones that have some brains. ;-)
"Hang on a second, exactly why am I jumping off a cliff again?
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Why waste your bandwidth when you don't need to? Even over my DSL line, X is somewhat sluggish. If I could get a 60:1 compression ratio(which is even modest according to their website), that would be amazing.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
But that was with a pretty heavy load though... C++ coding, e-mail and webbrowsing all at once. They also said it attained a modest 60:1 compression ratio in that case. The max is 400:1. Not to shabby IMO.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I was just browsing many comments and came across two projects which may be of interest to this effort in Worldforge: Verse and Gel3d
They are both "frameworks for enabling multi-user three-dimensional worlds" based on different protocols. Verse is client-server(written in C), Gel3d is peer-to-peer(written in C++).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I wouldn't even warn anyone with a sign... Just watch them run towards me as they enter my realm and watch what they do as the mood music changes and they realize something big has changed... hehehe... ;-)
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
The distributed server thing ala peer-2-peer for online playing is a great idea! Have each server be a land or portion of a land and you must pass through some kind of gate to move to the next server or perhaps cross some mountains, or take a boat ride, or enter some caves etc. Theoretically, each different scenario could be on a different server. This would alleviate bandwidth problems and it would be completely transparent game play that would let a player migrate between the servers. That sounds so cool. :-)
;-)
;-)
Then because everything is open source, you could theoretically set up your own game server at home and create your own land with a HUGE castle, and let only those you want in(ie. you could give them a password in the game when you meet them or something). Then you could link your server to others via a bridge, boat, tunnel, etc.(see previous for more ways to migrate between servers). Then I can lure unsuspecting pursuers or enemies into my land and have my own demon horde slaughter them while I turn into an invincible god! "Muhahaha! This is my turf infidels!! I am god here!" I shall scream as I roast all would be slayers with the gouts of flames shooting out my nostrils. That's not cheating though! They invaded my land! And what business did they have chasing me and shooting arrows at me like that? Well, ya I guess I did steal their stash of diamonds, but it was just sitting there! Alright so maybe not, but hey, it's every man for himself in this world.
Now tell me that doesn't sound cool.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
At least there are Free Software implementations of both p2p and C/S. Are the fundamental structures of both projects similar? Could there be any collaboration? I'm in the process of reading about both projects now...
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
To be honest, I don't think the pig-latin thing is very good way of doing this. Better at the least to Rot13... at least it sounds like some impressive encryption. For extra protection because of more difficult decryption, better make it Rot1. ;-) I don't think the judge would be very impressed to hear case on the "illegal distribution of etallicaMay" ;-)
Also, a search on Napster only returns some files from your list(whatever matches the query). I'd imagine the RIAA would want to know ALL the files you're sharing. For that they'd have to 'browse user'. That could be construed as violating "your distribution terms" as I previously described. So despite the fact that Napster makes no discrimination, you should be able to(unless there's something against that in a Napster EULA for using the service in which case yours is invalid).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
No, not effective protection mechanism, but a mechanism that effectively protects. Look at previous comments. Someone clearly explained the difference the DMCA makes. The "protection mechanism" just has to be there, it just has to exist to protect access, it doesn't have to be good/effective(the way you were using it).
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Purely functional works are not protected? What about Operating Systems? They have a creative element to them, but I think it's obvious they are far more functional than creative(especially Linux since it borrows advances and great ideas from other operating systems). So does that mean Windows is public domain? I think you'll have to clarify your point.
And I believe the distinction people were making is that the filelist/playlist is copyrighted, not the filename(which would be really stupid). Since the filelist is personal(music you have purchased), you can provide it on whatever terms you see fit, such as "you can read/'decrypt' this playlist as long as you do not work for the RIAA". Since you 'encrypted' this work to take 'anti-circumvention' measures against RIAA employees(or those representing them), if they 'decrypt' it to see what songs are on it they would violate the DMCA. That's what I've gathered from the discussion so far.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
$38 mill total huh? I bet that much money could fund an online music business if the RIAA could take their head out of their collective asses long enough to see the possibilities.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
I don't think people will do that because,
a) they don't know such music exists,
b) they wouldn't know where to find it if they did,
c) the genereal populace doesn't like music that they haven't been told they like by extensive marketing campaigns.
Which isn't to say I wouldn't love for this to happen.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
Yes exactly what I said. There is a difference between m and M, but not between k and K.
k = kilo = 1000
K = uhhh...well, kilo = 1000
See? Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying...
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
It doesn't matter. There is no difference between K and k, like there is between m and M.
He is correct.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"
If they could base a boot manager similar to GRUB off LinuxBIOS, then we'd instantly have a booter capable of reading a huge slew of partition types and filesystems. Currently GRUB only supports 4 filesystems IIRC.
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"People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them"